Maynard cleared by tribunal for Brayshaw collision

[Corn Cobbers]

THE AFL has opted against appealing the Tribunal's decision in the Brayden Maynard case, meaning the Collingwood defender is in the clear to play in the Magpies' preliminary final.

AFL ponders rule change after Maynard Tribunal call

The Brayden Maynard saga is officially over after the AFL opted not to appeal the Tribunal's decision

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The AFL, having brought the charge against Maynard, said on Wednesday that it would not challenge the Tribunal's ruling, but would comment further later in the day.

"The AFL has confirmed that after careful consideration and review of the Tribunal's decision and reasons following last night's hearing into the incident involving Collingwood's Brayden Maynard and Melbourne's Angus Brayshaw, the AFL has decided not to appeal the Tribunal's decision," a statement read.

"Per the Tribunal Guidelines the AFL had to make this decision by 12:00pm AEST today.

"The AFL will release a further statement later today."

Finally some sanity

 

[Nikita Blue]

This would be highly embarrassing for the AFL if there is no suspension. Whether he gets off on appeal or not, I am leaning towards the Tribunal handing down some kind of suspension.

Brayshaw may never play again.

That's awful.

A salient reminder of who the actual victim is.

 

[Maze]

Nearly... while going at a crazy pace and in a dangerous manner = zero chance in a 'normal' football action. He was perhaps 10m off Brayshaw when he jumped and at the wrong angle. TBH if he was going to touch the ball his angle should have been more across the ground anyway.

10m.(Must have been Carl Lewis)..crazy pace..dangerous manner....The hyperbole!!! Do you work for Fox news?

 

[GoPies1]

That's awful.

A salient reminder of who the actual victim is.

Callum Ah Chee?
Wasn’t any pity from memory?
Missed the entire finals series!

 

[PLATTS44]

Chris Scott and Ross Lyon pretty much saying it is a suspension without outright saying it

Its a week for mine,sicily would have got 6.

 

[Randomizor]

I love the 'He braced for contact' argument. Why not just keep your arm stuck out and reduce the contact? He didn't choose to brace for contact with the ground by tucking in his elbow and landing on his shoulder.

This is the sticking point for me too. The smother was interesting in itself but footballers do strange stuff all the time, but 99% of people are sticking their arms out to get distance from what they are about to careen into in that situation. Tucking in is a decision not a natural reflex.

 

[Maze]

So Maynard rocked up at Brayshaws house with flowers and wine the next day.

******* scum of the earth that mob. Absolutely putrid and transparently insincere.

Gotta be the lowest form of deception by the Collingwood Footbal Club to send him over to say sorry and likely use it as evidence tomorrow night to try and get him off.

Should've been decked immediately.

Wonder if Martin contacted Blakey speaking of low ***** scum of the earth acts???

 

[Leather Poisoning]

This is a weird one because the more I've heard the defence of Maynard and the more it gets talked about, the more convinced I am that he has to be suspended. There's a reason we have basically never seen an identical incident before this.

For all the nitpicking over 0.2 second reaction times, there's almost no discussion about what he was doing in the first place. He had no realistic chance of smothering the kick, was going utterly full pelt directly at an opponent, lept through the air and made high, late contact that has flattened the bloke, put him out for the year (likely) and possibly ended his career (small but possible chance).

This wasn't a football play, because footballers don't normally go flailing through the air like a madman directly at their opponent like this. Maynard was amped because of the final and crowd, went for a play that he normally wouldn't in a dangerous manner and took out his opponent. A suspension is warranted.

I don't know the exact grading but even Careless-High-High contact = 2 weeks, while Careless-High-Severe would be 2+




But he didn't? As above, he ran at him full pelt, jumped at a ball he had basically zero chance of smothering, and made late, high contact.

Had Maynard jumped straight in the air rather than forwards, Brayshaw wouldn't have been hit and/or the momentum would have been less, and the damage and impact would have been negligible.

