Conspiracy Theory Mandates, Lockdowns, Covid-19, SARS-Cov-2 Thread - Get vaccinated.

[Wild Bill]

Well done Mal and Chief. You've succeeded in neutering this thread and once you've finished banning everyone who questions the narrative it will die and you can sleep soundly with your teddies, safe in the knowledge you've made the world a better place.

Meanwhile in the real world the protest numbers will continue to grow with people sick of being ignored. You'll wake up the day after the Federal election to find the Senate balance of power held by a collection of LD/UAP/ON, and can cry into whatever it is you drink and wonder why the hell no-one is listening to you.

This will be my last contribution to this thread.

lol what? The small minority protesting aren't living in the real world and their numbers are dwindling.

Its why Dan is a lock to win the election next year.

 

[Balls In]

Ask the Nazis.

WA Premier Mark McGowan says US white supremacists are targeting remote communities - ABC News

If the Nazi's are anti vaxxers and encouraging aboriginals to avoid the vax does that make them not racist anymore?

 

[Balls In]

Misleading title of the day from Perth Now;

"Anti-vax sentiment could cost economy $2.9b".

Of course when you read the article its about the 40,000 people who are set to lose their jobs due to the vax mandate. How about this title instead? "McGowans vax mandate could cost 40,000 jobs and $2.9b"

 

[zill]

If the Nazi's are anti vaxxers and encouraging aboriginal to avoid the vax does that make them not racist anymore?

They are pro-vax, they just don't want aboriginals to get the vaccine. So still racist, but not anti-vax.

 

[Balls In]

They are pro-vax, they just don't want aboriginals to get the vaccine. So still racist, but not anti-vax.

I can't keep up anymore. Last I heard it was these far righties who were anti vax and marching at the protests.

 

[Kurve]

I think your guess (and let's face it, that's all it is) might be off the mark.

I think you'll find that many Aboriginals are skeptical of claims from predominantly white bureaucrats and medical personnel about what is good for their health and why wouldn't they be? They've already witnessed the profound environmental damage that has been inflicted on their country in the last 233 years compared to their careful stewardship of the land over millennia.

I'd suggest that the strange circumstances around a string of false positive tests in one remote Kimberley community last year along with the sudden heart attack death of a prominent Aboriginal elder 6 days after receiving his second Pfizer jab in a televised ABC event which was supposed to encourage vaccination amongst the Aboriginal community and the censoring of virtually all commentary about the case since, might have played a large part. Whether the vaccine is ultimately proven to be directly attributable to his death or not, these events wouldn't have helped.

Your post reeks of desperation.

It wasn't a guess, I raised this back in an earlier thread and links were supplied to the media source where Indigenous persons were interviewed about vaccine hesitancy and why.

 

[No SPIN]

‘Leaky’ Vaccines Can Produce Stronger Versions of Viruses

‘Leaky’ Vaccines Can Produce Stronger Versions of Viruses

By studying chickens, researchers say they have proven the theory that more virulent viruses can evolve from so-called “leaky” vaccines.

www.healthline.com

Fake news according to the AUTHOR of the Mareks disease study Prof Andrew Read;


The anti Vaxxers claim the study proves a mechanism for COVID Vaccines to be leaky..

"Read told AFP that this comparison is "irresponsible."

'The study deals with chickens, not humans, and a herpes virus, not a coronavirus.

Covid involves very different vaccines and viruses, and the biological details matter," Read said.


Delta is spreading like wildfire in the non-vaccinated. Even if no one was vaccinated, Delta would be spreading rapidly. Choosing not to vaccinate puts people at risk of severe disease, irrespective of the variants," he said, referring to the highly infectious coronavirus variant behind a surge in cases.

"It is irresponsible for people to use hypothetical concerns... as a reason to withhold life-saving vaccines now," Read added."

Vaccinated people are not 'creating' coronavirus variants

Social media posts claim Covid-19 vaccines lead to virus mutations and say vaccinated people are responsible for variants, citing the case of a different disease that affects chickens as evidence. But experts say the analogy is flawed, and that vaccines reduce rather than enhance the risks posed...

factcheck.afp.com

 

[Ghost Patrol]

If the Nazi's are anti vaxxers and encouraging aboriginals to avoid the vax does that make them not racist anymore?

