Vic Lidia Thorpe: Not the subject for every thread!

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Seeing as Lidia discussion is cropping up across multiple threads, let's have us a thread for people who want to discuss her contribution to Australian politics.

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Enlighten me. I am assuming you can bring up things she has done for the people that have voted for her?
You can watch the whole thing:



It's from a year ago but it is relevant to your understanding.

Or skip to this bit at 10:00 for a couple of minutes for "Mabo panic-fantasy" and Lydia's rejection of the manufactured headlines.

Or skip to 11:30 for a statement on why she is in parliament and the right-wing pollies who hate her very presence.

About 12:20 - "I do want peace. I do want to bring this nation together, but that involves hard truths."

Background for your imminent understanding around probably the most notorious smears from a year ago:

About 13:30 - discussion of the "black woman being told to behave".
About 14:30 - Rejection of the story of "telling people they are being racist"

About 15:50 - Standing up against racism and any from of discrimination, as a part of her job in parliament.

Note that if this was a white person shouting about what they believe is bad treatment of white people, they would be applauded. See: Farage in the UK. Hanson in Australia. Whether or not those people's gripes are sincere or legitimate, they get praise for "standing up for the little people". And reap the not insubstantial benefits.


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Imagine the response if that was Lidia Thorpe in front of a plane with her face on it.

Just imagine.


About 17:00 - Note minor coverage of activism against right-wing transphobe "Posey Parker" with PAULINE ****ING HANSON in the background lapping up KJK's hatred. Just drinking the hate in and counting her money.

Then Lidia talks about the traditional owners of that land agreeing with Thorpe's actions on that day. Lidia working for the people, and getting physically tackled while protesting. Hanson would be screeching like a banshee if anyone dared touch her during any of her dumb money-making stunts.

Hanson has actually BEEN CONVICTED OF CRIMES unlike Lidia Thorpe.

About 21:00 or so, coverage of another "incident" that the media lapped up. The COPS put Lidia on the ground as she tried to catch up to her spot on the parade. Cops pursued her and she refused to go with police until a female officer could attend. This was sorted out and Lydia was NOT kicked out of the parade. NOT told to leave by police. Then ambushed at the end by cops again, until she said "I am a senator" when they backed off. Cops don't seem to respect people unless the cops feel that that person has some political power.

So I hope that brings you up to speed with a couple of impressions you may have gained of Lidia Thorpe. What about her work?

28:00 or so, working with refugee activists to protect them from police brutality and abuse of crowd control tools i.e. pepper spraying people directly in their eyes - and being assaulted by police in the process.

31:00 or so, discussing the daily racist remarks in the chambers and talking to the president of the chamber about how to respond and call it out.

Following on, discussion of work on getting the Australian government to abide by UN treaties and declarations. Inquiry recommendations to save lives.

All of these things are work on behalf of the - I note your qualification - people who voted for her.

Regarding that, do you think that politicians only work on behalf of the individuals who voted for them, and nobody else?

35:00 or so, discussion of politics and values that fuel her actions.

37:00 or so, get into detail on more work in parliament.

38:30 or so, committee work on sole parent support and child care support, and as a part of that showing empathy and respect to people who made submissions.

40:00 Work on the concussion in sport Senate inquiry. Yes, that was Lidia Thorpe protecting sports people by helping get that enquiry up - looking after kids through to professionals.



You would not have heard about that, because the media needs Lidia to be the bad lady.

41:00 or so, working on amendments to bills so people in communities get input into government decisions that affect them.

Provision of advice on many bills, a lot of which was accepted and put into action - including the literal $5 bill :)

Keep watching that video for more info. I haven't got time to re-watch it all right now.

You wanted to know, here is your chance to dip in for a few minutes and find out. Just a few minutes. You will be well rewarded.
 
In interviews with the ABC and Channel Nine, Senator Thorpe said she wished they had been more concerned about racism in the chamber.

"They are quick to punish the black woman here all the time for calling it out, but I am responding to racism, and that is what they need to focus on," Senator Thorpe said.

"It's been a horrible week, and when you're subjected to racism … I stand up against it. I ripped up a piece of paper," she told Channel Nine.

"Senator Hanson is a 'convicted' racist, she has worn a burqa in the chamber, she baits me regularly with racial taunts."

Earlier this month Senator Hanson was ruled to have racially vilified Greens senator Mehreen Faruqi in a tweet where she told the senator to "piss off back to Pakistan".


