List Mgmt. NGA, Father son watch

[WeeBlake]

The AFLs approach to the problem of declining Aboriginal draftee numbers is completely backwards. JUH, or NWM, or other top 20 picks were always going to get on a list. Allowing the NGA clubs to get the highest rated Aboriginal players will make no difference. It’s the lower ranked players, the ones coming from further back, that need better support. But how do you think the clubs will spend their (meagre) NGA resources? On the best prospects, or on the marginal ones, the ones who are harder work and need more support?

The whole thing is a joke. The AFL, not the clubs, has all the money. The AFL should do a broad-based Aboriginal development program itself, and abolish the NGAs completely.

 

[Bazz_27]

The AFLs approach to the problem of declining Aboriginal draftee numbers is completely backwards. JUH, or NWM, or other top 20 picks were always going to get on a list. Allowing the NGA clubs to get the highest rated Aboriginal players will make no difference. It’s the lower ranked players, the ones coming from further back, that need better support. But how do you think the clubs will spend their (meagre) NGA resources? On the best prospects, or on the marginal ones, the ones who are harder work and need more support?

The whole thing is a joke. The AFL, not the clubs, has all the money. The AFL should do a broad-based Aboriginal development program itself, and abolish the NGAs completely.

I'm sure the clubs could see the value in putting resources into kids that they could pick up as rookies (any NGA not picked up in draft can automatically be listed as a rookie). For sure they would primarily focus on the best kids but that is the system. There is enough incentives for the kids, they have to buy in as well

 

[Mutineer]

I'm sure the clubs could see the value in putting resources into kids that they could pick up as rookies (any NGA not picked up in draft can automatically be listed as a rookie). For sure they would primarily focus on the best kids but that is the system. There is enough incentives for the kids, they have to buy in as well

Need a deal like the Suns got with the NT indigenous talent.....extra list spots made available for it to work.

 

[Mutineer]

I'm not entirely sure. I'm fairly sure there's still the restriction on eligibility to be a draftable academy player vs an honorary academy player.
Just now you can draft them wherever, doesn't need to be from pick 40 onwards.
Happy to be proven wrong on that though.

E.g. Wanganeen Milera would still not be available to us, but Keeler would have.

I am that's a big NO.

Keeler, the same as Newchurch were from Pt.Augusta which is our NGA zone.

City born/based indigenous lads like Wanganeen -Milera/Rankine etc aren't in any NGA (indigenous) zones...Benny Barrett is only eligible to Port because of his New Guinean heritage i.e. he's not of Australian indigenous heritage, same deal with Borlase for us being born in Eygpt.

 

[Haggas]

I'm 100 percent sure that's right.

Why couldn’t we get nwm then

I'm not 100% sure who and who doesn't qualify to be an NGA player for either of us though. Is it all indigenous players and how long do they have to be in our academy for us to have access to them come draft

 

[1990crow]

I am that's a big NO.

Keeler, the same as Newchurch were from Pt.Augusta which is our NGA zone.

City born/based indigenous lads like Wanganeen -Milera/Rankine etc aren't in any NGA (indigenous) zones...Benny Barrett is only eligible to Port because of his New Guinean heritage i.e. he's not of Australian indigenous heritage, same deal with Borlase for us being born in Eygpt.

That's what I said.

 

[bigman]

I am that's a big NO.

Keeler, the same as Newchurch were from Pt.Augusta which is our NGA zone.

City born/based indigenous lads like Wanganeen -Milera/Rankine etc aren't in any NGA (indigenous) zones...Benny Barrett is only eligible to Port because of his New Guinean heritage i.e. he's not of Australian indigenous heritage, same deal with Borlase for us being born in Eygpt.

How is that young boy from Port Augusta going bicks that you told us about earlier in the year?

 

[Chief Crow]

Power, Saints, North father-sons invited to state Combine - https://www.afl.com.au/news/1190731

Looks like Welsh only invited to local state combine. Might actually get him as a rookie with such a deep draft at this stage

 

[bigman]

Saw a piece on afl website today that with imminent arrival of Tasmania into the AFL that the AFL will be doing the following

"Given the impending arrival of Tasmania – and with North Melbourne currently having access to the state's talent in its Next Generation Academy – the AFL has also committed to reviewing the zoning criteria ahead of next season.