You Know Who Else Opposed Vaccine Mandates? Hitler.

Contrary to claims about “fascist” vaccine mandates currently circulating on the Right, the Nazis actually relaxed German vaccine mandates — and hoped doing the same for people they conquered would kill them faster.

jacobinmag.com

 

[backtozero]

I can't keep up anymore. Last I heard it was these far righties who were anti vax and marching at the protests.

Haven't you heard? The white supremacists are protesting because they don't want the vaccines for themselves because they don't think it works and they're going to DIE but the other white supremacists are targeting Aboriginal people to tell them not to take the vaccine because they know it works and they want them to DIE.

 

[Bumpswithagrin]

It’s got me where some people find the time.

It’s a near full time job bringing up the kids; helping them with their homework, playing, making dinner.

The you have your sport and fitness regime.

All the reading you need to do at work, and that’s only so you start to realise what you don’t know, and can really attack the research, develop your management skills and organise the training your staff require/deserve.

Where do people find the hours for conspiracy sites - for ‘information’ that serves no worthwhile purpose whatsoever? Doesn’t make you a better parent, doesn’t help your business be more profitable.

They've got you exactly where they want you. Too busy to even think for a minute about what's going on.

 

[Bumpswithagrin]

The vaccination rate tells a different story with Vic at 90%.

90% of Vic's have used their critical thinking and made a wise call.

Achieved only through harassment and coercion.

 

[GuzzLG]

100% - unless medically exempt they have no excuse not to be vaccinated.

Children that aren't vaccinated for Hep B, Diptheria, Polio, Influenzae B, Measles, Mumps etc can't go to school - why aren't these people also staging a walk out?

Misinformation

don’t need a single vaccine to go to school

 

[No SPIN]

Are they though? News outlets before the roll out touted these vaccines as being likely 90 - 95% effective at preventing Covid 19. More than 90% effective at stopping it's transmission. I was in the middle of proving this to you before you nuked the old thread. Still in disbelief?

Just do a time limited search for articles about the vaccines in the last few months of last year.

Here's a few examples.

COVID-19 vaccine is more than 90 per cent effective, Pfizer and BioNTech say

The World Health Organisation's senior adviser said the vaccine could "fundamentally change the direction of this crisis" by March, when the UN agency hopes to start vaccinating high-risk groups.

www.smh.com.au

'Just extraordinary': Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine trial shows early success

Experts are optimistic after the initial results show the vaccine could be 90 per cent effective in stopping coronavirus transmission, but more work needs to be done in the trial.

www.abc.net.au

That's what we were promised. What did we get instead? Imperfect, leaky vaccines, rushed through courtesy of Operation Warp-speed. That's the profound irony. Here you are, an avowed leftist and hater of all things Trump, defending to the death a rushed product of the Trump administration.

Not sure why people persist with the misrepresenting the facts - yes the media report 90-95% efficacy, but that was against the ALPHA Variant.
For you to now, use these numbers to claim MSM were lying, while also knowing DELTA is the predominant Variant today, is disingenuous.

 

[Bumpswithagrin]

100% - unless medically exempt they have no excuse not to be vaccinated.

Children that aren't vaccinated for Hep B, Diptheria, Polio, Influenzae B, Measles, Mumps etc can't go to school - why aren't these people also staging a walk out?

This is what I'm talking about, it is very scary that people think it is OK to coerce people into having an injection. It is not, it is immoral and illegal.

If you lose the right to bodily autonomy you have lost everything. Mind boggling to me that anyone thinks like this. Thankfully only a minority.

 

[Trav 20]

The old definition of vaccines. So, just change it.

 

[No SPIN]

I suggest you reread the article. The disease was only a minor problem BEFORE they started vaccinating. The vaccines are "leaky", which has lead to it being a much bigger problem now. If the survival prospects of these chickens weren't so grim due to them being eaten, they would likely require ongoing booster shots. The vaccine has caused the problem, that was what the article literally said. How you have come to the complete opposite conclusion boggles the mind.

