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jamo14

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Just wondering what everybody here thinks of Master O'Reillys chances on Tuesday. I suppose you will all probably rip my head off, but I don't think he is too far off the mark.

This time last year he was being spruiked as a good thing in the cup, when in reality he had probably had enough after the Caulfield Cup. This year he has been set specifically for this race, yet nobody wants to know about him.

I didn't think his run was all that bad either in the Caulfield Cup. In my opinion he hit the line quite well out wide after settling a fair way back. Perhaps I am overvaluing that particular effort, but I think a lot of people have judged that run from the perspective of him being a winning proposition in the Caulfield Cup (in which case I accept that it was a dissapointing performance) rather than from a Melbourne Cup point of view.

Of course he ran again last Saturday in the Cox Plate and given the tempo set by the eventual winner Maldivian he was given next to no opportunity at WFA level. I think it was just the sort of run that he needed to top him off for Tuesday.

Now I am in no way declaring him, but I just think that he should not be dismissed lightly, given the fact that everyone was happy to snap up the 7/2 last year when he wasn't necessarily set for the race, whilst this year he is friendless in the betting even around the 33/1 mark, even though it can be argued he has had a more suitable preparation this year.

Thoughts
 
caulfield cup and cox plate were both to short i reckon
had a good late run in the caulfield cup just ran out of track
i really like him for tuesday i reckon i'll go with him
 
He's the forgotten horse a bit, reminds me of Efficient last year. His campaign has gone pretty well, first up he was very good running on exactly with Efficient in the Makybe Diva, then he ran as well as Zipping in the Turnball, Caulfield Cup he wasn't disgraced looking a bit dour, and you can forget the cox plate. You might doubt whether he can stay a strong 3200m, and he wont be my first pick, but I won't be leaving out altogether.
 

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I've been saying him for a couple months now - I knew a lot of people that backed him in the cox and caulfield and I told them not to bother because it's been clear for a while that they've been aiming him at the melb cup all year & that they wouldn't flog it in the cox/caulfield - After last years debacle, i really think the trainers have set him up well for a good run at the cup.
 
His run in the Caulfield Cup was not bad at all and his jockey said that he jarred up a bit on the hard surface. I reckon he is right up the top with Nom Du Jeu as the best of the Australasians.
 
I just dont like the horse , i cant even give you a good reason why i just cant have him in anything. Im sure sooner rather than later he will do me out of a first 4 but i just dont get it. Dont get me wrong there is nothing at all wrong with his form, and if i owned him id be absolutely loving it but im the same about sirmione. My bias will cost me money im sure but i cant stand either of them but as i said i cant give you a reason why.
 
I have him on top

Positives
- 5th run this preparation (coincides with Caulfield Cup win last year)
- unheralded run in this years Caulfield Cup, solid but not spectacular
- strong run in Turnbull 3 starts back (Flemington)
- trained on track
- jockey / horse combined for 7 wins previously

Negatives
- distance query
- up in weight
- stronger cup field than last year (where he finished 8th)
 
I reckon the key to him is where he settles.

He settled midfield in last year's Caulfield Cup and looked a world beater when he finished too well.

He was near last in the Cup last year - a very hard task from there and ran accordingly.

He has settled at the back of the field in this year's Caulfield Cup and Cox Plate and ran OK but you get the feeling they weren't setting him to win those races.

Settle him midfield in today's race and I can see him featuring in the finish.
 

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I put an easy $20 on the master today. If you ask me he had the goods, but he got boxed in and he had nowhere to go :(
He looked the unluckiest runner in the race and finnished off the race better than anything. He can definately stay the the trip.
 
Not sure if he could have done too much better.

He did have a slightly chequered passage, but was some distance behind the first two and C''est Le Guerre was held up at the top of the straight as well.

I am talking through my pocket as well as I had marked him on top!
 

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