Traded Lloyd Meek - [Traded with F2 (Dogs) to Hawthorn for Jaeger O'Meara and F4]

[Kanye West]

Yea, I’ve heard that a few times today.

“Traded our O’meara for nothing…”.

Poor Lloyd.

Lloyd is going to blow you young Hawketts away, I honestly rate him that high!

 

[hawkman]

19 was for 3 years of full salary. How much of the 4 years are Hawks paying ?

He had only 1 year left. Hawthorn couldn't pay more than what was left on his contract

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Lloyd is going to blow you young Hawketts away, I honestly rate him that high!

I’ve liked all that I’ve seen of him, since I was first told we were sniffing around him a while back.
I think he and Reeves have the scope to be a genuine topline ruck combo.

 

[HairyO]

He had only 1 year left. Hawthorn couldn't pay more than what was left on his contract

Im sure anything can be done. Like us extending him to 3 years and then trading and paying.

The actual contracts dont have to be signed by the end of trade week, just the paperwork for the agreements.

 

[Spook]

Ideally Hawthorn would manufacture a F2 from an expected 'good' team, or a F3 from an expected 'poor' team in 2023.

Would give them something in the 30->40 range.

In the end they accepted a 4th round Circa 62

 

[rgauci]

In the end they accepted a 4th round Circa 62

GWS offered pick 19 for Jaegar.

Pick 19 = 948 points = Jaegar.

Projecting futures (assuming the same ladder position):
Haw 4th = pick 69 = 67 points
WBu 2nd = pick 30 = 629 points

Points:
948 (JOM) + 67 (F4) = Meek + 629 (F2)

Values Meek at 386 points. Pick 42/43.

Should Hawthorn slide, and Western Bulldogs rise. That would make Meek around pick 30 in value.

QED

 

[hawkmang]

GWS offered pick 19 for Jaegar.

Pick 19 = 948 points = Jaegar.

Projecting futures (assuming the same ladder position):
Haw 4th = pick 69 = 67 points
WBu 2nd = pick 30 = 629 points

Points:
948 (JOM) + 67 (F4) = Meek + 629 (F2)

Values Meek at 386 points. Pick 42/43.

Should Hawthorn slide, and Western Bulldogs rise. That would make Meek around pick 30 in value.

QED

Decent analysis, I think the trade was actually very fair and probably favoured us a little bit. Most commentators for some reason have only focussed on the picks attached in return and completely disregarded the players we’ve got back. Same with the Tom Mitchell deal.

 

[rgauci]

Decent analysis, I think the trade was actually very fair and probably favoured us a little bit. Most commentators for some reason have only focussed on the picks attached in return and completely disregarded the players we’ve got back. Same with the Tom Mitchell deal.

People forget you got Amon for free. He won a fair few brownlow votes this year.

 

[WilloTree]

Won't happen.

oops

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

oops

We took 24 to the draft and traded up with it.
What are you ‘oopsing’ about?

 

[TylerDurden]

We took 24 to the draft and traded up with it.
What are you ‘oopsing’ about?

End result was pick 18 and Weddle. 2 firsts in that draft in the end was our plan.

 

[WilloTree]

Hawks would be insane to be moving on 24

"Won't happen."

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

"Won't happen."

Didn’t happen. Weird bump.

 

[WilloTree]

Didn’t happen. Weird bump.

Hawks didn't trade the pick?

p.s. you know what a 'bump' is yeah?

 

[Slysh]

"Won't happen."

Are you okay?

 

[WilloTree]

Are you okay?

Wont happen
Did happen
made a cheeky comment

Won't be doing that again. Seem to have upset you.

 

[Slysh]

Wont happen
Did happen
made a cheeky comment

Won't be doing that again. Seem to have upset you.

I say we would be insane to move it for Meek, we didn't and months later you quote the comment? Odd

 

[WilloTree]

I say we would be insane to move it for Meek, we didn't and months later you quote the comment? Odd

Don't be offended. Was just having a bit of fun. Have a Pepsi.

 

[Slysh]

Don't be offended. Was just having a bit of fun. Have a Pepsi.

I'm not offended, was genuinely confused

 

[WilloTree]

I'm not offended, was genuinely confused

oh ok.

wont happen
did happen
made a cheeky comment
you got upset

hope this helps.

 

[Slysh]

oh ok.

wont happen
did happen
made a cheeky comment
you got upset

hope this helps.

Oh you mean you took comments out of context

Made an unfunny joke

No one got upset?

Thanks I have caught up

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Hawks didn't trade the pick?

p.s. you know what a 'bump' is yeah?

The “wont happen” comment was clearly about trading pick 24 for Meek, and we did not trade it.

How can you not understand the context?

 

[freo_leo29]

The Lord has well and truly arrived


You guys absolutely bent us over for this one, we got a crippled Jaegar who we only play because he got 4 years (sunk cost fallacy in play) and you got a genuine gun ruckman + the upgrade in picks


The F2 ended up helping our for Ginnivan too right? Massive Massive trade for the Hawks

 

[Books]

The Lord has well and truly arrived


You guys absolutely bent us over for this one, we got a crippled Jaegar who we only play because he got 4 years (sunk cost fallacy in play) and you got a genuine gun ruckman + the upgrade in picks


The F2 ended up helping our for Ginnivan too right? Massive Massive trade for the Hawks

Yes thanks, it has worked out well for us.
We always had high hopes for Meek and he has been even better than expected.
Personally, I would like to see Jaegar perform well for you, but it seems like the poor bloke has had too many injuries.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Sucks for Jaeger, he was one we probably didn’t really want to leave but when he got interest from the Giants(at Cogs wedding) and then Freo decided to act you couldn’t blame him for wanting to go home.