thylacine60
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Great post and thanks for taking the time to share. Sometimes I think a mental breakdown can become a breakthrough. Growing pains if you will. Immensly painful, but as you said, sometimes the box we are in just gets way too tight and we endup shattering it. Such a unique process for every person and some go very 'far out' so the little 'I' can grow into a larger more tolerant and accepting one. Some call it a little death. Or a kind of death and rebirth of the ego. some get stuck in different parts of that journey, but get there eventually...others turn back. Some even die physically, so hard is it to change, which is not what we want to see.The issue of mental health can be quite a sensitive topic, especially for those of us who suffer the greatest from it. Much so that it is often very easy for people to lash out at one another for any view regarding it that is even seen to be the slightest bit controversial.
Having suffered from several forms of anxiety and depression, there is no doubt that I have a relatively better understanding of the topic than previously (as will many others who have experienced similar or worse). Of course, that doesn't make me an expert or anything, as I fundamentally believe there is no such thing as experts on mental health. Things like Anxiety and Depression are merely a series of personal challenges. They take whatever form that affects us the most.
My struggles started where most others do during adolescence on the back of educational expectations and societal pressures. The lack of drive and absence of efficient time management skills when it came to school and homework, did see me wreck my health without much control. I wasn't eating as well as I used to and I was slowly becoming both unfit and sleep deprived. They said school was to prepare us for the pressure life throws at us, but I couldn't disagree any more in today's day and age. The education system during my school years was just all talk. The modern curriculum demonstrated a severe disregard for both individual interest as well as the pace of learning. It just kept throwing assignments and homework at us everyday. Despite high praises from my peers and teachers for my growing knowledge, my ATAR ended up at around 32 (which is unable to see me enroll in any university the following year.
I can assure you that there's likely nothing harder in life than school nowadays.
I as a result, decided to take a gap year and try to relieve myself from the damage school did to my health. Didn't bother with car license, employment, etc. because I felt life was going to fast for myself at the time. I'm slow at most things like thinking and motor skills. I require the time to plan what I have to say. At anytime I race against the clock, I get tense, my nerves shake and I end up saying or doing something I'm then made to regret.
All of this was just one form of anxiety I experienced.
Much of what I have suffered in the last three years however, was more intense.
I suffered a severe existential crisis. Not of the "Who am I?" sort, but rather the general "What am I?". Simply questioning life and death. Unsure of what came next. Whether existence was all just a simulation. My brother best described it as being trapped in one's own body. It doesn't sound bad when reading it, but the experience itself for me was without a doubt the lowest point of my life so far. I wasn't sleeping or eating at all. Fear nearly swallowed me whole, that I even for a minute or two questioned whether living meant anything at all and contemplated suicide.
I guess this all hit me really hard because I was still fairly young (22 at the time) and had so much of my life ahead of me.
I even came to believe that mental suffering was contagious after my brother having come home from work one day, experiencing for months this similar demon which I later caught. The only major difference being that he opened up about his struggles and took medication. I hid mine from everyone and refused drugs. It was an extremely risky move (a reckless one too in the eyes of most, and rightly so) but I managed to pull through. What actually cured me was simply facing the cold, hard truth of it all. Sometimes I believe it was a miracle, and other times just reality.
But I like to say now that I locked this demon in a box and threw away the key. I know very well it will never affect me in the same way again.
This is pretty relevant because it is kind of the reason why I am not around here on BigFooty as much as I used to be. Back in 2018, I was having a hard time posting previews, reviews, charts and so on. I couldn't put a lot of effort in then because my mind was all over the place. This whole nadir drained so much of my motivation and passion, that it is still taking quite sometime to regain it all back. I'm still not around here as much, but I am making progress.
Of course, I too have experienced depression, mental breakdowns and other hurdles from the impact of COVID and lockdowns, but those are nothing necessarily special. But incase you are somewhat interested in wanting to know more, you can click the link below and read my blog post about much of my struggles over the past few years (if and when you have time). It does explore my other interests outside of footy and Carlton as well:
Incomplete
NOTE: This was written and published for my Instagram audience mid last year whilst suffering depression. Right now, I am feeling alright if anybody is concerned. But it does share my recent journey with mental and psychological challenges.
All I can say is that having suffered has left me seeing it all in a different light. And I am so much more cautious when it comes to how other people share their stories. Without a doubt, I still believe that the issue of mental health is not being taken more seriously (especially in this past year). I still believe some people are treating using the topic of mental health as a joke and are using it to their advantage (E.g. seeking sympathy for intentional wrongdoings). This is something that I wish could fight against in an effective manner.
