Politics No opt-out of filtered Internet

[Play by Numbers]

Courtesy of WCEforeverman:

Conroy meets with Google for YouTube filtering

Eyes refused classification content.
Communications Minister Stephen Conroy had entered discussions with Google to block access to video content that was not technically feasible to filter at the ISP level.
Conroy told a Senate Estimates committee that it was technically infeasible to apply his proposed filtering regime to web sites like YouTube because it would introduce performance issues.
The Government was instead reaching out to Google to filter out refused classification video content.

http://www.crn.com.au/News/166677,conroy-meets-with-google-for-youtube-filtering.aspx

lol at this from Conroy:

"[Google] are experts at deep packet filtering. They're probably the world's leading deep packet filterer, unbeknownst to most people.

Then the response:

But Google Australia's head of policy Iarla Flynn told iTnews the search giant could not give the Government an assurance it would voluntarily remove all refused classification content from YouTube.
Flynn also denied that Google used deep packet inspection to filter content in other countries.

*sigh*

 

[footyfreak]

This is going to get scary!

 

[Dry Rot]

Next week's news:

Conroy meets with Google for search and links filtering

 

[WCEforeverman]

And then the week after that:

Conroy meets with Google, asks what they do

 

[Ant_]

http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/stories/s2813455.htm

Conroy's filter will not make the internet safer

 

[Ant_]

Green's senator Ludlam getting stuck into Conroy

http://greensmps.org.au/content/transcript/internet-filtering-department

 

[Cousin Jed]

80% of Australians are in favour of the Federal Government’s proposed mandatory internet filter according to a new nationwide telephone poll commissioned by Hungry Beast.

The ABC show returns tonight and tackles the subject of the proposed internet filter.

Last week McNair Ingenuity Research asked a range of questions about issues relating to the proposed internet filter to 1,000 people. All states, territories and demographics were represented in the survey.

Link

 

[Ant_]

80% of Australians? How was the poll worded?

 

[Clay Davis]

LOL, what's the bet the question was 'Do you agree with the government filtering child pr0n on the net?'

Hungry Beast is a shit show anyway.

 

[morell]

Keep reading!;

http://www.tvtonight.com.au/2010/02/hungry-beast-finds-80-favour-internet-filter.html

But the Hungry Beast survey also found that 91% of Australians were in favour of making public the list of websites that would be blocked by the internet filter. This sees the overwhelming majority of the population opposed to the Government’s current plan to keep the list of blocked websites secret.

http://www.tvtonight.com.au/2010/02/hungry-beast-finds-80-favour-internet-filter.html

Also;

Government websites hacked in pr0n protest against internet filter plan

 

[evo]

LOL, what's the bet the question was 'Do you agree with the government filtering child pr0n on the net?'

Hungry Beast is a shit show anyway.

[YOUTUBE]zyf7DWK4CS8[/YOUTUBE]

 

[Dont be a lemon]

Christ this filter is balls

 

[Tambaran]

LOL, what's the bet the question was 'Do you agree with the government filtering child pr0n on the net?'

Hungry Beast is a shit show anyway.

Playing Devil's Advocate, perhaps it wasn't. Perhaps you're in the minority.

Pretty petty to attack the show rather than analysing the poll.

 

[Ant_]

No surprise you chimed in.

 

[Clay Davis]

Playing Devil's Advocate, perhaps it wasn't. Perhaps you're in the minority.

Meh. Rather be in a small minority than associated with you.

Pretty petty to attack the show rather than analysing the poll.

The show is shit despite the poll.

 

[Sloth]

Just saw the Hungry Beast segment on the this internet filter. According to Conroy if a lot of people try to access a banned site, the Internet will slow down. Now just imagine if a DDoS attack was launched sending millions of requests to one of these banned sites. The entire Internet will crash (Australian access to it, that is)

Given today's attack, this is a very likely to happen. Has the government really considered what they are dealing with here?

 

[Tambaran]

As usual, attack the poster rather than my point. This is pretty poor, but I won't bite.

 

[wickedcherub]

*Except to post that I wont bite.

 

[Clay Davis]

As usual, attack the poster rather than my point. This is pretty poor, but I won't bite.

As per usual, your point is shit. Poster is more fun to attack.

 

[Clay Davis]

Playing Devil's Advocate, perhaps it wasn't.

Turns out it was:

Now all you Twitterphiles furnished with #nocleanfeed avatars might want to take stock: 80% of people said they were in favour of “having a mandatory Government Internet filter that would automatically block all access in Australia, to overseas websites containing material that is Refused Classification”. Survey participants were first read a definition of ‘Refused Classification’ as follows:

Images and information about one or more of the following:

- child sexual abuse
- bestiality
- sexual violence
- gratuitous, exploitative or offensive sexual fetishes; and
- detailed instructions on or promotion of crime, violence or use of illegal drugs

http://hungrybeast.abc.net.au/stories/internet-filter-survey-results

 

[Tambaran]

So what else will the filter do?

 

[pmad87]

- child sexual abuse
- bestiality
- sexual violence
- gratuitous, exploitative or offensive sexual fetishes; and
- detailed instructions on or promotion of crime, violence or use of illegal drugs

So what else will the filter do?

Well first of all, the words gratuitous and offensive are very vague. What if I'm not offended by it and you are? Why should your personal taste be more important than mine?

Secondly, instructing people on the use of illegal drugs will probably save lives.

Thirdly, in addition to those things, trials have so far blocked websites advocating positions on euthanasia and abortion - perfectly legitimate political discussion.

Fourthly, with a secret blacklist which is not accountable to any sort of public scrutiny, who knows what a future government may add to the list.

 

[Copernicus]

People are ****ing stupid.

THIS FILTER WILL NOT PROTECT YOU!

Someone needs to hire a skywriter.

 

[pmad87]

Jesus Christ, Conroy isn't even trying to avoid comparisons with Chinese censorship now.

Communications Minister Stephen Conroy referred to Google's censorship on behalf of the Chinese and Thai governments in making his case for the company to impose censorship locally.......

....."Google at the moment filters an enormous amount of material on behalf of the Chinese government; they filter an enormous amount of material on behalf of the Thai government."......

And Google responds with what we've all been saying:

"YouTube has clear policies about what content is not allowed, for example hate speech and pornography, and we enforce these, but we can't give any assurances that we would voluntarily remove all Refused Classification content from YouTube," Flynn said.

"The scope of RC is simply too broad and can raise genuine questions about restrictions on access to information. RC includes the grey realms of material instructing in any crime from [painting] graffiti to politically controversial crimes such as euthanasia, and exposing these topics to public debate is vital for democracy."

Source: http://www.theage.com.au/technology...oys-call-to-censor-youtube-20100211-ntm0.html

 

[tandino]

I can't remember Youtube containing much child pr0n.