Maynard would not have known when Brayshaw was going to kick the ball. It became a game of chicken because these days the tackler will usually slow down to lay the tackle and the kicker won't normally get that close when he's got that much space and the whole 50 in front of him.

Maynard would have been sprinting in because it was the first bounce, but also seeing brayshaw sprinting at him he would have been coming in to tackle. The smother seemed like a reflex because it looked like Brayshaw was going to take on the tackler.

Either way - it happened five days ago and this thread has dissected the incident for every minute of that five days. Maynard didn't disect his options for 5 days leading up to it. He didn't make an intentional, calculated decision. He ran in full of adrenaline and probably acted on reflex/reaction after initially misreading the situation.

Even so - he's gotta play in a way that doesn't result in his shoulder driving Angus Brayshaw into consussive retirement. So a suspension should happen. I guarantee he won't do it again for the rest of his career.

 

[Go the Guts]

It was a smother. There is no law against a smother.
What is Maynard expected to do after elected to try to smother the ball?
What did he do that is regarded as careless?
What did he do to breach duty of care?
I'd expect him to get off, purely because it was an instinctive action to smother. No malice involved.

There's over a hundred pages in this thread, and on most of them you will read very clear reasons on why everything you have written is wrong, and has only been written by you as you are a supporter of his club.

 

[Vindicater]

Kicking the ball?

Roby has jumped the shark on this one.

 

[perplexed]

So are many hits that never get referred

True. But the good thing is that this one has been. Let's just hope Maynard isn't allowed to play before his victim can.

 

[Pistol Night]

Great answer you complete f**ken moron.

Many false assumptions in that but why bother

 

[Mr Magic]

Absolute BS.

That was a bump.

No contest. The contest was hands to the ball. No need to brace, could have put the hands out. Maynard was never going to be at risk, if Brayshaw coat hangered Maynard he would be out for weeks!!

Then there was the start of teh game, head butt and other head high efforts like on the wing. The fact he has not already got six weeks already and two weeks for the headbutt is unbelievable.

You do that, you earn the right to be banned from the GF. I am comfortable with that. It was a cunning hit!!

 

[dmc333]

Arguably he didn't have to hit him with the shoulder, but the other alternative was probably arms out and bring Brayshaw down/roll with him in a tackle type motion, but that still has the prospect of smacking the back of Brayshaw's head on the turf.

Interesting to think if he did that and Brayshaw still ended up concussed where he'd sit.

 

[Mr Magic]

The point is this. How many smothers, end up in bumps?? How many smothers have jump up in the airs to try and touch the ball??

What do the stats say??

He had the opportunity to bump him and took it when he did not have to and the stats say it is only rare situations players take the option to bump players after trying to smother a ball.

It was not in the act of smothering either, it was a bump and turn on the way down after awareness of missing the ball

 

[demondavey]

Great answer you complete f**ken moron.

Correct.

I don’t like what Maynard did but I don’t want some ridiculous vigilante targeting him if he gets off.

Mind you if it’s a Melbourne vigilante they’ll probably package up a snowball from Bulla and hit him with it.

‘Righto, old chap! Let him have a taste of his own! Just drive the ranger nice and close and put a full volley on his tail!’

Hhhhhmph!

 

[Mr Lizard]

Actually Brayshaw went into Maynard’s path whilst he was in the air.
He went to the right, which is not his fault, as he wouldn’t have seen him coming but to say Maynard jumped into Brayshaw path is just untrue.

you're saying Maynard's line there isn't into Brayshaw's path? Steps from left, launches from his right...

Maynard's right hip and the edge of the red centre circle is a handy reference.



Or just look at how his feet are lined up in the first frame (above).

Brayshaw isn't running straight down the ground either.



Pretty clearly going straight at him, as he'd need to do to intercept the kick.

 

[William C]

All the media commentary is about Maynard jumping up and being a natural smother attempt but it isn't. What they don't mention is that Maynard is jumping significantly forward from a long way out straight at Brayshaw. It was an all or nothing smother attempt as the opposition mid has a clean break straight from centre bounce and you would have backed him to hit a target in those situations.

