MRP / Trib. MRP 2019

[yoong]

Christian literally said weeks ago that someone would have to go off the ground and for a considerable time for something to be graded medium impact (post Wilson incident). quite literally 4 weeks later the duman incident happens. It’s simply maddeningly inconsistent and based on the table they go by it shouldn’t have been 2 weeks. You can’t tell me that’s medium impact.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-03-25/kanga-free-to-play-after-gut-punch-seven-more-fined-

"He would certainly need to go off the ground (for it to be graded medium impact) … and for a considerable time," Christian told AFL.com.au's The Verdict.
"In terms of our four grades – low, medium, high and severe – medium would be off the ground for a significant amount of time, perhaps even a concussion test.

Actually, it’s more complicated than that. The following week, Dusty elbowed a GWS player in the head and MRP gave it a “medium” using the infamous “potential to cause serious injury”. Then this got overturned into a “low” at tribunal after Richmond challenged.

I actually don’t like all these striking off the ball and it needs to stop. And I’m actually ok if they decided that an intentional hit to the head is worth 2 weeks.
Problem is that the pass weeks they have already let a whole bunch of players get away with a fine (for body) and 1 week (for high contact). Now that it’s an interstate player let’s “slap him with a 2 weeks as an example” doesn’t sit well with me.

 

[Van_Dyke]

I actually don’t like all these striking off the ball and it needs to stop. And I’m actually ok if they decided that an intentional hit to the head is worth 2 weeks.
Problem is that the pass weeks they have already let a whole bunch of players get away with a fine (for body) and 1 week (for high contact). Now that it’s an interstate player let’s “slap him with a 2 weeks as an example” doesn’t sit well with me.

Yeah I completely agree, I’d have no issue if they simply said and consistently applied a penalty for off the ball hits like what Duman did and they specified so at the start of the season but given what they have done so far it shouldn’t be 2 weeks.

 

[Freo Dr]

Actually, it’s more complicated than that. The following week, Dusty elbowed a GWS player in the head and MRP gave it a “medium” using the infamous “potential to cause serious injury”. Then this got overturned into a “low” at tribunal after Richmond challenged.

I actually don’t like all these striking off the ball and it needs to stop. And I’m actually ok if they decided that an intentional hit to the head is worth 2 weeks.
Problem is that the pass weeks they have already let a whole bunch of players get away with a fine (for body) and 1 week (for high contact). Now that it’s an interstate player let’s “slap him with a 2 weeks as an example” doesn’t sit well with me.

Exactly. Taylin Duman? Never heard of him so slap with him 2 weeks. Dangerfield/Martin other big name we go softly softly.

 

[Beak_A]

Christian literally said weeks ago that someone would have to go off the ground and for a considerable time for something to be graded medium impact (post Wilson incident). quite literally 4 weeks later the duman incident happens. It’s simply maddeningly inconsistent and based on the table they go by it shouldn’t have been 2 weeks. You can’t tell me that’s medium impact.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-03-25/kanga-free-to-play-after-gut-punch-seven-more-fined-

"He would certainly need to go off the ground (for it to be graded medium impact) … and for a considerable time," Christian told AFL.com.au's The Verdict.
"In terms of our four grades – low, medium, high and severe – medium would be off the ground for a significant amount of time, perhaps even a concussion test.

Thanks fir posting that I thought Christian had gone to great lengths to spell that out somewhere. Fekkin eejit

Surely, given Christian’s own statements the club had to challenge



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[TheMcManusNose]

Yeah challenge based on that.

Honestly I think it's fair - it's a pretty blatant strike to the face.

Wouldn't mind seeing the inconsistency held to account though.

 

[kingswood71]

Looking at the example videos given by the AFL in the 2019 Tribunal guideline (Parsons on hodge and Howe on Cripps), its 2 weeks.
Live and learn. Move on. Dont punch people.

 

[basashi]

The issue is not that this sentence is harsh, the issue is the unjustified lenience given out to other players. Especially famous players.

 

[purplerunsdeep2]

It’s a 10k hit to challenge it? No loss really


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[MadMundy]

Eh i reckon just leave it, Duman is a decent player but I reckon we can manage a couple of weeks without him. Take the 2 weeks, and then bring back Blakely this week, if he's fit you play him, there's no question about it.

