Coach Luke Beveridge & the Dogs - is his time up? Where are they at?

[My Tilly]

Its probably where they will still finish.



Who is Williams? Bailey Williams?

Take Smith and now Libba out of that and its very shallow. Especially with Macrae no where near his form of 2 or 3 years ago. He had a few very poor efforts highlighted late in that game.

Bontempelli's game was fantastic yesterday again. 26 and 2 goals. Most contested possessions, most score involvements. Took that huge mark and goal to turn the momentum but he cant do it alone. Im sure Sanders will come back in now.

Hence why their senior players are letting them down.
Macrae & English are not the same players this year. Treloar has been solid but yes, now without Libba, they have fallen back to the pack when it comes to midfield quality.
Also, there's no genuine explosive midfielder among that group. Every premiership contender has at least one midfielder who can give you run and carry from a stoppage. Daicos/de Goey, Dangerfield, Heeney, Callaghan, Petracca. Bontempelli is a lot closer to Tom Green as in more grunt opposed to acceleration.

 

[Kobe Gryant]

Not pick the same guys and expect different results would be one?

Not leave your best player on the bench twidling his thumb for 2/3 of the last quarter in back to back games...if Bont needs a rest put him FWD...he'd kick it better than JUH anyway!

Then we have the structure...Carlton smalls are bad...well the Dogs ones are worse! The fact that Vandermeer is their small says it all

In fairness, Weightman when fit is better than any of Carlton's smalls.

Their small forward situation looks far more dire than it actually is with him out of the side.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

In fairness, Weightman when fit is better than any of Carlton's smalls.

Their small forward situation looks far more dire than it actually is with him out of the side.

Not sure I’d classify Weightman as a true small anyway he’s a marking type. It does show just how dire the depth is there nowadays you cannot not have at least 2 and closer to 4 good small options up there

 

[TheBont]

I've personally checked out. It sucked seeing Libba get hit in the head early, then get cut open. Bleeds for the club. To be honest, seeing that was way worse than seeing Hawks pants us for the 2nd year in a row.

Until the club starts giving a s**t about the supporters, they won't be getting a cent off me. I won't be attending any games. It's beyond a joke now. Waste of a season.

Didn’t renew my membership this season myself and got scoffed at by bullies on the western bulldogs bf section. Stop giving these guys money and they’ll start listening ffs

 

[adock]

Not sure I’d classify Weightman as a true small anyway he’s a marking type. It does show just how dire the depth is there nowadays you cannot not have at least 2 and closer to 4 good small options up there

Weightman is a jet, he walks into any side as a small forward. Sure he can take speccy but his crumbing skills are elite.

 

[adock]

Macrae & English are not the same players this year.

Macrae hasnt been the same for a few years. English is still playing good footy, he became the scapegoat for the loss against Essendon for whatever reason.

He has never been a great tap ruckman, he is playing the same brand of football he did last year and regularly hits the scoreboard.

 

[My Tilly]

Macrae hasnt been the same for a few years. English is still playing good footy, he became the scapegoat for the loss against Essendon for whatever reason.

He has never been a great tap ruckman, he is playing the same brand of football he did last year and regularly hits the scoreboard.

Macrae was still averaging 25 disposals & 4 clearances last season. He's well down in those categories. It's not like we are talking about a player 32 years of age. He's 29 and completely fallen off the cliff.

English has been beaten on a few occasions already. Rarely lowers his colors to opposing rucks. I thought he was poor on the weekend despite racking up 19 disposals and 2 goals. Was well beaten by Meek who asserted his influence on the inside of the contest.
English looks like a player in the motions. Checking out as he looks to head back home to WA.

 

[Cut the Carp]

Far too many spuds on the dogs list, all the talk about them having a Premiership list is bizarre. Certain players get rated too highly as well, Liam Jones

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Liam Jones

Age

33

Ht

199cm

Wt

98kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.4

2star

K

6.5

3star

HB

2.9

3star

M

4.3

4star

T

2.0

4star

MG

134.5

2star

D

7.6

2star

K

6.1

3star

HB

1.4

1star

M

4.1

4star

T

1.4

2star

MG

116.3

2star

D

9.4

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

2.0

2star

M

4.0

4star

T

2.2

4star

, Macrae, JJ etc.

Here is a list I have compiled that is very generous to some players, I would say you could rate a lot of them worse.

1. Tim English - A grade
2. Adam Treloar - B grade
3. Bailey Dale - A grade
4. M. Bontempelli - A+ grade
5. James Harmes - C Grade
6. Bailey Williams - C Grade
7. Jason Johannisen - C Grade
8. Ed Richards - B Grade
9. Jack Macrae - B Grade
10. Aaron Naughton - B Grade
11. Tom Liberatore - A Grade
12. Liam Jones - B Grade
13. Lachlan Bramble - D Grade
14. Sam Darcy - C Grade
15. Riley Garcia - D Grade
16. Buku Khamis - C Grade
17. L. Vandermeer* - D Grade
18. Harvey Gallagher - D Grade
19. Taylor Duryea - D Grade
20. Oskar Baker - D Grade
21. J. Ugle-Hagan - B Grade
22. Charlie Clarke - D Grade
23. James O'Donnell - D Grade

 

[Handsuper47]

He'll probably get the boot if the Tigers win next week.