It's a careless and desperate act that he got wrong and was rightly awarded a downfield free.
Maynard made a split second decision that he got wrong. AFL will try to suspend him given he made the choice to go for that all or nothing smother attempt and hit him in the head.

Personally i am fine with the downfield free on the night however it's blown out because of the unfortunate hit to the head. I'd rather see the AFL implement a free concussion sub like they do in the NRL as the Dees were unfairly disadvantaged by the opposition.

What will happen is the AFL will suspend him to protect their asses but Maynard will get off on appeal

 

[GoPies1]

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you're saying Maynard's line there isn't into Brayshaw's path? Steps from left, launches from his right...

Maynard's right hip and the edge of the red centre circle is a handy reference.

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Or just look at how his feet are lined up in the first frame (above).

Brayshaw isn't running straight down the ground either.

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Pretty clearly going straight at him, as he'd need to do to intercept the kick.

if you run a vertical line from the center to maynard the horizontal distance doesn’t decrease.
Do the same for brayshaw and he is coming across to the left towards maynard.
Maynard lept vertically, the ball passes him and brayshaw closes the gap.
All very quickly as brayshaw had sprinted about 15 mtrs.

 

[Elixuh]

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if you run a vertical line from the center to maynard the horizontal distance doesn’t decrease.
Do the same for brayshaw and he is coming across to the left towards maynard.
Maynard lept vertically, the ball passes him and brayshaw closes the gap.
All very quickly as brayshaw had sprinted about 15 mtrs.

Yes, generally when a person kicks a ball their kicking foot must at some stage come down and touch the ground again which is what those pictures show. An astute observation.

 

[Soggy2112]

Actually Brayshaw went into Maynard’s path whilst he was in the air.
He went to the right, which is not his fault, as he wouldn’t have seen him coming but to say Maynard jumped into Brayshaw path is just untrue.

Any movement Brayshaw makes off his line is very minimal, and as you mention, a part of his natural kicking action. Even without that movement Maynard is still going to make contact, it’s possible he gets lucky and only glances Brayshaw and there is no concussion, but again, it’s still careless on Maynard’s behalf.

I think it’s reasonable to expect Maynard in that moment to realise that when he jumps he’s a good chance of hitting Brayshaw. Leaving the ground at high speed with an opposition ball carrier coming in the opposite direction just has to be considered careless.

Careless, high impact, concussion occurs, it has to be weeks.

 

[Soggy2112]

Maynard didn't jump in Brayshaw's path from the onset, Brayshaw kicked and went leaned to him just as much Maynard did.

Did you actually watch it again or do you just have the devil Maynard on replay in your head?

The “lean” is a part of his natural kicking action and has been way over exaggerated on here.

A player should be free to kick the ball on the run without having an opposition player crashing into his face from front on.

 

[Mr Lizard]

if you run a vertical line from the center to maynard the horizontal distance doesn’t decrease.

I'm sorry, you vertical line what now?

 

[Mr Magic]

Another argument is better fairer footballers would recognise before jumping the smother was not going to be effective.

So was it a ruse to bump Brayshaw??

He had vision of Brayshaw right in front eyes on ball before he left the ground so he knew Brayshaw was not looking at him and probably not expecting contact because it is a highly unusual form of smothering.

Just on this, how many instances do we have of smothering in mid air in recent times??? Most players would understand on the run it is a hail mary play at best in terms of effectiveness

 

[GoPies1]

Yes, generally when a person kicks a ball their kicking foot must at some stage come down and touch the ground again which is what those pictures show. An astute observation.

Your comment has nothing relevant to do with the post.
It’s not even on topic.
We are talking about geometry and you are obviously not intelligent enough to follow.
Of course a foot comes down

 

[Dockeroo]

He should be banned but I think he’ll get off on appeal however the mood in the general public has tilted more towards Maynard being suspended and I hope he is. He took an unnecessary and reckless gamble in that play and deserves to wear the consequences.
People somehow partly blaming Brayshaw for it are quite frankly disturbing.