Player Watch Nick Daicos - Can he be the GOAT?

[Rusty Beam]

One impacts the game significantly more than the other

Correct.

Plus experts at Champion Data have already rubbished this new contested ‘hard ball’ angle.

But people will continue to make up whatever story they want looking to satiate their confirmation bias.

 

[Always Ballin]

One impacts the game significantly more than the other

The experts at Champion Data have also stated it’s not true.

But people will continue to make up whatever story they want looking to satiate their confirmation bias.

 

[BigPond101]

Being the "Greatest of all time" must mean you have some utterly extraordinary quality that can never be repeated like Eagles Judd grabbing the ball stationary from a stoppage then exploding out and putting 2 metres on his opponents before they even move

Daicios can gather 30, 40, 50 disposals but really who cares. He's just the final boss version of Matthew Pridis

 

[FAIRANDBALANCED]

Being the "Greatest of all time" must mean you have some utterly extraordinary quality that can never be repeated like Eagles Judd grabbing the ball stationary from a stoppage then exploding out and putting 2 metres on his opponents before they even move

Daicios can gather 30, 40, 50 disposals but really who cares. He's just the final boss version of Matthew Pridis

Streaming from stoppage, you are saying Naicos doesn't compare to Judd? I would agree, when he kicks it goes to his team mate and damages. Judd was a superstar, but also Dangerfield like in his crap kicking and turnovers.

Naicos will never be GOAT to all as he is not hard/tough enough. But he will likely be the most skilful the game has ever seen. He's pretty clutch too.

 

[Worm4]

Streaming from stoppage, you are saying Naicos doesn't compare to Judd? I would agree, when he kicks it goes to his team mate and damages. Judd was a superstar, but also Dangerfield like in his crap kicking and turnovers.

Naicos will never be GOAT to all as he is not hard/tough enough. But he will likely be the most skilful the game has ever seen. He's pretty clutch too.

Greg Williams is the most skilful player I have ever seen. Second is not even close

 

[Fadge]

Greg Williams is the most skilful player I have ever seen. Second is not even close

That would happen when you only watch Carlton games and the only points of reference you have are the likes of Cripps and Walsh...

 

[Worm4]

That would happen when you only watch Carlton games and the only points of reference you have are the likes of Cripps and Walsh...

You know Carlton played against every team in the comp back in the day ?

 

[Fadge]

You know Carlton played against every team in the comp back in the day ?

Oh, so you watched other teams once or twice a year?

 

[Worm4]

Oh, so you watched other teams once or twice a year?

I watch 4 or 5 games a week. Pretty sure I can form my own opinion whether you agree with it or not

 

[doppleganger]

It’s strange how invested Carlton fans are with this Daicos fella.

Poor Baggers spend the entire 21st century at the foot of the ladder collecting spoons and early top end draft picks but end up with just good mids like M.Murphy, Gibbs and Walsh - or bog average flops like P.Dow, SPS and L.O'Brien.

Pies enjoy more than a decade watching Pendles play in finals, and then have 1 single down year grab GOATcos and jump right back up into premiership contention and we get to enjoy even more success.

It is a tough pillow to swallow for Baggers.

 

[Fadge]

Darren Jarman was up there.

What separated Williams from most of others in the modern era was his ability to still rack up brilliant numbers while having someone hanging off him the entire game. Taggers back then were grubs.

Also....

Jason Akermanis (not sure I ever saw Diesel kick a 55 metre goal from the pocket on his opposite foot... this guy did it for fun).
Simon Black
Sam Mitchell
Scott Pendlebury
NICK DAICOS

To say these guys aren't even close to Diesel is standard Carlton supporter delusion.

Then we have the guys like Ablett Snr, Knights and Blight who had the high marking 'skill' - not sure that was in Diesel's repertoire...

 

[Attempted Moustache]

Taggers back then were grubs.

So was Diesel to be fair.

 

[Fadge]

So was Diesel to be fair.

Still don't reckon he gave back anywhere near as much as he copped.

 

[Worm4]

or bog average flops like P.Dow, SPS and L.O'Brien.

It is a tough pillow to swallow for Baggers.

Not sure who was worse - matt scharenberg or Nathan freeman , or the 3 you listed for Carlton

 

[JustaBattler]

OF top4 players mentioned in First Crack reference....