"It is something we're committing to review, both the zones and the eligibility criteria for NGA players. We'll commit to having that in place for the 2025 national draft," the League's head of football performance Ned Guy said"

 

[Mutineer]

Power, Saints, North father-sons invited to state Combine - https://www.afl.com.au/news/1190731

Looks like Welsh only invited to local state combine. Might actually get him as a rookie with such a deep draft at this stage

I think it would be very dangerous to not nominate him F/S for the National Draft on the chance he slips to the rookie draft(not happening IMO).

 

[BRL121]

I think it would be very dangerous to not nominate him F/S for the National Draft on the chance he slips to the rookie draft(not happening IMO).

Why would we not nominate him? We just have to hope that he drifts to undrafted and can then prelist him for the rookie draft, can we not?

 

[Mutineer]

Why would we not nominate him? We just have to hope that he drifts to undrafted and can then prelist him for the rookie draft, can we not?

I have absolutely no doubt we'll be nominating him for the National Draft.

 

[Mutineer]

Why would we not nominate him? We just have to hope that he drifts to undrafted and can then prelist him for the rookie draft, can we not?

Draft bidding and future picks revamp on hold, 'Jamarra rule' to change

The AFL Commission has approved a raft of player movement rule changes to come in over the next three seasons

www.afl.com.au

Current rules mean clubs have to nominate before the national draft if a player will be a national or rookie father-son, with the tweak giving more scope to make decisions during the live draft.

 

[BRL121]

Draft bidding and future picks revamp on hold, 'Jamarra rule' to change

The AFL Commission has approved a raft of player movement rule changes to come in over the next three seasons

www.afl.com.au

Current rules mean clubs have to nominate before the national draft if a player will be a national or rookie father-son, with the tweak giving more scope to make decisions during the live draft.

That's the current rules. The 2024 tweak, I believe, means that, if undrafted, we could prelist him in the Rookie draft.
Happy to be corrected, if wrong.

 

[Mutineer]

That's the current rules. The 2024 tweak, I believe, means that, if undrafted, we could prelist him in the Rookie draft.
Happy to be corrected, if wrong.

Either way I would expect we nominate him just like Levi Ashcoft will be a Lion.

 

[BRL121]

Either way I would expect we nominate him just like Levi Ashcoft will be a Lion.

Of course. It just makes it clear that, if we want him, we will get him, and at little cost.

 

[Mutineer]

Good sign for Mitch Stevens that he's been selected for the U17's trial for Vic Country who play NSW/ACT at 10.45AM AEST Saturday at Avalon Oval. In the other game Vic Metro play Qld. Do well in these trials usually leads to being selected in the U17's Grand Final day curtain raiser. Live stream at the link.

Vic Country​

#	NAME	SURNAME	HT	STATE PROGRAM	COMMUNITY CLUB
1	Archie	Taylor	178	GWV Rebels	Cobden
2	Hugo	Mikunda	179	Geelong Falcons	Bell Park
3	Brodie	Atkins	181	Gippsland Power	Drouin
4	Zachary	O'Keefe	177	Gippsland Power	Maffra
5	Josh	Lindsay	182	Geelong Falcons	Newtown & Chilwell
6	Toby	Sinnema	179	Dandenong Stingrays	Devon Meadows
7	Sam	Niklaus	183	GWV Rebels	Warrnambool
9	Hunter	Wright	187	Bendigo Pioneers	Golden Square
10	Riley	Hilliard	186	Dandenong Stingrays	Beaconsfield
11	Quinn	Harvey	188	Dandenong Stingrays	Langwarrin
12	Archie	Leclerc	190	Dandenong Stingrays	Carrum Patterson Lakes
13	Jesse	Mellor	186	Geelong Falcons	Geelong West Giants
14	Nate	Marchant	189	Dandenong Stingrays	Mount Martha
15	Ben	Coote	191	Geelong Falcons	Ocean Grove
16	Jobe	Scapin	187	Gippsland Power	Inverloch-Kongwak
17	Wil	Bennett	191	Bendigo Pioneers	Swan Hill
18	Mitchell	Stevens	184	Gippsland Power	Heyfield
20	Cooper	Glenwright- McGuane	188	GWV Rebels	East Point
21	Geordie	Richardson	186	Geelong Falcons	Geelong Amateur
22	Oliver	Johnston	194	Geelong Falcons	Newtown & Chilwell
23	Josh	Granger	196	Dandenong Stingrays	Bonbeach YCW
24	Shaun	Watson	193	Bendigo Pioneers	Mildura
25	Fraser	Marino	195	Dandenong Stingrays	Bonbeach YCW
26	Tairon	Ah-Mu	198	Dandenong Stingrays	Berwick

