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But Dusty didn't have to retire to get to GC? He was uncontracted.

Nothing like Dimma.

Exactly. So why retire from the club and move there a few weeks later? It's the same smoke and mirrors crap

I don't think Dusty is doing that to be clear. I think he is retired, but if he retired & we all sit around singing his praises for retiring a 1 club player & then 2 months later went to GC to ride a tandem bike with Dimma, instead of accepting the sign on extension for better money to remain a Tiger - i think that would be piss-poor for sure. It would 100% seem premeditated and 100% justify David Schwartz story and make it seem like it was all arranged as a PR exit from his management for him to have his cake and eat it too.

To me, it all sounds like way too much bullshit for Dusty. I always knew Dimma was heading to GC after he retired as that is the kind of narcissistic crap he would do - but its not how i see Dusty liking things to roll at all. If he has said he is retiring, i take his word for that until i have reason not to
 
Exactly. So why retire from the club and move there a few weeks later? It's the same smoke and mirrors crap

I don't think Dusty is doing that to be clear. I think he is retired, but if he retired & we all sit around singing his praises for retiring a 1 club player & then 2 months later went to GC to ride a tandem bike with Dimma, instead of accepting the sign on extension for better money to remain a Tiger - i think that would be piss-poor for sure. It would 100% seem premeditated and 100% justify David Schwartz story and make it seem like it was all arranged as a PR exit from his management for him to have his cake and eat it too.

To me, it all sounds like way too much bullshit for Dusty. I always knew Dimma was heading to GC after he retired as that is the kind of narcissistic crap he would do - but its not how i see Dusty liking things to roll at all. If he has said he is retiring, i take his word for that until i have reason not to
He won't...
 
Exactly. So why retire from the club and move there a few weeks later? It's the same smoke and mirrors crap

I don't think Dusty is doing that to be clear. I think he is retired, but if he retired & we all sit around singing his praises for retiring a 1 club player & then 2 months later went to GC to ride a tandem bike with Dimma, instead of accepting the sign on extension for better money to remain a Tiger - i think that would be piss-poor for sure. It would 100% seem premeditated and 100% justify David Schwartz story and make it seem like it was all arranged as a PR exit from his management for him to have his cake and eat it too.

To me, it all sounds like way too much bullshit for Dusty. I always knew Dimma was heading to GC after he retired as that is the kind of narcissistic crap he would do - but its not how i see Dusty liking things to roll at all. If he has said he is retiring, i take his word for that until i have reason not to

Dimma didn’t retire. He resigned. Bit different. I think he’d already had the offer to go to GC and when we lost to Essendon he got shitty and decided to accept it. But of course the new squeeze wanted an overseas holiday first.
 

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Dimma didn’t retire. He resigned. Bit different. I think he’d already had the offer to go to GC and when we lost to Essendon he got shitty and decided to accept it. But of course the new squeeze wanted an overseas holiday first.
Dimma wants to win another premiership and knew it wasn't going to happen at Richmond anytime soon.
 
He actually has a sickness or his career is going down the toilet and this is a Hail Mary attempt at saving it.
How many concussions did he have? 🤔
 
Dimma didn’t retire. He resigned. Bit different. I think he’d already had the offer to go to GC and when we lost to Essendon he got shitty and decided to accept it. But of course the new squeeze wanted an overseas holiday first.

yup agree with all that.

As i've said - I think if Dusty says he has retired, he has retired. I don't think the shit Hardwick pulled is in Dusty's character at all. I'd be shocked & really disappointed if he ever plays for the Suns at this point
 

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That's just not true and I wish people here would stop saying it. Dimma did us a huge favour. We were going nowhere with him at the helm, he was out of ideas for that squad and he knew it was time for him to leave and let us refresh after an amazing era.

It was never six weeks that's just absolute BS.

If you know anything about burnout and the damaging effects it has on you and the people around you you'd stop this toxic narrative and just let the dust settle on an incredibly successful coach who gave everything he had to us until the tank was empty.
well said and glad someone said it..
Some of the Dimma bashing that goes on is just disrespectful to a man who gave his all to our club.
 
NameAblett JnrJuddFyfeDangerfiedNealeBontempelliPendleburyMartin
Games357279237332265236401302
Goals445228176331124228202338
Total Average Possessions per Game24.9222.8724.123.4827.3723.9225.5924.24
Total Average Goals per Game1.240.810.740.990.460.960.51.11
Average Possessions per Game (Home & Away)25.0822.8224.0723.4227.5523.9625.7324.36
Average Goals per Game (Home & Away)1.280.820.741.080.440.960.51.08
Average Possessions per Game (Finals)22.7623.5924.7324.0825.0523.0823.9722
Average Goals per Game (Finals)0.80.640.630.920.360.910.291.68
Seasons1914151713111915
Average Goals per Season23.4216.2811.7319.529.6120.7210.5722.53
Most Goals in a Season4429244516312437
Brownlow Medal Votes262210187248187169221212
Average Brownlow Votes per Game0.730.750.780.740.70.710.540.7
Most Brownlow Votes in a Season3030333531332436
Club Leading Goal Kicker30000100
Club Best & Fairest65345552
Brownlow Medal22212001
All Australian86383564
AFLMVP (Leigh Matthews Trophy)52211201
AFLCA Champion Player of the Year30011111
AFLCA Player of the Finals (Gary Ayres Award)00010003
Norm Smith Medal01000013
Premierships21010123
 
