Maynard cleared by tribunal for Brayshaw collision

[Corn Cobbers]

THE AFL has opted against appealing the Tribunal's decision in the Brayden Maynard case, meaning the Collingwood defender is in the clear to play in the Magpies' preliminary final.

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The Brayden Maynard saga is officially over after the AFL opted not to appeal the Tribunal's decision

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The AFL, having brought the charge against Maynard, said on Wednesday that it would not challenge the Tribunal's ruling, but would comment further later in the day.

"The AFL has confirmed that after careful consideration and review of the Tribunal's decision and reasons following last night's hearing into the incident involving Collingwood's Brayden Maynard and Melbourne's Angus Brayshaw, the AFL has decided not to appeal the Tribunal's decision," a statement read.

"Per the Tribunal Guidelines the AFL had to make this decision by 12:00pm AEST today.

"The AFL will release a further statement later today."

Finally some sanity

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

Which part of the Tribunal Statement did you disagree with?

“We are not at all satisfied that a reasonable player would have foreseen that violent impact or impact of the type suffered by Brayshaw was inevitable or even likely”

 

[ChristianBoy]

There is a lot of back and forth about this but it may be time to be realistic.

Maynard did not break any rules of the game, the way they are written.
He didn't delibritly try and hurt Brayshaw, as why would he want to miss a GF.

It had to go to the tribunal, I understand that, even though I didn't expect him to be found guilty.

At the end of the season the AFL will change the rules to prevent this from hopefully happening and fair enough by them.

At the end of the day, I am glad justice was served but lets not forget there is a player who is not well, so that is where our thoughts should be.

It is finals time, how about we place our energy into the great games we have coming up.

Its in two parts all of this.

Should he have been suspended. Yes going on what we have seen from previous actions that have resulted in suspensions.

Did you think he was going to? No he plays for Collingwood.

 

[ChristianBoy]

I can identify 3 Collingwood players suspended during finals who all subsequently missed Grand Finals.
We get off so easily………..

Hard to argue when a player is basically knocked out by Cloke and Rocca. Even then the media reaction and attempt to get them off was a joke.

 

[caloschwaby]

What a joke our once great game has become.

Fwiw I don't think he should be suspended, but the inconsistencies in the MRP, Tribunal, and general umpiring is ridiculous.

Massive conflicts of interest at AFL House continue as well.

Yep, has revealed some dark stuff behind the curtains. They've stepped too far into la la land.

Still can't believe Sicily wasn't let off before too

 

[SBYM]

Imagine if the roles of the incident were reversed and it was Nick Daicos getting knocked out for 2 minutes, and Jack Viney with the attempted "smother".

There is absolutely no way whatsoever that the same Collingwood fans currently windmilling their dicks over Braynard getting off, wouldn't be screaming that Viney is a dirty dog, sniper, etc and demanding a suspension.. chins McGuire would be absolutely apoplectic with rage.

Did lol at 'windmilling their dicks'.

 

[caloschwaby]

“We are not at all satisfied that a reasonable player would have foreseen that violent impact or impact of the type suffered by Brayshaw was inevitable or even likely”

Then we can't help you, you'll just have to die on the hill of disagreement with reality and the physical constants that govern our universe.

 

[caloschwaby]

Yes. The AFL absolutely botched this and their prosecution was very poor. They seem to have tied themselves in knots

It is another example of there being a 'flavour of the month' in their tribunal actions - in this case, all year they have been obsessed with 'duty of care' and how it applies to tackles. They have tried to apply the same logic here and it doesn't work.

Instead, he simply should have been charged with charging, on the grounds the the hit on the ballcarrier was late, high and unreasonable force. No duty of care needed - you just can't jump and bump people in the head and if you do so forcefully you wear the consequences.

As soon as they conceded it was a legitimate attempt to smother ~10mins in I knew it was over.

 

[FireKrakouer]

Did lol at 'windmilling their dicks'.

To be fair that is exactly how I celebrated the decision.

 

[SBYM]

Pics or GTFO.

 

[Stumpy Pete]

To be fair that is exactly how I celebrated the decision.

Sadly mines more of a handheld fan type of thing.

Regards

S. Pete

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

Then we can't help you, you'll just have to die on the hill of disagreement with reality and the physical constants that govern our universe.

I don’t need help.