Senator Hanson said in a statement the institution of parliament had been disrespected.

What a ****ing laugh.

Payman uses Senate to accuse Hanson of racism



Photo shows Fatima Payman
Fatima Payman

Fatima Payman accuses Pauline Hanson of racism in the chamber, before being forced to withdraw the remark, after the One Nation senator raises questions about her eligibility to sit in the Senate.
 
So Lidia ripped some paper up? It's not a big deal unless she followed through with a Haka. Or chucked a pretend spear.

But l don't want to give her any ideas.

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She actually threw the paper at Hansen after ripping it up which is a breach of standards in any work place and 9/10 see the person sacked…

Will be interesting to see her speaking through gritted teeth now she has been served with a notice to make an apology by Hansons solicitor for spreading mistruths on national television.




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She actually threw the paper at Hansen after ripping it up which is a breach of standards in any work place and 9/10 see the person sacked…
So will racist comments. Don't see that happening in parliament.
 
Will be interesting to see her speaking through gritted teeth now she has been served with a notice to make an apology by Hansons solicitor for spreading mistruths on national television.
That's just the revenge you want for .. whatever she did that upset you.
 
I don't have any respect when politicians dump the party that got them in
Incredibly cynical and self serving
That's not what you said though.

She also stuck to her pre election position and the greens didn't

Much like Payman and Labor where Payman supported the ALP policy position and the caucas didn't.

Regardless of that neither of them broke any laws and the constitution is responsible for them still being senators

But I do find the fact you don't think a woman who stuck to her principles in politics deserves respect interesting
 
That's not what you said though.

She also stuck to her pre election position and the greens didn't

Much like Payman and Labor where Payman supported the ALP policy position and the caucas didn't.

Regardless of that neither of them broke any laws and the constitution is responsible for them still being senators

But I do find the fact you don't think a woman who stuck to her principles in politics deserves respect interesting
If these principles meant so much to her she should have resigned

The reality is she only got into the Senate on a Greens ticket that she abandoned a few months down the track.

Which she knew full well.
 

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If these principles meant so much to her she should have resigned
Right so if people in politics have principles they should resign
Gee what an opinion
The reality is she only got into the Senate on a Greens ticket that she abandoned a few months down the track.
2.5 years but I'm pretty sure I've told you that before and I'm pretty sure you'll ignore it again next time.
She was a greens senate from September 2020
Which she knew full well.
Again she held to the position the greens went to the election with, the party didn't

Yet you think she should resign for the party walking away from an election promise

Again this anger you've been holding onto for almost 2 years now, is it because you voted greens in the senate?
 
Right so if people in politics have principles they should resign
Gee what an opinion

2.5 years but I'm pretty sure I've told you that before and I'm pretty sure you'll ignore it again next time.
She was a greens senate from September 2020

Again she held to the position the greens went to the election with, the party didn't

Yet you think she should resign for the party walking away from an election promise

Again this anger you've been holding onto for almost 2 years now, is it because you voted greens in the senate?
Anger? Greens vote?

No she's just another self indulgent politician who sacked the party that people voted for. They simply didn't vote for her

She's in the Kelly et al class.
I genuinely don't care about these shysters politics. It's the **** you to the electorate that rankles
 
Anger? Greens vote?

No she's just another self indulgent politician who sacked the party that people voted for. They simply didn't vote for her

She's in the Kelly et al class.
I genuinely don't care about these shysters politics. It's the **** you to the electorate that rankles
Did you vote for the greens in the senate or are you angry on behalf of others
 
No I didn't as I said the politics of the sides doesn't bother me
That's a problem
You're fine with party politics but not individual politics
Parties don't have morals or principles, people do
I just feel Joe Schmuck didn't get what they voter for when they put the tick on the Greens
Do you?
Yes I do. Thorpe voted in line with and has continued to vote in line with greens policy that was taken to the election

She's been consistent with her words prior to the election and you think that is deserving of outrage and ridicule but give the party that wasn't a pass

It's just barracking for teams
 
That's a problem
You're fine with party politics but not individual politics
Parties don't have morals or principles, people do

Yes I do. Thorpe voted in line with and has continued to vote in line with greens policy that was taken to the election

She's been consistent with her words prior to the election and you think that is deserving of outrage and ridicule but give the party that wasn't a pass

It's just barracking for teams
But it's not what they voted for
They voted for the Greens

Anyway we disagree
 

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