 

[estibador]

Surely, given Christian’s own statements the club had to challenge

I want us to challenge not because I even care about the penalty, but because I want to see Christian squirm while he tries to explain away his blatantly contradictory statements.

Someone has to start holding this crap to account.

 

[salim malik]

A club can challenge with out further sanctions, is that right?

 

[Beak_A]

I want us to challenge not because I even care about the penalty, but because I want to see Christian squirm while he tries to explain away his blatantly contradictory statements.

Someone has to start holding this crap to account.

Absolutely


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[BlueE]

Christian literally said weeks ago that someone would have to go off the ground and for a considerable time for something to be graded medium impact (post Wilson incident). quite literally 4 weeks later the duman incident happens. It’s simply maddeningly inconsistent and based on the table they go by it shouldn’t have been 2 weeks. You can’t tell me that’s medium impact.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-03-25/kanga-free-to-play-after-gut-punch-seven-more-fined-

"He would certainly need to go off the ground (for it to be graded medium impact) … and for a considerable time," Christian told AFL.com.au's The Verdict.
"In terms of our four grades – low, medium, high and severe – medium would be off the ground for a significant amount of time, perhaps even a concussion test.

Agree. Freo have to support their player here and point out inconsistencies.

 

[yoong]

I want us to challenge not because I even care about the penalty, but because I want to see Christian squirm while he tries to explain away his blatantly contradictory statements.

Someone has to start holding this crap to account.

https://m.afl.com.au/video/2019-03-25/why-key-saint-and-roo-are-free-to-play-in-r2

Yeah. I also want to know why when a Freo player got hit and down for a while it’s a low. He needs to be carried off the ground to be a medium impact. But when its a hit by a Freo play, this is not the case any more.

 

[Okinakashi]

Deserves a game, but no way on earth that's medium impact. Doubt we'll challenge though.

Will be interesting to see if we challenge, now our Head of Footy is a lawyer.

 

[rgauci]

We are challenging!!!!!!

 

[Freo]

Will be interesting to see if we challenge, now our Head of Footy is a lawyer.

Has a law degree, not a lawyer.

 

[theGav56]

We are challenging!!!!!!

I think that is good because the whole area needs to be consistent, and for now, that means challenging when it isn't. Maybe they need a blanket rule and penalty to start off with, then adjust for severity.

 

[Cobbler]

Again I know I’ll be laughed at but if Duman’s is graded as it is why isn’t Whitfield sited?

Intentional - body - medium impact?

It’s literally the same force. They are both pushing.

 

[UYD 4 Life]

Again I know I’ll be laughed at but if Duman’s is graded as it is why isn’t Whitfield sited?

Intentional - body - medium impact?

It’s literally the same force. They are both pushing.

I imagine impact is more related to the damage done than the force exerted.

I agree with everyone else that i would be happy for 2 weeks if the precedence wasn't a fine or 1 week. They should do something like double the points for any behind the play hits

 

[freo_leo29]

Again I know I’ll be laughed at but if Duman’s is graded as it is why isn’t Whitfield sited?

Intentional - body - medium impact?

It’s literally the same force. They are both pushing.

yep spot on

Duman's hit came off the shoulder too so a lot of the force would have gone through that anyway

 

[Docker82]

I think that this incident should be worth two weeks tbh.

It hasn’t been until now this season though and for that reason it’s probably worth challenging.

And Whitfield should’ve got a fine or a week for the previous hit/s. Let’s stamp this shite out of the game. FWIW Gaff is a flog and should take the consequences for the result of his punch but if he’d get a week for the same punch to Brayshaw’s stomach then is his punch happening in the first place - fat chance.

 

[FreoGirl]

Glad we are challenging! Shows Duman he is valued by the club, and that we believe the tribunal is inconsistent


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[Joao]

We should treat all players exactly the same. Duman or Fyfe it doesn't matter. If we think the decision is wrong, we should challenge it.

 

[wayToGo_]

Bloody ridiculous! Duman didn't bring his Year 7 Maths teacher nor his u10s footy coach along to his tribunal hearing. #amateurhour