Research Missing DOD or DOB for League players (AFL)

[killer]

"Recruited from South Australia mainly to play cricket, but was diverted to Perth..."
- Redlegs to Demons

 

[GreyCrow]

Footscrays Peter Castrikum born Feb 19 1943

I went looking and found a too coincidental death in Lismore NSW

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/n...d/news-story/ff9013157ce0bbe47afc4a39cb0ca9be

His grave plaque says Feb 25 - which is 6 days later

Can anyone confirm this is the same person - there was nothing in the notice to suggest he played Football - I just think the coincidental name similarity is one to investigate further



ThePope Oliver G

Hmm probably is a coincidental name

It was a shock to Mr Castrikum - once an avid rugby and tennis player.

 

[GreyCrow]

Raymond George Broadway - Full name - BROADWAY. _ Raymond George 26.1.1938 - 17.1.2015 Aged 76 years

BROADWAY. _ Ray. The President, Committee and Members of the Footscray/ Western Bulldogs Past Players and Officials Association sincerely regret the loss of our respected member. We extend our sincerest sympathy to Joy and family.

Both Herald Sun

Oliver G

ThePope

 

[ThePope]

Footscrays Peter Castrikum born Feb 19 1943

I went looking and found a too coincidental death in Lismore NSW

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/n...d/news-story/ff9013157ce0bbe47afc4a39cb0ca9be

His grave plaque says Feb 25 - which is 6 days later

Hmm probably is a coincidental name

It was a shock to Mr Castrikum - once an avid rugby and tennis player.

I'm thinking it's the same guy.
I've reached out to Gigs on bluesky if he's got any more info, being a Dogs fan/historian.
Date - born in a POW camp it could be date born vs date registered?
Rugby - it was a Lismore story - he may have said "footy" and the NSW bias in the reporter changed it to the wrong code.
The kicker for me is his Facebook page says "from Melton, Victoria", which is his original team in the Wikipedia infobox.

 

[RedmanWasHere]

The kicker for me is his Facebook page says "from Melton, Victoria", which is his original team in the Wikipedia infobox.

If it is him who's died, his most recent post might be the cause of his death.

 

[Oliver G]

I'm thinking it's the same guy.
I've reached out to Gigs on bluesky if he's got any more info, being a Dogs fan/historian.
Date - born in a POW camp it could be date born vs date registered?
Rugby - it was a Lismore story - he may have said "footy" and the NSW bias in the reporter changed it to the wrong code.
The kicker for me is his Facebook page says "from Melton, Victoria", which is his original team in the Wikipedia infobox.

I agree, the Facebook Peter Castrikum is clearly the same person who is in the article. The NAA have him as being born on 25th February 1943 with the family migrating to Australia from the Netherlands in 1954 arriving in Melbourne. I haven't been able to find any reference to Melton other than the Facebook page, but the parents ended up in Queensland in later life.

 

[GreyCrow]

I'm thinking it's the same guy.
I've reached out to Gigs on bluesky if he's got any more info, being a Dogs fan/historian.
Date - born in a POW camp it could be date born vs date registered?
Rugby - it was a Lismore story - he may have said "footy" and the NSW bias in the reporter changed it to the wrong code.
The kicker for me is his Facebook page says "from Melton, Victoria", which is his original team in the Wikipedia infobox.

Yeah I was 99% convinced but needed other eyes to look and maybe someone with that last bit of info

 

[GreyCrow]

I agree, the Facebook Peter Castrikum is clearly the same person who is in the article. The NAA have him as being born on 25th February 1943 with the family migrating to Australia from the Netherlands in 1954 arriving in Melbourne. I haven't been able to find any reference to Melton other than the Facebook page, but the parents ended up in Queensland in later life.

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Interesting that Gerhardus dies in SA

CASTRIKUM

Gerhardus Johannes

16-Feb-1988

71

M

801A/1652

 

[Oliver G]

Interesting that Gerhardus dies in SA

CASTRIKUM

Gerhardus Johannes

16-Feb-1988

71

M

801A/1652

Yeah sorry, only the mother ended up in QLD, but I seem to have found the family home which was in Bacchus Marsh, which lines up with Peter playing for Melton. The question now what is the original source for the 19/02/1943 birth date.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/237152129/25536140

 

[35Daicos]

I agree, the Facebook Peter Castrikum is clearly the same person who is in the article. The NAA have him as being born on 25th February 1943 with the family migrating to Australia from the Netherlands in 1954 arriving in Melbourne. I haven't been able to find any reference to Melton other than the Facebook page, but the parents ended up in Queensland in later life.

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This will be his sister: https://www.facebook.com/wilhelmina.castrikum?locale=en_GB

Brother Theo died in Queensland a few years back:

Indeed, sorting out the DOB issue for Peter may not be easy!

 

[ThePope]

Indeed, sorting out the DOB issue for Peter may not be easy!

Sorting our the source of the V/AFL DOB will be hard, but we have a NAA immigration form and the headstone that both indicate that he used the 25th as his DOB. In my view that is enough to convince the AFL that it is the date he used - both an official form and a private record.

It might be that he was actually born on the 19th, and early in life his parents celebrated that, but as he got older, it was just easier to delay it a few days to not cause confusion with the official date on his licence/passport etc (which all relied on the immigration form).
If you told me that I was actually born 6 days earlier than what is on my licence, I doubt I'd bother to change it now.

Or it could just be another ancient VFL transcribing error.

 

[Colleena]

Hi - been research Alfred Carl Frank Briggs for 17;years along with his whole clan - just so you know he marries at least another once possible two - his last known article is do with an accident 1951 which Ivy is in and Milton Kenneth is injured ( Milton is looking like being an adopted son - great article about him coming back after the war to play for Miners Rovers and winning so many premierships and trophies - we will find him cheers

Hi Tony Munday, My name is Colleena and Alf Neeson was my biological father. I was born to Alf and Dorry in 1949. I have the whole story of Alf and Ivy and much about his football and army career. I have a hope of confirming his DOD which I am working on now. Milton (who passed away on the 10 Jan this year was Alf and Ivy's adopted son. I am the Alf's only biological child
if you which to contact me email maxco2@bigpond.com. I'd love to hear from you and fill in a bit of information.

 

[GreyCrow]

Hi Tony Munday, My name is Colleena and Alf Neeson was my biological father. I was born to Alf and Dorry in 1949. I have the whole story of Alf and Ivy and much about his football and army career. I have a hope of confirming his DOD which I am working on now. Milton (who passed away on the 10 Jan this year was Alf and Ivy's adopted son. I am the Alf's only biological child
if you which to contact me email maxco2@bigpond.com. I'd love to hear from you and fill in a bit of information.

rbartlett Oliver G ThePope