Wow, powerful post. Thanks for sharing.The issue of mental health can be quite a sensitive topic, especially for those of us who suffer the greatest from it. Much so that it is often very easy for people to lash out at one another for any view regarding it that is even seen to be the slightest bit controversial.
Having suffered from several forms of anxiety and depression, there is no doubt that I have a relatively better understanding of the topic than previously (as will many others who have experienced similar or worse). Of course, that doesn't make me an expert or anything, as I fundamentally believe there is no such thing as experts on mental health. Things like Anxiety and Depression are merely a series of personal challenges. They take whatever form that affects us the most.
My struggles started where most others do during adolescence on the back of educational expectations and societal pressures. The lack of drive and absence of efficient time management skills when it came to school and homework, did see me wreck my health without much control. I wasn't eating as well as I used to and I was slowly becoming both unfit and sleep deprived. They said school was to prepare us for the pressure life throws at us, but I couldn't disagree any more in today's day and age. The education system during my school years was just all talk. The modern curriculum demonstrated a severe disregard for both individual interest as well as the pace of learning. It just kept throwing assignments and homework at us everyday. Despite high praises from my peers and teachers for my growing knowledge, my ATAR ended up at around 32 (which is unable to see me enroll in any university the following year.
I can assure you that there's likely nothing harder in life than school nowadays.
I as a result, decided to take a gap year and try to relieve myself from the damage school did to my health. Didn't bother with car license, employment, etc. because I felt life was going to fast for myself at the time. I'm slow at most things like thinking and motor skills. I require the time to plan what I have to say. At anytime I race against the clock, I get tense, my nerves shake and I end up saying or doing something I'm then made to regret.
All of this was just one form of anxiety I experienced.
Much of what I have suffered in the last three years however, was more intense.
I suffered a severe existential crisis. Not of the "Who am I?" sort, but rather the general "What am I?". Simply questioning life and death. Unsure of what came next. Whether existence was all just a simulation. My brother best described it as being trapped in one's own body. It doesn't sound bad when reading it, but the experience itself for me was without a doubt the lowest point of my life so far. I wasn't sleeping or eating at all. Fear nearly swallowed me whole, that I even for a minute or two questioned whether living meant anything at all and contemplated suicide.
I guess this all hit me really hard because I was still fairly young (22 at the time) and had so much of my life ahead of me.
I even came to believe that mental suffering was contagious after my brother having come home from work one day, experiencing for months this similar demon which I later caught. The only major difference being that he opened up about his struggles and took medication. I hid mine from everyone and refused drugs. It was an extremely risky move (a reckless one too in the eyes of most, and rightly so) but I managed to pull through. What actually cured me was simply facing the cold, hard truth of it all. Sometimes I believe it was a miracle, and other times just reality.
But I like to say now that I locked this demon in a box and threw away the key. I know very well it will never affect me in the same way again.
This is pretty relevant because it is kind of the reason why I am not around here on BigFooty as much as I used to be. Back in 2018, I was having a hard time posting previews, reviews, charts and so on. I couldn't put a lot of effort in then because my mind was all over the place. This whole nadir drained so much of my motivation and passion, that it is still taking quite sometime to regain it all back. I'm still not around here as much, but I am making progress.
Of course, I too have experienced depression, mental breakdowns and other hurdles from the impact of COVID and lockdowns, but those are nothing necessarily special. But incase you are somewhat interested in wanting to know more, you can click the link below and read my blog post about much of my struggles over the past few years (if and when you have time). It does explore my other interests outside of footy and Carlton as well:
Incomplete
NOTE: This was written and published for my Instagram audience mid last year whilst suffering depression. Right now, I am feeling alright if anybody is concerned. But it does share my recent journey with mental and psychological challenges.
All I can say is that having suffered has left me seeing it all in a different light. And I am so much more cautious when it comes to how other people share their stories. Without a doubt, I still believe that the issue of mental health is not being taken more seriously (especially in this past year). I still believe some people are treating using the topic of mental health as a joke and are using it to their advantage (E.g. seeking sympathy for intentional wrongdoings). This is something that I wish could fight against in an effective manner.
The issue of mental health can be quite a sensitive topic, especially for those of us who suffer the greatest from it. Much so that it is often very easy for people to lash out at one another for any view regarding it that is even seen to be the slightest bit controversial.
Having suffered from several forms of anxiety and depression, there is no doubt that I have a relatively better understanding of the topic than previously (as will many others who have experienced similar or worse). Of course, that doesn't make me an expert or anything, as I fundamentally believe there is no such thing as experts on mental health. Things like Anxiety and Depression are merely a series of personal challenges. They take whatever form that affects us the most.
