MacGill or Hogg

Who should get the spinners role for the first test at the Gabba?

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  • Hogg

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Who should play in ther first test at the Gabba. Hoggy is in great form and is the better batsman and fielder but surely MacGill deserves first crack at it given his performances over the last decade or so.
 
hate macgill and hogg is in better form so u have to go with him.
Macgill is overrated, he wont get near the wickets he used to when bowling in tandem with mcgrath or warne because they would keep one end tight for him. Batesman used to target macgill because they couldnt get runs off warne or macgrath. I reackon 33% of macgill's wickets have come off out field catches caught of full tosses or half trackers, mark my words with out mcgrath or warne he will struggle. Btw Hogg isnt up to test standard either, i like dan cullen better.
 

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CaptainDavey said:
Hogg.

Can bat, offers more enthusiasm in the field than MacGill and isn't a weirdo w***er off the field.

But MacGill IS a good bowler no doubt...
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I agree.:thumbsu:
 
CaptainDavey said:
Hogg.

Can bat, offers more enthusiasm in the field than MacGill and isn't a weirdo w***er off the field.

But MacGill IS a good bowler no doubt...
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Batting shud have nethin to do with it, its who can take the most wickets. Macgill is that person, has a great test record and is proven at test level.
 
Hogg for sure. He is in teriffic form at the moment. He fields and bats much better than macgill, and would be a much more stablizing influence on the side as oppossed to Macgill. Whilst Macgill is a good spinner, he is to self obsessed and never thinks about his team mates.
 
lethalselbow said:
Those that pick a player with good one day form are morons. Stick to watching AFL.

Sure Hogg is good at taking wickets in one day matches, but he's cannon fodder in the real game.

MacGill by a mile!
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So you think accepting Andrew Symonds was a mistake?
 
lethalselbow said:
Not sure what you mean... Can you elaborate a little?
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Andrew Symonds was largely selected for his one day (all round) brilliance and given more than a decent go in the test side before he came really good and now we haven't looked back. I understand where you were coming from in that they are different forms of cricket and require different kinds of players but I thought "Those that pick a player with good one day form are morons." was still a bit of a generalisation, some players can be good at both.
 
lethalselbow said:
Not sure what you mean... Can you elaborate a little?
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Well they gave him a spot in the Test team as a reward for his form in the One Dayers, sure it took him a little time to adjust but he's doing fine right now.

Besides bowling in the Test Matches isn't that much different than the ODI's, it's all about endurance. I think it was Terry Jenner that said you need patience to be a good Test Match bowler and then went onto say Hogg does not have enough for the longer form of the game, he may taught Warnie but that is just pure crap. If you have good endurance and just keep trying to get the batsman out then you'll eventually get your man. It's not like Hogg's going to go cry after an over because he couldn't get someone out and then say I don't want to bowl anymore, he's going to keep trying to get him out next over.

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Damn my thinking and slow typing.
 

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RandB said:
Andrew Symonds was largely selected for his one day (all round) brilliance and given more than a decent go in the test side before he came really good and now we haven't looked back. I understand where you were coming from in that they are different forms of cricket and require different kinds of players but I thought "Those that pick a player with good one day form are morons." was still a bit of a generalisation, some players can be good at both.
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Fair enough. I should have been slightly more specific.

Let me correct the record... Those that pick a spin bowler for good one day form are morons.

Hogg isn't a match winner. He doesn't turn the ball and has a test average that would be fantastic... if it were a batting average.
 
Plumped for Hoggy but realistically the Aussies need to try some new blood in the team. MacGill and Hogg are both short term solutions to a long term problem.
 
Only three other players have reached the 200 wicket mark quicker than Macgill. If not for Shane Warne he would have been a strike bowler for Australia ages ago. Just unlucky I say.
 
dee-molishon said:
hate macgill and hogg is in better form so u have to go with him.
Macgill is overrated, he wont get near the wickets he used to when bowling in tandem with mcgrath or warne because they would keep one end tight for him. Batesman used to target macgill because they couldnt get runs off warne or macgrath. I reackon 33% of macgill's wickets have come off out field catches caught of full tosses or half trackers, mark my words with out mcgrath or warne he will struggle. Btw Hogg isnt up to test standard either, i like dan cullen better.
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to the people who think macgill is good like u saj lol TOLD YA SO!!!:p:p
sangakarra really struggled with those different varities of full tosses he bowled didnt he??
 
lethalselbow said:
The 4th fastest wicket taker to 200 wickets in the History of cricket is allowed a day off. T'was a shocker though.
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Sorry mate but I still don't agree with the MacGill call. The guy has been waiting ages for a permanent slot and he finally gets the chance and he lets himself turn into a blimp and throws pies down the pitch. Hogg is in fine form and not many batsmen can pick his wrong'n.
 
RandB said:
Sorry mate but I still don't agree with the MacGill call. The guy has been waiting ages for a permanent slot and he finally gets the chance and he lets himself turn into a blimp and throws pies down the pitch. Hogg is in fine form and not many batsmen can pick his wrong'n.
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Hogg is a one-day specialist. The Indians would carve his test career into oblivion.

Blimpy boy still has a few tricks up his sleeve. :thumbsu:
 

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