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Sampi - Yeah it'd be down to how he finishes off the year now he's back in the side and did ok yesterday. A month ago I would have said straight swap. I think Medhurst would be called on to play on a flank for the Eagles, due to his marking skills, so Sampi would probably still be required for the crumbing.

Not out of the question though.

What about Brett Jones?

Solid player at best obviously but he's pretty much the only other one that jumps out at me, assuming you don't want his namesake. B.Jones would more than likely not fill a need for your club though, as you already have many mid sized defenders who aren't really KPP (Thornton, Grover, Mundy etc).
 

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raffrox said:
Trading for Sampi is a joke right? Sampi has talent when his head is in the game but wouldn't be trading one head case for another?

Medders and our third rounder for ERowan Jones sounds good.
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Yeh Raffrox I was joking buddy..

But surely you were too with Jones?
 
I'd trade Rowan Jones in a second but I doubt the club would. I don't think he'd be a guy that would appeal to Freo anyway really. Hard worker but his skills still let him down, if you're looking to get rid of Cook there would be no point bringing Rowan in.
 
I don't think we'd get value from the Eagles for Medhurst.. just glancing at the Eagles playing list to see who's on the fringes. Everyone worth getting wouldn't be traded for him and the others there wouldn't be much point getting imo.
 
purplesoul said:
Claremont player kept on the list in case of injury to the Wiz = depth.
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Claremont player who cant get a kick = sweet FA

New player to rotate through the midfield in the AFL = Depth
 
bushie said:
Claremont player who cant get a kick = sweet FA
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I reckon he would be fantastic as a small forward IF/WHEN the Wiz is not in the same line up.

If Freo can make a good trade, excellent. If not keep him on the list.
 
bushie said:
Claremont player who cant get a kick = sweet FA

New player to rotate through the midfield in the AFL = Depth
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He's having a bad patch at the moment, no one is denying that, but you have got to give him a chance. He isn't having a great season but he is young and has lots of development left in him.

He has given the club a few good years to look back on and he was a key ingredient in making the finals in 2003, so some respect must be given to him.

We can all have our opinions, but it all comes down to Paul, the club and the 15 clubs who might be looking to get him next year. For now though, he is still a Docker.
 
TP3_Freo said:
He's having a bad patch at the moment, no one is denying that, but you have got to give him a chance. He isn't having a great season but he is young and has lots of development left in him.

He has given the club a few good years to look back on and he was a key ingredient in making the finals in 2003, so some respect must be given to him.

We can all have our opinions, but it all comes down to Paul, the club and the 15 clubs who might be looking to get him next year. For now though, he is still a Docker.
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No argument from me there at all.:thumbsu: :thumbsu: And well put. This is not a personal axe grinding of mine, please don't think it is.

Just don't forget that footy today is essentially a business, and in business, harsh and unpopular decisions are sometimes made.
 
This time next year The Wiz will be 30 years old. How many years do you think he will continue to play for? 2...3 years?

Medhurst turns 25 late this year. He started with a flurry but has found the going tough of late when asked to go against his natural game in order to increase his defensive skills and play in a different position.

Form and confidence can be turned around. Someone without natural ability cannot be suddenly gifted it.
No-one know him better than the club, and if they decide to keep him then it's obvious they have more knowledge of the guy than you or me.
Crowley, Farmer, MacManus, Parker and Sandilands are all names that have been thrown up to get rid of "cause they're effin' useless!", but each one of these guys are just about automatic inclusions.

I just hope we don't end up getting rid of him only to wish we could get him back in a few years once The Wiz has gone. Medders playing as a gun forward pocket in the same side as McPhee, Croad or Simmonds would be a little hard to swallow.
 
On todays performance anyway...he won't be playing next week & more than likely played his last game in the purple.

Would trade him in an instant. I know Port & Melbourne were interested last trade period....

Moloney?
Damon White?
Surjan? - I think Port would want more?
 

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Plugga said:
On todays performance anyway...he won't be playing next week & more than likely played his last game in the purple.

Would trade him in an instant. I know Port & Melbourne were interested last trade period....

Moloney?
Damon White?
Surjan? - I think Port would want more?
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He has been mentioned a few times before.

I missed the last Demons game and can't remember seeing him play.

Can anyone fill me in please??
 
i don't want him gone.
i believe he will be a star.
if you read about medhursts past, he was a very late developer in his game and phisique.
and also came into to AFL late aswell.
pavlich is the same age as paul, but matthew is at his peak.
whereas paul is nowhere near.
reagardless of what club he as at in the next couple of years.
he will, and i am sure of this.
be GREAT.
i agree he has lost it at the moment and needs to find his confidence and work on a few things that have dropped as a result of this confidence and form slump.
he will come good, and it is not far away.
we all know what medders is capale of and if yous don't want him on your team when he is playing his best. you are crazy.
 