Daicos has 15 something something CBB somethings
Interestingly Pittonet has 11 from half the games and Cripps has 10 ( equal to Bontompeli)

Seems like Collingwood are very dependant on the kidGoAT and references to beating an undermanned WC as a large part of teh something something CBB somethings

lolworthy King commentary ( as usual) on the Daicos Media BS marketing machine - fancy being only 5 things better than a Pittonet who has played only half the games references and then saying that says something about his uniqueness


LMAO re useless stat factoids

oh boy woweee

 

[Fadge]

Daicos has 15 something something CBB somethings
Interestingly Pittonet has 11 from half the games and Cripps has 10 ( equal to Bontompeli)

lolworthy King commentary ( as usual) on the Daicos Media BS marketing machine - fancy being only 5 things better than a Pittonet who has played only half the games references and then saying that says something about his uniqueness

Given the data is from the last four weeks only, of which Pittonet has played ALL four games, and as a primary ruckman has attended significantly more centre clearances than Daicos, it does say something about Daicos' uniqueness.

 

[doppleganger]

Not sure who was worse - matt scharenberg or Nathan freeman , or the 3 you listed for Carlton

A no contest, the Carlton 3 were bog average VFL level footballers.

Shaz just couldnt get on the park.

 

[JustaBattler]

Given the data is from the last four weeks only, of which Pittonet has played ALL four games, and as a primary ruckman has attended significantly more centre clearances than Daicos, it does say something about Daicos' uniqueness.

fudgey no one is suggesting that Daicos is anything except a very good player- the hyperbole you started with was funny at the beginning - but the carry on frenzy is now just banter. the references are to 5 games played ( huge sample space eh) Pittonet hasn't played 5 games even - and the list included the top 4 players - two of which were Carlton...

it is a rabbit hole of nothing you are going down.

 

[loki04]

I wasn't watching last week, did he get tagged all game?

I noticed the Eagles didnt seem to pay him much attention today

lol and they lost by a disgraceful amount so good tactic…

 

[loki04]

He's great. I admit, Nicholas is good. Very good. But GOAT? Slow down!

He’s 3 years into his career of course he isn’t the goat or even in that conversation yet, fadge just getting carried away.

 

[loki04]

The coveted hardball get - the TRUE contested possession. There are contested possessions and contested possessions.

I do agree with this, Nick is showing improvement in that area last few weeks long term won’t be an issue. After all with his skills he’s best utilised outside the contest to finish, not withstanding needs to go when he has to which last few weeks he has.

 

[loki04]

Also....

Jason Akermanis (not sure I ever saw Diesel kick a 55 metre goal from the pocket on his opposite foot... this guy did it for fun).
Simon Black
Sam Mitchell
Scott Pendlebury
NICK DAICOS

To say these guys aren't even close to Diesel is standard Carlton supporter delusion.

Then we have the guys like Ablett Snr, Knights and Blight who had the high marking 'skill' - not sure that was in Diesel's repertoire...

Nathan Buckley.

 

[doppleganger]

Given the data is from the last four weeks only, of which Pittonet has played ALL four games, and as a primary ruckman has attended significantly more centre clearances than Daicos, it does say something about Daicos' uniqueness.

Not sure why you expecting a Bagger to understand!

GOATcos in just his 3rd season is now the most impactful stoppage and clearance player in the game.

He already showed how good he is with ball in hand on the outside.

And he is has just ticked over 50 games and still putting size on his small frame.

Gaz Jnr was still a speculative small forward at this point of his career, it wasnt until his sixth season after had already played 100 games, when he had the size, power and endurance to be moved to midfield.

 

[loki04]

You mean like this one ?View attachment 1987370

That’s as rare as hens teeth for Juddy, he spilt more overhead marks then he took.

 

[Fadge]

fudgey no one is suggesting that Daicos is anything except a very good player- the hyperbole you started with was funny at the beginning - but the carry on frenzy is now just banter. the references are to 5 games played ( huge sample space eh) Pittonet hasn't played 5 games even - and the list included the top 4 players - two of which were Carlton...

it is a rabbit hole of nothing you are going down.

So you've gone from 'Pittonet has only played half the games' to 'the data is from 5 games, and Pittonet hasn't even played 5 games', despite Pittonet having played the last 5 games (the data set from which the statistics have been referenced).