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NameAblett JnrJuddFyfeDangerfiedNealeBontempelliPendleburyMartin
Games357279237332265236401302
Goals445228176331124228202338
Total Average Possessions per Game24.9222.8724.123.4827.3723.9225.5924.24
Total Average Goals per Game1.240.810.740.990.460.9625.81.11
Average Possessions per Game (Home & Away)25.0822.8224.0723.4227.5523.9625.7324.36
Average Goals per Game (Home & Away)1.280.820.741.080.440.960.51.08
Average Possessions per Game (Finals)22.7623.5924.7324.0825.0523.0823.9722
Average Goals per Game (Finals)0.80.640.630.920.360.910.291.68
Seasons1914151713111915
Average Goals per Season23.4216.2811.7319.529.6120.7210.5722.53
Most Goals in a Season4429244516312437
Brownlow Medal Votes262210187248187169221212
Average Brownlow Votes per Game0.730.750.780.740.70.710.540.7
Most Brownlow Votes in a Season3030333531332436
Club Leading Goal Kicker30000100
Club Best & Fairest65345552
Brownlow Medal22212001
All Australian86383564
AFLMVP (Leigh Matthews Trophy)52211201
AFLCA Champion Player of the Year30011111
AFLCA Player of the Finals (Gary Ayres Award)00010003
Norm Smith Medal01000013
Premierships21010123

Dusty the only one of these to increase his goals in finals compared to H&A and not by a little bit. It’s a 50% increase. That’s insane.

And you can’t say it’s cause they put him more forward than the others. He essentially still averaged the same amount of disposals as them whilst getting about 2-6 times the amount of goals lol.

Mr Evergreen Pendlebury really sticks out like a sore thumb in this list btw. Geez

BTW lunchtime you calculated Pendles goals per game wrong by mistake đź‘Ť
 
Dusty the only one of these to increase his goals in finals compared to H&A and not by a little bit. It’s a 50% increase. That’s insane.

And you can’t say it’s cause they put him more forward than the others. He essentially still averaged the same amount of disposals as them whilst getting about 2-6 times the amount of goals lol.

Mr Evergreen Pendlebury really sticks out like a sore thumb in this list btw. Geez

BTW lunchtime you calculated Pendles goals per game wrong by mistake đź‘Ť

A few things:

1. The error your flagged has been fixed, thanks for letting me know.

2. Dusty wasn't just a "Finals Specialist" and granted others in that table probably have a better Home & Away record. But in Finals he went to another level which the others probably couldn't go to.
 
Dusty the only one of these to increase his goals in finals compared to H&A and not by a little bit. It’s a 50% increase. That’s insane.

And you can’t say it’s cause they put him more forward than the others. He essentially still averaged the same amount of disposals as them whilst getting about 2-6 times the amount of goals lol.

Mr Evergreen Pendlebury really sticks out like a sore thumb in this list btw. Geez

BTW lunchtime you calculated Pendles goals per game wrong by mistake đź‘Ť

See below, I have updated table to now include Goal Assists. Guess who comes out on top in Goal Assists in Finals....yep you guessed it...


NameAblett JnrJuddFyfeDangerfiedNealeBontempelliPendleburyMartin
Games357279237332265236401302
Goals445228176331124228202338
Total Average Possessions per Game24.9222.8724.123.4827.3723.9225.5924.24
Total Average Goals per Game1.240.810.740.990.460.960.51.11
Average Possessions per Game (Home & Away)25.0822.8224.0723.4227.5523.9625.7324.36
Average Goals per Game (Home & Away)1.280.820.741.080.440.960.51.08
Average Possessions per Game (Finals)22.7623.5924.7324.0825.0523.0823.9722
Average Goals per Game (Finals)0.80.640.630.920.360.910.291.68
Total Goal Assists (average)261 (0.73)208 (0.74)131 (0.55)236 (0.70)131 (0.49)194 (0.81)299 (0.74)221 (0.73)
Goal Assists - Home & Away (average)248 (0.74)198 (0.75)126 (0.55)219 (0.71)126 (0.51)183 (0.81)284 (0.70)203 (0.70)
Goal Assists - Finals (average)13 (0.52)10 (0.58)4 (0.36)17 (0.65)5 (0.26)11 (0.91)15 (0.48)18 (1.12)
Seasons1914151713111915
Average Goals per Season23.4216.2811.7319.529.6120.7210.5722.53
Most Goals in a Season4429244516312437
Brownlow Medal Votes262210187248187169221212
Average Brownlow Votes per Game0.730.750.780.740.70.710.540.7
Most Brownlow Votes in a Season3030333531332436
Club Leading Goal Kicker30000100
Club Best & Fairest65345552
Brownlow Medal22212001
All Australian86383564
AFLMVP (Leigh Matthews Trophy)52211201
AFLCA Champion Player of the Year30011111
AFLCA Player of the Finals (Gary Ayres Award)00010003
Norm Smith Medal01000013
Premierships21010123
 
Dimma wants to win another premiership and knew it wasn't going to happen at Richmond anytime soon.
It's not going to happen at gold coast either. Ever.
 
Not criticising the GOAT at all, but I wonder why he didn’t finish the season. He could have skipped the Saints and Hawks games then finished at the MCG in front of a home crowd. If his back was the issue wouldn’t the two weeks off and some painkillers have been enough to get him through for a big send off?
 
Not criticising the GOAT at all, but I wonder why he didn’t finish the season. He could have skipped the Saints and Hawks games then finished at the MCG in front of a home crowd. If his back was the issue wouldn’t the two weeks off and some painkillers have been enough to get him through for a big send off?
Yze mentioned that Martin felt like a burden to the team because of his injuries and performance. Plus, he thought he was taking the spot of a younger player
 

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