I disagree with the idea that the only way for him to get his confidence back is an extended run in the team. I think what he needs is to give himself an almighty kick in the arse and go back to the WAFL and make it impossible for the selectors not to pick him by how well he is playing and how good his attitude is.

At this stage I much rather have players like Hasleby and Headland rotaing through the forward line. Even MacManus. Even Gilmore.

As for getting a second round draft pick for him, I wouldn't give that up to bring him to Freo if he wasn't already on our list.
 
Let me state I have always been a fan of Medhurst and would love to see him regain his form and excel for the dockers. The only reason I started the thread was based on several reports stating his playing days at Fremantle were numbered and with his complete lack of confidence displayed yesterday I believe he would struggle to get a game again this year.

I pray he can turn it around and if he keeps his spot for next week kick 5-6 goals :thumbsu:
 
Cameron_K said:
I pray he can turn it around and if he keeps his spot for next week kick 5-6 goals :thumbsu:
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If that happens, based on yesterdays performance, the match committee should be shot at dawn.
 
surfsup said:
Medders playing as a gun forward pocket in the same side as McPhee, Croad or Simmonds would be a little hard to swallow.
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Surfsup you need to stop living in the past. The recruiting staff have continually improved our list. Trading and players leaving happens as part of that.

What is the role you wouyld have Croad playing, and which player would be dropped for him (MacPharlin, Parker, Johnson, Mundy, Grover)? Don't think I would prefer MacPhee in the team before any of thse players either. Also which player would leave so we can keep under the salary cap?

Simmonds is too good a ruckman to be our third best ruckman. Three ruckman in the team didn't work for us. Matching Richmonds stupid five year deal would have been madness. Who would you drop off the list to accomodate the deal (probably Longmuir as we would need to choose between them as ruckmen)?
 
theGav56 said:
Surfsup you need to stop living in the past. The recruiting staff have continually improved our list. Trading and players leaving happens as part of that.

What is the role you wouyld have Croad playing, and which player would be dropped for him (MacPharlin, Parker, Johnson, Mundy, Grover)? Don't think I would prefer MacPhee in the team before any of thse players either. Also which player would leave so we can keep under the salary cap?

Simmonds is too good a ruckman to be our third best ruckman. Three ruckman in the team didn't work for us. Matching Richmonds stupid five year deal would have been madness. Who would you drop off the list to accomodate the deal (probably Longmuir as we would need to choose between them as ruckmen)?
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Don't think for a minute I want any of those players back in the squad!! I don't have a problem with the players we have given up, it's moreso the verbal diahorrea from certain supporters of other teams that use things like this to have a go.
McPhee wanted to leave so I have no problems there.
Simmonds put too much $$$'s on himself, no loss there.
Croad has improved alot since going back to the Hawks but at the same time I would be hard pressed to find a spot for him at Freo.
White is the only one I have regretted losing even though he fits into the same catagory as McPhee he would've made a handy backup to Sandilands.;)
Anyway, back to the subject, Medhurst......he'll come good.
 
surfsup said:
Don't think for a minute I want any of those players back in the squad!! I don't have a problem with the players we have given up, it's moreso the verbal diahorrea from certain supporters of other teams that use things like this to have a go.
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And they say it at the same time as they talk with envy of our list???? I think our list has improved every year for a while now (4-5 years).
 
Cameron_K said:
I think we are about to witness the final half that Paul Medhurst will ever play for Freo. I feel sorry for the guy because you can see his confidence is shot to bits, where is the guy who would never pass the ball off and go for goals no matter the position on the ground :(
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Babies and bathwater people. Medhurst is a highly talented player who admittedly is at a tough point in his career. He has put in some good performances but has not been finishing the way we all know he is capable of. Think back to the travesty that was the game at the Gabba. Medhurst was one of the few who was worth their salt but he was unable to put it in the scoreboard. He has gone from being a great kick to an absolute shocker but I believe he will turn it around and produce some good footy.
Leave him in the magoos until he regains form by all means but definitely keep him on the list. There are a few I would trade before him.
 
The only person that should decide Medhurst's fate is Medhurst. If he wants to be traded Fremantle should trade him and wish him all the best.
If he wants to stay with Fremantle we should keep him for as long as it takes. The guy is an unusual and unique talent. I'd hate to see him achieve his potential with another Club.
 
I think that Medders & Polly & Jimmy Walker as well are the victims (sort of) of us being so bad in the past and having little depth.

Getting games when there was little competion for spots probably gave them a belief that they were actually better than they actually are and it has come as a bit of a shock that the young blokes have overtaken them.

We saw the same thing happen last year in the midfield with
Cookie & Macca passed by by the young blokes and everyone thought that they were gone.

Cookie and Macca (especially) put their heads done and fought their way back.

Being the competitors they are I expect that the others will do the same.
 

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