 

[Stumpy Pete]

Don't really care about any of that. Just think Maynard should have waited until his tribunal hearing was over, and until he was welcome in the room. He was thinking of his own needs rather than Brayshaw's. Brayshaw didn't urgently need his apology, he could have waited a bit for that. That's it.

I agree with this. However this is an area where the MRO, tribunal and appeals board have established an expectation. By adjusting penalties for acts of remorse or contrition they have almost demanded that players undertake actions that Maynard did.

Regards

S. Pete

 

[faible]

Can't wait for Toby Greene

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to exploit this on Saturday by knocking out Rozee accidentally while smothering.

 

[Occidental]

Hard to argue when a player is basically knocked out by Cloke and Rocca. Even then the media reaction and attempt to get them off was a joke.

The point is others HAVE got off - Eg Hall & Dunkley and both were very contentious. There is no pro Collingwood bias, that’s just fantasy.

 

[Anzacday]

I guarantee he mean't to take Brayshaw out. Maybe not his first thought but he saw the chance and took it.

Guarantee?
Mate I am fairly certain, (can’t guarantee it though) he is very conscious of head high contact now.
He was previously suspended for a round arm spoil of the ball and has changed his technique.
Didn’t answer my question, so I’ll try it another way.
Based on the initial movement, (what they were aiming for) which one of these is Maynard’s smother attempt worse than?

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[Occidental]

Can't wait for Toby Greene to exploit this on Saturday by knocking out Rozee accidentally while smothering.

What an awful thing to say.

 

[faible]

What an awful thing to say.

I see you're one of those people who don't understand sarcasm.

 

[faible]

Guarantee?
Mate I am fairly certain, (can’t guarantee it though) he is very conscious of head high contact now.
He was previously suspended for a round arm spoil of the ball and has changed his technique.
Didn’t answer my question, so I’ll try it another way.
Based on the initial movement, (what they were aiming for) which one of these is Maynard’s smother attempt worse than?

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Just as likely he changed his technique to avoid being suspended isn't it? Not out of any particular concern for hitting another player in the head, just that being suspended for it would be inconvenient.

 

[ChristianBoy]

Guarantee?
Mate I am fairly certain, (can’t guarantee it though) he is very conscious of head high contact now.
He was previously suspended for a round arm spoil of the ball and has changed his technique.
Didn’t answer my question, so I’ll try it another way.
Based on the initial movement, (what they were aiming for) which one of these is Maynard’s smother attempt worse than?

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Does it need to be worse? It was an illegal act as the rules are now.

 

[Occidental]

I see you're one of those people who don't understand sarcasm.

On the contrary, I enjoy a sarcastic joke as good as anyone. But this is an internet forum and all we can do is read the literal word. Discerning whether it is literal or sarcastic in meaning is not so clear.

 

[Anzacday]

Just as likely he changed his technique to avoid being suspended isn't it? Not out of any particular concern for hitting another player in the head, just that being suspended for it would be inconvenient.

To stay within the rules of the game.

 

[ChristianBoy]

The point is others HAVE got off - Eg Hall & Dunkley and both were very contentious. There is no pro Collingwood bias, that’s just fantasy.

Contentious is a lot different to what Rocca and Cloke did.

 

[Linda Lovelace]

I doubt there will be any follow up appeal on the decision however let’s remain civilised in the discussion thanks.

In Maynard’s defence they (Collingwood) were able to raise enough doubt that the limited reaction time couldn’t give grounds to argue the collision was avoidable.

Case closed

Not being able to understand that 'left the ground' pertains to an intentional bump and not a spoil is worthy of very mild name-calling. The tribunal decision basically makes the same point that nobody 'sensible' could make such an argument.

'It is not suggested by the AFL and nor could it be sensibly suggested that Maynard made a decision to bump his opponent at the moment of jumping in the air to smother'

To perpetuate this level of ignorance like so many commentators did is not worthy of respect because it is objectively idiotic and has only succeeded in misleading the rest of the uninformed.

 

[Anzacday]

Does it need to be worse?

Fair question, no it doesn’t.
The others are worse looking and the intent to bump is there.

It was an illegal act as the rules are now.

Maynard’s?
No it wasn’t - the rules may change after this though.

 

[Xtreme]

Can't wait for Toby Greene to exploit this on Saturday by knocking out Rozee accidentally while smothering.

Defence won't hold up when vision clearly shows he attempted to smother with a karate kick motion