My struggles started where most others do during adolescence on the back of educational expectations and societal pressures. The lack of drive and absence of efficient time management skills when it came to school and homework, did see me wreck my health without much control. I wasn't eating as well as I used to and I was slowly becoming both unfit and sleep deprived. They said school was to prepare us for the pressure life throws at us, but I couldn't disagree any more in today's day and age. The education system during my school years was just all talk. The modern curriculum demonstrated a severe disregard for both individual interest as well as the pace of learning. It just kept throwing assignments and homework at us everyday. Despite high praises from my peers and teachers for my growing knowledge, my ATAR ended up at around 32 (which is unable to see me enroll in any university the following year.
I can assure you that there's likely nothing harder in life than school nowadays.
I as a result, decided to take a gap year and try to relieve myself from the damage school did to my health. Didn't bother with car license, employment, etc. because I felt life was going to fast for myself at the time. I'm slow at most things like thinking and motor skills. I require the time to plan what I have to say. At anytime I race against the clock, I get tense, my nerves shake and I end up saying or doing something I'm then made to regret.
All of this was just one form of anxiety I experienced.
Much of what I have suffered in the last three years however, was more intense.
I suffered a severe existential crisis. Not of the "Who am I?" sort, but rather the general "What am I?". Simply questioning life and death. Unsure of what came next. Whether existence was all just a simulation. My brother best described it as being trapped in one's own body. It doesn't sound bad when reading it, but the experience itself for me was without a doubt the lowest point of my life so far. I wasn't sleeping or eating at all. Fear nearly swallowed me whole, that I even for a minute or two questioned whether living meant anything at all and contemplated suicide.
I guess this all hit me really hard because I was still fairly young (22 at the time) and had so much of my life ahead of me.
I even came to believe that mental suffering was contagious after my brother having come home from work one day, experiencing for months this similar demon which I later caught. The only major difference being that he opened up about his struggles and took medication. I hid mine from everyone and refused drugs. It was an extremely risky move (a reckless one too in the eyes of most, and rightly so) but I managed to pull through. What actually cured me was simply facing the cold, hard truth of it all. Sometimes I believe it was a miracle, and other times just reality.
But I like to say now that I locked this demon in a box and threw away the key. I know very well it will never affect me in the same way again.
This is pretty relevant because it is kind of the reason why I am not around here on BigFooty as much as I used to be. Back in 2018, I was having a hard time posting previews, reviews, charts and so on. I couldn't put a lot of effort in then because my mind was all over the place. This whole nadir drained so much of my motivation and passion, that it is still taking quite sometime to regain it all back. I'm still not around here as much, but I am making progress.
Of course, I too have experienced depression, mental breakdowns and other hurdles from the impact of COVID and lockdowns, but those are nothing necessarily special. But incase you are somewhat interested in wanting to know more, you can click the link below and read my blog post about much of my struggles over the past few years (if and when you have time). It does explore my other interests outside of footy and Carlton as well:
Incomplete
NOTE: This was written and published for my Instagram audience mid last year whilst suffering depression. Right now, I am feeling alright if anybody is concerned. But it does share my recent journey with mental and psychological challenges.
All I can say is that having suffered has left me seeing it all in a different light. And I am so much more cautious when it comes to how other people share their stories. Without a doubt, I still believe that the issue of mental health is not being taken more seriously (especially in this past year). I still believe some people are treating using the topic of mental health as a joke and are using it to their advantage (E.g. seeking sympathy for intentional wrongdoings). This is something that I wish could fight against in an effective manner.
Great post and thanks for taking the time to share. Sometimes I think a mental breakdown can become a breakthrough. Growing pains if you will. Immensely painful, but as you said, sometimes the box we are in just gets way too tight and we end up shattering it. Such a unique process for every person and some go very 'far out' so the little 'I' can grow into a larger more tolerant and accepting one. Some call it a little death. Or a kind of death and rebirth of the ego. some get stuck in different parts of that journey, but get there eventually...others turn back. Some even die physically, so hard is it to change, which is not what we want to see.
I guess I'm rambling a bit but thinking of Joseph Campbell and his Heroes Journey. A really beneficial and non religious framework to have a look at if anyone is interested.
We don't do well with terminology or ritual for these mental and spiritual growth journeys. We just have to hope we find like minded souls or helpful counsellors /Dr's when we most need them.
I'm just writing my personal view here...and it is looking back and reflecting. In no way am I meaning to trivialise anyone's pain or experience which is unique to them.
Wow, powerful post. Thanks for sharing.
Good on you mate. PM is always open for a chat. That was a heart felt story.
Thanks Tee-Jay. I think a non-judgemental and open attitude to all is paramount.All is worth sharing for the benefit of others.
