March On 3AW

[tugga]

Could you post or PM me these said rules as I still dont think this is cut and dry.

I PMd one of the admins and that is what they told me.

 

[RichosGuns]

Well it may be correct, but it isn't right

 

[Bojangles17]

Guess we need some clarification from higher above. When I was Mod it was always expected that links to other forums were out. You could mention the site but not direct link. With this thread I ensured that I mentioned where the info had come from so I'm not sure why people are upset.

oh I get it, you're ruthless tiger...I didn;t realise , whats with changing the nic all the time...you got people after ya

 

[AstroboyUK]

oh I get it, you're ruthless tiger...I didn;t realise , whats with changing the nic all the time...you got people after ya

congratulations: thread successfully hijacked. Well done.

 

[_RT_]

Could you post or PM me these said rules as I still dont think this is cut and dry.

This is the rule I'm going by. To me it suggests that linking to competing forums is not on. Linking to things like the AFL site or the newspapers or the like when posting articles is requested rather than having people just post the whole article.

Posting links to sites or contacting people via PM advertising your web site or goods or services is not allowed.

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/faq.php?faq=vb_faq#faq_forum_rules

 

[CallMeAl]

If i put a link to a post on another forum it is hardly advertising my website, goods or services?

 

[smasha]

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["The Roar Is Back"]

My understanding from the email sent to all users on March 11 , was that posting content which required BF users to leave this site for any part of the article within the link provided , was not permitted !
Another words, if you wish to post a link to another site you are required to post the whole article upon here ?
With Broadstream/multi media the requirement is for users to post the first paragraph and then the link ?
I am awaiting a response from admin to confirm if my understanding is correct or not ?

 

[_RT_]

If i put a link to a post on another forum it is hardly advertising my website, goods or services?

But it is directing users away from this site which is not what the powers that be want. Its the same as if you had your own site, would you be happy having poster there posting links to rival sites and directing your users there.

I don't agree with the rule, but understand why its been put in place.

 

[CallMeAl]

lol.

it's not like they will go to to another site and never come back, nor are any posters here buying looking to buy a product that they will otherwise buy on another forum.

i too can see why they put the rule in place, but i can also see that is is probably counter productive.

If the rule is worded as i quoted then they either need to re word it or that is not what what they are trying to convey, anyway.

 

[PHX]

But it is directing users away from this site which is not what the powers that be want. Its the same as if you had your own site, would you be happy having poster there posting links to rival sites and directing your users there.

If you had your own smaller Tiger forum would you be happy with someone copy and pasting an entire piece of work you had taken the time to write out and then not properly give you credit.

I think that's the just as relevant question here.

I PMd one of the admins and that is what they told me.

Were they directed to look at this exact example for the ruling?

 

[_RT_]

If you had your own smaller Tiger forum would you be happy with someone copy and pasting an entire piece of work you had taken the time to write out and then not properly give you credit.

I think that's the just as relevant question here.




Were they directed to look at this exact example for the ruling?

I did credit them, just didn't post a link to the site as per BF rules. I do the same thing when I post on other Richmond forums as well, I post where I got it from but don't give the direct link.

 

[Tiger_Stripes]

Sorry... and who are you ??

Join date 2002? One of the shadow posters... Always around, never heard

 

[El Tigre]

Two issues being discussed
1 - If you have copied something, always quote source
2 - Don't give direct links into other footy forums

Tho only addition is that i would say that the source is actually the poster on OER, not OER itself. The poster who creates the material is the owner of the material. I couldn't think that upon signing an agreement with a forum provider, that you are signing exclusivity rights that the material you publish. The main stream media quote from forums and other public means, and they refer to the user and where they get the material, ie Tiger80 @Tweeter.

 

[NQTIGER]

So yo cant post links on the forums or PM people?

How does the STASI know what we PM?

 

[tugga]

Were they directed to look at this exact example for the ruling?

Yes I provided a link (pun intended)

 

[PHX]

Ha.

I'm still not sure about this at all but it is how it is I guess.

 

["The Roar Is Back"]

I have clarified this situation with chief .
For private , non broad stream/ multimedia :
The whole article must be posted for a link to be included .

For broad stream / multimedia ,
Post the first paragraph and then link !

 

[eays]

The way of the internet:

big media = big lawyers = proper credit when reproducing

small media = no lawyers = free for all

 

[PHX]

For private , non broad stream/ multimedia :
The whole article must be posted for a link to be included .

For broad stream / multimedia ,
Post the first paragraph and then link !

And in this situation RT did post the lot so I direct link should be included in the OP. . .

 

[tugga]

And in this situation RT did post the lot so I direct link should be included in the OP. . .

I really don't care one way or the other - so many more improtant things in life to worry about...BUT, the answer I received from admin was that RT did exactly the right thing.

 

[PHX]

And PTF got an answer from admin that said the opposite.

 

["The Roar Is Back"]

If someone posts something upon a public Website / blog / forum ect. it becomes public property , and IMO they should expect that it can be reproduced without compensation or recognition !
I think it is reasonable that BF asks that links be placed to provide credit . Whilst also asks that the whole article be placed to avoid BF becoming a dumping ground for spam URL's !

 

[eays]

If someone posts something upon a public Website / blog / forum ect. it becomes public property , and IMO they should expect that it can be reproduced without compensation or recognition !
I think it is reasonable that BF asks that links be placed to provide credit . Whilst also asks that the whole article be placed to avoid BF becoming a dumping ground for spam URL's !

I assume your being sarcastic? Someone posts something, they still own the copyright and that provides various protections, unless they indicate (explicitly or implicitly) otherwise. Just because people post on BF does not mean they necessarily authorise such posting to be reproduced elsewhere, regardless of whether it is credited, linked etc.

Posting a headline or catch line and then linking, is more than just common courtesy, its really best practice and *should* apply consistently to both big media and small media alike.

Of course, as i said before, small media cant really monitor or enforce it's a bit different strokes for different folks. But that doesnt make it right, morally or legally.

Of course, if the original poster is the one re-posting to various forums, no credit or links would be required because its their own material.