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If you have to go back 300,000 years to find your African ancestor then probably not.
There’s plenty of ‘Italians’ in Melbourne who have parents both born in Australia and none of them have ever been to Italy.
I don’t have the answers.
I have an English Uncle who married into the Irish side of my family. He pretty much turned into Mr Ireland after that. Insisted on buying a farmhouse in Ireland...despite none of the family living there anymore. Always the keenest for Paddy’s day. Massive Ireland rugby fan. It’s embarrassing.
I’ve already admitted that I don’t know the rules and I don’t really have a stake in this either way.My great grandfather was indigenous on my dads side, which means I am considered indigenous. Do I try to claim I am? No, I take one look in the mirror and I am paler than the average white bloke. Am I ashamed of it? No, quite the opposite in fact, I find it very intriguing to know where I’ve come from, but I don’t feel the need to trace back heritage and claim that it may or may not have disadvantaged me today. I am not an aboriginal, and that lady as Biden’s VP (forgot her name, apologies) is not African American. She may have the heritage but that doesn’t mean she is.
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Doc Rivers' press conference was very powerful.America is f’ed. Bucks boycotting a playoffs game in protest.
I fully understand what they're trying to do here - make a political statement. What's odd to me is that they're doing it by shutting down the NBA, directly affecting the livelihoods of thousands of people who may not want to make their statement in this way, and doing nothing to address the treatment of black people at the hands of police.Lakers & Clips thinking about leaving the bubble.
Huge call to continue the playoffs if that happens
player vote tomorrow
I'm not sure Kamala Harris has endured much discrimination. She has a Jamaican father and and an Indian Mother but who cares. She's done very well by crapping on people on the way up. She dated Willie Brown. If you don't know how corrupt and awful that guy is, just Google him.I’ve already admitted that I don’t know the rules and I don’t really have a stake in this either way.
However, Kamala Harris is clearly a Black woman and has every right to identify and such. Perhaps she has been discriminated against where you haven’t...I don’t know. If you appeared more indigenous perhaps you’d have suffered more issues, and maybe that’s the point.
She’s also from a very wealthy family by the looks of it so she’s probably had some advantages over the years.
I’d say socio-economic standing is more of a barrier these days than race.
It’s disappointing that her race is raised as a positive or a negative when it really shouldn’t have any influence on anyone either way.
You'd be surprised I reckon. Sport has a certain weight and would make a huge difference. I mean as an example, they weren't taking covid all that seriously until the NBA postponed the season... to a degree same for here and the AFL.I fully understand what they're trying to do here - make a political statement. What's odd to me is that they're doing it by shutting down the NBA, directly affecting the livelihoods of thousands of people who may not want to make their statement in this way, and doing nothing to address the treatment of black people at the hands of police.
Honestly, if full blown riots all over the US wasn't going to fix things, I struggle to see how shutting down the NBA would, but I guess if they feel this is the best way they can express themselves, then all power to them
I’ve already admitted that I don’t know the rules and I don’t really have a stake in this either way.
However, Kamala Harris is clearly a Black woman and has every right to identify and such. Perhaps she has been discriminated against where you haven’t...I don’t know. If you appeared more indigenous perhaps you’d have suffered more issues, and maybe that’s the point.
She’s also from a very wealthy family by the looks of it so she’s probably had some advantages over the years.
I’d say socio-economic standing is more of a barrier these days than race.
It’s disappointing that her race is raised as a positive or a negative when it really shouldn’t have any influence on anyone either way.
She may be a person of colour but she is not African American which the Dems have tried to promote her as.
No one has ever said she isn’t a woman of colour.
When her party is using that as a positive for her they can’t expect it not to be pointed out it’s not true
That's a total distortion. The census allows self reporting of ethnicity. Many people of Jamaican descent do not report as African American. Similarly, Indian descent people are hardly likely to report as African American if they have an Indian parent and some tenuous connection to African. She is identifying to get votes. Once the USA has more Indian descent people, she will probably tick the Indian box.Why do you think she is not African American? The U.S census bureau defines that group as “black people born in the United States” (and they define “black” as “of African descent”, and specifically include people of African descent from the Carribean). Harris was born in the United States, to a father of African descent from the Carribean. That seems pretty clear cut to me.
That's a total distortion. The census allows self reporting of ethnicity. Many people of Jamaican descent do not report as African American. Similarly, Indian descent people are hardly likely to report as African American if they have an Indian parent and some tenuous connection to African. She is identifying to get votes. Once the USA has more Indian descent people, she will probably tick the Indian box.
Why do you think she is not African American? The U.S census bureau defines that group as “black people born in the United States” (and they define “black” as “of African descent”, and specifically include people of African descent from the Carribean). Harris was born in the United States, to a father of African descent from the Carribean. That seems pretty clear cut to me.
Because she isn’t African American
it ridiculous how far people go back in their heritage to define themselves for advantageous purposes.
I do not classified myself as European Australian even though my father is English. Why? Because I’m not European and it doesn’t help me push an agenda I don’t even really belong too. Why have I never heard the term African Australian or African European ??? Hmmmmmmm
mans in the end I believe it’s been proven we alL descend from African originally.
Fair enough. I'm suspicious of concepts of identity in general, let alone those based on genetic or geographic origin, so I'm with you there. But people do seem to find them useful for whatever reason, so if she, or anyone else, wants to define themselves as belonging to a particular group, I figure that's their call to make. I'll do my best not to let it affect how I think about or interact with them in any way.
I’d say socio-economic standing is more of a barrier these days than race.I’ve already admitted that I don’t know the rules and I don’t really have a stake in this either way.
However, Kamala Harris is clearly a Black woman and has every right to identify and such. Perhaps she has been discriminated against where you haven’t...I don’t know. If you appeared more indigenous perhaps you’d have suffered more issues, and maybe that’s the point.
She’s also from a very wealthy family by the looks of it so she’s probably had some advantages over the years.
I’d say socio-economic standing is more of a barrier these days than race.
It’s disappointing that her race is raised as a positive or a negative when it really shouldn’t have any influence on anyone either way.
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Undefeated in 2020, remains undefeated.... in 2016, he almost got defaulted. Today he got defaulted at the US Open.