 

[TaylorMade]

Far too many spuds on the dogs list, all the talk about them having a Premiership list is bizarre. Certain players get rated too highly as well, Liam Jones, Macrae, JJ etc.

Here is a list I have compiled that is very generous to some players, I would say you could rate a lot of them worse.

1. Tim English - A grade
2. Adam Treloar - B grade
3. Bailey Dale - A grade
4. M. Bontempelli - A+ grade
5. James Harmes - C Grade
6. Bailey Williams - C Grade
7. Jason Johannisen - C Grade
8. Ed Richards - B Grade
9. Jack Macrae - B Grade
10. Aaron Naughton - B Grade
11. Tom Liberatore - A Grade
12. Liam Jones - B Grade
13. Lachlan Bramble - D Grade
14. Sam Darcy - C Grade
15. Riley Garcia - D Grade
16. Buku Khamis - C Grade
17. L. Vandermeer* - D Grade
18. Harvey Gallagher - D Grade
19. Taylor Duryea - D Grade
20. Oskar Baker - D Grade
21. J. Ugle-Hagan - B Grade
22. Charlie Clarke - D Grade
23. James O'Donnell - D Grade

That is an awful set of talls - I don't care which ones you put forward or back you are going to struggle to win games with that. It explains some of the strange selection and match day decisions by Bevo as he tries to devise a strategy to win a game of football with what he's got.

 

[faible]

Macrae was still averaging 25 disposals & 4 clearances last season. He's well down in those categories. It's not like we are talking about a player 32 years of age. He's 29 and completely fallen off the cliff.

English has been beaten on a few occasions already. Rarely lowers his colors to opposing rucks. I thought he was poor on the weekend despite racking up 19 disposals and 2 goals. Was well beaten by Meek who asserted his influence on the inside of the contest.
English looks like a player in the motions. Checking out as he looks to head back home to WA.

Macrae has been jerked around by Bevo for a while now. He's an AA midfielder. Play him in the midfield, or trade him.

If he was playing full-time midfield, he'd be fine. I reckon a few clubs should be asking the question of his management.

 

[MagpieJo]

Why would the coach be giving that directive?
You think he's sitting there watching slow mo replays of every collision?

Our medical team should have serious questions asked, but that's irrelevant to the coach

I hear that bridge next to your training ground isstill for sale.

He was clearly dazed, he should have been off immediately, blindfreddie could see that!

Let’s not forget it’s not the first time

 

[Taper]

Didn’t renew my membership this season myself and got scoffed at by bullies on the western bulldogs bf section. Stop giving these guys money and they’ll start listening ffs

Beveridge is guaranteed to be sacked before Hinkley if that's any consolation.
This is the third consecutive year of mid table mediocrity at the Bulldogs, and I can easily see a drop of at least 5000 members next year if Beveridge is still there.

 

[lizard man]

Beveridge is a master coach ….. his critics in the media come for him frequently and he swats them away every time

 

[HairyO]

Beveridge is guaranteed to be sacked before Hinkley if that's any consolation.
This is the third consecutive year of mid table mediocrity at the Bulldogs, and I can easily see a drop of at least 5000 members next year if Beveridge is still there.

Still time to edit your post.

 

[Greasyrhys]

Can’t sack Bevo with that result, even if kornes continues banging on his drums.

 

[HTPunter]

Sam Darcy going to make Naughton & JUH overpaid by making them 2nd & 3rd options lol. One of the latter will struggle to kick 30 goals a year just due to supply whilst being on a million bucks. Crazy how good Darcy is going to be (and already is). Also an able 2nd ruck.

Edit: wrong Doggies thread but to make it relevant - he may also just save Bevos job

 

[Juddernaut08]

well done bevo

 

[WillHayward]

The comeback kid.

Monica Lewinsky scandal can't be far away

 

[Schnitzengruben]

Mark Neeld would've won that game if he had Bont playing the way he did

 

[Cadillac]

Sam Darcy going to make Naughton & JUH overpaid by making them 2nd & 3rd options lol. One of the latter will struggle to kick 30 goals a year just due to supply whilst being on a million bucks. Crazy how good Darcy is going to be (and already is). Also an able 2nd ruck.

Edit: wrong Doggies thread but to make it relevant - he may also just save Bevos job

Just praise the lord for NGA and the Father son rule. Would have hated to have seen what would have happened to JUH and Darcy’s careers if they’d have ended up at North.

 

[Taper]

Beveridge is a master coach ….. his critics in the media come for him frequently and he swats them away every time

Mediocre coach who's made Eric Hipwood look like peak Lance Franklin tonight.

 

[WillHayward]

Beveridge is a master coach ….. his critics in the media come for him frequently and he swats them away every time

Which is why they are 12th?

 

[lizard man]

Mediocre coach who's made Eric Hipwood look like peak Lance Franklin tonight.

He’s a good coach they just had a bad night

 

[lizard man]

Which is why they are 12th?

They will still play finals