NSW/ACT​

#	NAME	SURNAME	HT	STATE PROGRAM	COMMUNITY CLUB
1	Lachlan	Carmichael	182	Sydney Swans Academy	Mosman Swans North Shore Bombers
2	Jake	Fairman	175	GWS Giants Academy	Ganmain Grong Grong Matong
3	Ned	Hardman	175	Sydney Swans Academy	Mosman Swans North Shore Bombers
4	Louis	Jans	180	Sydney Swans Academy	Manly Warringah Wolves
5	Lachlan	Moresi	179	GWS Giants Academy	Ainslie Tricolours
6	Ty	Shepherd	183	GWS Giants Academy	Eastlake
7	Jack	Warden	178	GWS Giants Academy	Mangoplah Cookardinia United Eastlakes
8	Cody	Gardiner	178	Murray Bushrangers	North Albury
10	Noah	Chamberlain	191	Sydney Swans Academy	East Sydney UNSW Eastern Suburbs
11	Kaiden	McNamara	186	Sydney Swans Academy	Terrigal-Avoca Panthers
12	Lucien	Sennitt	185	Sydney Swans Academy	East Sydney UNSW Eastern Suburbs
13	Harrison	Wilson	187	Murray Bushrangers	Lavington Panthers
14	Ryder	Corrigan	185	Murray Bushrangers	Lavington Panthers
15	Jim	Houston	194	GWS Giants Academy	Hay Pennant Hills Demons
16	Max	King	191	Sydney Swans Academy	Cardiff Hawks
17	Jarvis	Hemmings	180	GWS Giants Academy	Willoughby North Shore Bombers
18	Oscar	Clifton	196	Sydney Swans Academy	East Sydney UNSW Eastern Suburbs
22	Bailey-Dean	Latanis	182	GWS Giants Academy	Ingleburn South West Sydney
23	Riley	Hayman	183	GWS Giants Academy	Kellyville/Rouse Hill East Coast Eagles
24	Lenny	Koller	195	Murray Bushrangers	Albury
25	Riley	Hansen	191	GWS Giants Academy	Belconnen
26	Liam	Hetherton	194	Murray Bushrangers	North Albury
30	Reeve	Simmons	197	Sydney Swans Academy	Killarney Vale Cardiff Hawks

 

[Mutineer]

Match starting in 15 minutes for those interested in getting a look at the Crows next Father/Son prospect Mitch Stevens. Stream at the link above.

 

[1990crow]

Match starting in 15 minutes for those interested in getting a look at the Crows next Father/Son prospect Mitch Stevens. Stream at the link above.

Cheers. Might catch the second half

 

[Mutineer]

Cheers. Might catch the second half

Looks to be playing HBF early

 

[Rory Walkerfield]

Looks to be playing HBF early

Geez it’s hard to follow without commentary.

 

[Mutineer]

Half time VC by a point.
Very scrappy game, NSW/ACT lads look to be more physically developed to my eye probably because most are from the Swans/GWS Academies.

Mitch Stevens has taken a couple of decent marks and had a few touches, still lightly built and looks like he'll be a smaller unit than his old man Mark....kicking looks very decent.

 

[WeeBlake]

Today on the AFL website I read Jed Walter (GC academy) is from a footy-following WA family

 

[FR0GGY]

Today on the AFL website I read Jed Walter (GC academy) is from a footy-following WA family

You could have read that last year

 

[Mutineer]

One thing out of this match...The Swans have another absolute star coming their way in Max King

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Max King

Age

24

Ht

202cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.3

2star

K

4.7

2star

HB

2.6

2star

M

2.7

3star

T

0.7

3star

G

1.4

5star

D

7.3

2star

K

4.7

2star

HB

2.6

2star

M

2.7

3star

T

0.7

1star

G

1.4

5star

D

8.0

2star

K

5.2

2star

HB

2.8

3star

M

2.8

3star

T

0.6

3star

G

1.4

5star

. Not "that" Max King

12

Max King

Age

24

Ht

202cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.3

2star

K

4.7

2star

HB

2.6

2star

M

2.7

3star

T

0.7

3star

G

1.4

5star

D

7.3

2star

K

4.7

2star

HB

2.6

2star

M

2.7

3star

T

0.7

1star

G

1.4

5star

D

8.0

2star

K

5.2

2star

HB

2.8

3star

M

2.8

3star

T

0.6

3star

G

1.4

5star

.