MRP “medium impact” my ass!

[FR0GGY]

I'm pretty sure that rule the ball needed to be on the ground but this ball was mid air when kicked? I was pretty confused by it

Rule 18.3.i
kicks or attempts to kick the football in a manner likely to cause injury.

 

[Mutineer]

Cerra gets off

 

[1990crow]

Cerra gets off

Checks club. Ah, yes.

 

[FR0GGY]

Here we go, opening and closing statement:

A reasonable player who does not pin the arms is entitled to consider the opponent who has the opportunity to protect themselves will avail themselves of that opportunity

Mic drop

 

[dplggr47]

People are saying Laird pinned Neale's arm so there's no case to contest. If they agree that the arm was pinned, there's no way he's getting off. I can't tell from the vision, because it looks like the arm wasn't fully pinned.

 

[1990crow]

People are saying Laird pinned Neale's arm so there's no case to contest. If they agree that the arm was pinned, there's no way he's getting off. I can't tell from the vision, because it looks like the arm wasn't fully pinned.

There’s no way he pinned the arm. That just didn’t happen it’s clear on the vision.
The AFL im sure will use the potential to cause injury clause though because it’s us.

 

[Rory Walkerfield]

Neale has both arms free.

 

[El Doederino]

Checks club. Ah, yes.

Who had Carlton on their “who will be the first club to win an appeal for a dangerous tackle suspension” bingo card?

Oh right yes, we all did.

 

[Mutineer]

The Crows have pleaded not guilty to rough conduct. If it is, the Crows argue impact should be reduced to low. Laird won't give evidence.

 

[El Doederino]

The Crows have pleaded not guilty to rough conduct. If it is, the Crows argue impact should be reduced to low. Laird won't give evidence.

The AFL has argued that Laird plays for the Crows

 

[Mutineer]

The Crows say Laird tries to slow momentum of Neale and Laird is a passenger to Neale's momentum for much of the tackle.

The Crows add Neale's right arm is not restrained in any way except for him cradling the football.

 

[MarcusP2]

Cerra gets off

Stop trying to make Carlton happen. It's not going to happen!

 

[ams4crows]

The Crows say Laird tries to slow momentum of Neale and Laird is a passenger to Neale's momentum for much of the tackle.

The Crows add Neale's right arm is not restrained in any way except for him cradling the football.

That's true, but they basically have to repeat what Carlton said, why do their lawyers constantly get their players off??

 

[Mutineer]

Crows' five points:
- Laird tries to slow momentum
- Laird initially passenger to momentum rather than driver

• Laird brings Neale on top of himself
• Neale's arms aren't pinned
• - Neale's head contact with ground is sideways momentum rather than downward.

 

[Mutineer]

The Crows also point to Luke Pedlar adding to the momentum during this incident by pushing Neale during the tackle.

Andrew Culshaw (Crows): This tackle cannot properly be described as unreasonable.

LOL

Hey David it's Rory Laird

29

Rory Laird

Age

30

Ht

177cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

25.4

5star

K

12.9

5star

HB

12.5

5star

M

5.4

5star

T

2.3

4star

CL

1.0

3star

D

19.6

5star

K

10.9

4star

HB

8.7

4star

M

3.4

3star

T

2.4

3star

CL

1.1

3star

D

14.6

4star

K

7.4

3star

HB

7.2

5star

M

3.2

4star

T

4.0

5star

CL

0.4

3star

..

 

[El Doederino]

The AFL now going on about an 8 foot Wookiee and some place called Endor

 

[Mutineer]

The Tribunal is now deliberating.

 

[ams4crows]

Wish we blamed Neale for not having a duty of care for himself

 

[croweater 41]

The Crows also point to Luke Pedlar adding to the momentum during this incident by pushing Neale during the tackle.

Andrew Culshaw (Crows): This tackle cannot properly be described as unreasonable.

LOL

Hey David it's Rory Laird..

I don’t like the Pedlar addition into the argument. Pedlars involvement in the tackle/force onto Neale is 0 at best. He was near the contest but he didn’t do anything in the contest.

 

[Mutineer]

I don’t like the Pedlar addition into the argument. Pedlars involvement in the tackle/force onto Neale is 0 at best. He was near the contest but he didn’t do anything in the contest.

And guess what gets trotted out...

Flynn (AFL): What is important is the potential to cause injury ... there can be innocuous contact with the ground that results in concussion.

 

[Betts are off]

The clubs pay for it 5k every time for an appeal

I would have thought that money would get eaten up with all the red tape the AFL are forced to do to govern and contest each appeal. TBH I would think it would get eaten up plus a substantial chunk.

 

[croweater 41]

And guess what gets trotted out...

Flynn (AFL): What is important is the potential to cause injury ... there can be innocuous contact with the ground that results in concussion.

Buzz words of first 3 months of footy. A bit like hamstring awareness a few years ago.

The Oliver tackle that is in the Laird thread on main board MRP forum has a significant potential to cause injury but he has the Victorian discount.

 

[croweater 41]

For reference above

A reminder that this was also let off. Look at how much more force was involved in that one. Zero consistency

 

[ams4crows]

Crows Lawyer is terrible, you need to use their wording against them, logic doesn't work.

Carlton's lawyer was heaps better at arguing the point

 

[PeterSalt]

Rory's gone .. they made the decision earlier today