I like to think that anybody can help somebody suffering. Not just family or friends. Not just doctors or psychologists either. All one needs is somebody willing to take their time to listen should they open themselves up. Those who deal with similar obstacles are too a means of support.
And TRUST is a vital tool. Ideally we shouldn't immediately trust anybody. I don't think I'm to immediately be trusted with what I share either. That of course isn't saying everybody including myself is a liar. But the importance of reading into one's efforts and attention to detail is being ignored. The greatest assurance comes from how much we invest our time into sharing our lives and experiences with others.
I mean should we sit here and "take somebody's word for it", when all they say is 'I've suffered anxiety and depression. It is tough. I hope everyone understands.'?
Glad you see it that way. Thank you.
I appreciate that. Thank you.
I am doing just fine at this time. Just saw this thread and thought of taking the opportunity to share a small part of my journey to further validate my sincerity.
Thanks Tee-Jay. I think a non-judgemental and open attitude to all is paramount.
It isn't for us to decide about sincerity or impose our personal 'way out' on anyone who suffers and whom we want to help. We won't often see if we helped or not either. Unconditional openess to the pain of others and being present for them. That is a great gift for anyone to experience. All humans are worthy of that. Let's be honest...Sometimes dogs do it a whole lot better. They listen, and occassionaly offer a friendly paw.
But really wanting to help and share...having suffered ourselves, we have empathy. The reason someone needs to be heard should never have conditions put on it. (Imho)
Hey ODN, this is really great.
Maybe pure coincidence that i stumbled on this, but the timing couldn’t have been more perfect. Am probably going through one of the more difficult times right now and am a little lost to be honest. If there’s still room i’d love to be part of it.
Yep, me too...for both things.There should always be room. If not, I'll step out and you can have a space.
Feel free to drop a PM if you ever want an ear.
Thoughts on increased coffee consumption of the population leading to an increase in mental health issues like anxiety
(Mild cases, not clinical depression stuff)
Caffeine is not great for anxiety,being a stimulant it can fuel things.Thoughts on increased coffee consumption of the population leading to an increase in mental health issues like anxiety
(Mild cases, not clinical depression stuff)
Don't know what's going on, but am willing to listen.Hey ODN, this is really great.
Maybe pure coincidence that i stumbled on this, but the timing couldn’t have been more perfect. Am probably going through one of the more difficult times right now and am a little lost to be honest. If there’s still room i’d love to be part of it.
Not a lot I would say.Thoughts on increased coffee consumption of the population leading to an increase in mental health issues like anxiety
(Mild cases, not clinical depression stuff)
Unfortunately, it seems that the tumour is a result of the long term stress and anxiety (depression) I suffered from 2011 to 2018. The tumour itself was 7mm in size when it was discovered after I went in and wanted a heap of blood tests done and got referred to a urologist, who did a heap more blood tests and found the results pointed to my pituitary gland and had a MRI done (those things are tight when you have 2 foot wide shoulders) which discovered the tumour. I'm now under the care of an endocrinologist.Dramoth
That is quite the journey you are on mate. I feel for you big time. Can't help wondering if the tumour itself played havoc on the pituitary gland causing it to go haywire. Chicken or egg I guess. I salute your courage in dealing with this.
I went onto anti-depressents which don't seem to have done anything to help me... which now knowing what I know, could explain a lot.
I find that a lot of pshrinks are only too happy to put people onto anti-depressents rather than trying to look through symptoms and address the causes.There are heaps of different anti-depressants.
My first one I tried made me sick, zone out and a danger to myself while I was at work. I had a massive accident and was extremely luck to have not died. It also make my guy bits not work. So I changed till I found one that works for me.
I don’t like being on them and I feel a fair bit of shame about taking them. Like I’m such a broken person I can’t function without them. I went off them without telling anyone, and my behaviour became pretty erratic, my major depression was quickly returning. My partner got very scared, in a short period of time, about my safety and self harm issues (never about me hurting others).
So I went back on. She asked me to and I know no matter what she has my best interests at heart, and I trust her completely. At my worst I was quite paranoid and didn’t trust even my family, who I now know only wanted me to be healthy.
Once I started on my meds again, I was pretty quickly back to a normal life.
Only last week, I accidentally stopped taking them (partner was away, so I started skipping breakfast and forgetting to take them). I started drinking heaps, generally not looking after myself. I don’t really notice a change but my partner knew as soon as she came back. I was anxious, becoming erratic and withdrawn from any interaction with other people. She helped me to get back to taking them and I’m getting back on the level.
I still hate taking them, but know I need to as there is a big dark hole waiting to swallow me up if I stop right now.