The Vaccine in the chicken study was against a Herpes Type Virus not a Coronavirus.
So why are you extrapolating to suggest relevance in Humans, let alone a Vaccine against a completely different type of Virus to COVID 19.
see my post #386 above

 

[Wild Bill]

Misinformation

don’t need a single vaccine to go to school

• By law, a child must have an Immunisation History Statement from the Australian Immunisation Register to enrol in primary school.
• By law, an Immunisation History Statement must be provided to the primary school when enrolling a child, even if the certificate shows that the child has not received any vaccinations.
• Immunisation History Statements can be obtained from the Australian Immunisation Register.

 

[No SPIN]

There’s a law firm in Toowoomba with 100+ doctors on his book. Dean Spanner, a partner at the law firm, spoke to the Toowoomba protest on Sunday. I won’t try and use his words but watch this space.
It’ll all be over soon Chief and that’s why you’re censoring. The sight of panic is a beautiful thing. Nuremberg 2.0 just with our politicians will be massive. Chairman Dan, Sneakers, Palestine in Qld, Chief Minister up North, Scummo, etc. They’ll all go to jail.
Greg Hunt is quitting because they tried to kill him because originally he wasn’t towing the vaccine narrative.

Are you sure?
Other CT's are probably going to suggest he's retiring to enjoy the millions he's been given by Big Pharma.

 

[zill]

I can't keep up anymore. Last I heard it was these far righties who were anti vax and marching at the protests.

It actually makes more sense for the nazis to be pro-vax. In that scenario, they wouldn't want the vaccine to be widely available in places like Africa and India. Which is exactly what has happened.

 

[GuzzLG]

• By law, a child must have an Immunisation History Statement from the Australian Immunisation Register to enrol in primary school.
• By law, an Immunisation History Statement must be provided to the primary school when enrolling a child, even if the certificate shows that the child has not received any vaccinations.
• Immunisation History Statements can be obtained from the Australian Immunisation Register.

Correct

you need a certificate to attend school, not a vaccine

 

[zill]

Haven't you heard? The white supremacists are protesting because they don't want the vaccines for themselves because they don't think it works and they're going to DIE but the other white supremacists are targeting Aboriginal people to tell them not to take the vaccine because they know it works and they want them to DIE.

It's almost as if nazis are a useful boogeyman to try to explain away all the BS our "authorities" regurgitate on a daily basis.

They got the last thread memory-holed after all, so they are highly effective in that regard.

 

[Chief]

40,000 people who are set to lose their jobs due to the vax mandate.

They (if it is 40,000) are set to lose their jobs through natural human credulity. It’s a crime what the grifters and sharks are doing to these people.

 

[Slippery Pete]

Cliffs:

-Double vaxxed
-Still gets Covid
-Now in isolation
-Another 14 days isolation on return to WA

The truly amazing thing is nobody could’ve seen this coming!!

I don’t know about you blokes, but I’m glad I listened to the experts and all the good folk on this forum who told me that vaccination is the only way out of this and that it would all be over if only we’d all just get double jabbed!

I thank you all for being such paragons of wisdom and foresight. You are without a doubt, smarter than the “conspiracy theorists.”

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[backtozero]

It's almost as if nazis are a useful boogeyman to try to explain away all the BS our "authorities" regurgitate on a daily basis.

They got the last thread memory-holed after all, so they are highly effective in that regard.

It's amazing how many people just don't have a bullshit detector at all.

No matter what your specific feelings are, if there's nothing at all about this pandemic that has made you raise an eyebrow then I think its fair to say you'll believe just about anything you're told, so long as there's a person of authority saying it.

 

[Chief]

It's almost as if nazis are a useful boogeyman to try to explain away all the BS our "authorities" regurgitate on a daily basis.

They got the last thread memory-holed after all, so they are highly effective in that regard.

And yet we know there are neo-Nazis and MLM grifters involved in a lot of the online organising and anti-mandate activity. For no real gain to their followers.

They have no “organisation” on the day. They have no plan beyond the next fake rally. No networking beyond boosting each other’s social media. No demands but “stop it”!

It’s all about the $30 t-shirts and kicking a few points up to the boss.