Oppo Camp Non Eagles Discussion thread - 2017 edition (continued in Part 2)

[matt_bas]

I am expecting a loss. Sydney will be ferocious and there is nothing to suggest we will be up for the contest around the ball. Our one strength so far has been running out the games but on a 5 day turn around I won't be banking on it.

We will need to get off to a flyer.

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I'm confident. Swans to jump us early before we claw our way back to win by a point.

 

[WCErevival]

With the amount of melt threads posted this week. If we lose to the swans this place will be hell.

Sit back with sone popcorn. It makes the loss better

 

[matt_bas]

Sit back with sone popcorn. It makes the loss better

I prefer scotch n ice

 

[Agent93]

I don't know where to put this, but since the article in question is about Vickery this will do.

Apparently the AFL average for hitouts won by a ruckman is 45.6%. How is that possible? 2 ruckman attend every hitout, and 1 of them is credited with winning it, so the average should be 50%.

I know what's happened here, the statsmen have created a misleading number by not weighting the individual's averages for ruck attendence. If ruckman A attends 50 bounces and wins 30 (60%) and ruckman B attends 4 bounces and wins 1 (25%) then the 'average' of those two percentages is 42.5%, whereas the combined wins is 31 of 54, or 57.5%. Either way, Vickery is still shit.

 

[Forward Press]

I don't know where to put this, but since the article in question is about Vickery this will do.

Apparently the AFL average for hitouts won by a ruckman is 45.6%. How is that possible? 2 ruckman attend every hitout, and 1 of them is credited with winning it, so the average should be 50%.

I know what's happened here, the statsmen have created a misleading number by not weighting the individual's averages for ruck attendence. If ruckman A attends 50 bounces and wins 30 (60%) and ruckman B attends 4 bounces and wins 1 (25%) then the 'average' of those two percentages is 42.5%, whereas the combined wins is 31 of 54, or 57.5%. Either way, Vickery is still shit.

There are also ruck contests where neither ruckman gets credited with a hitout if it is too hard to call, or it goes straight to ground without touching their hands which sometimes happens.

I should know as a used-to-be avid fantasy football player.

 

[Agent93]

There are also ruck contests where neither ruckman gets credited with a hitout if it is too hard to call, or it goes straight to ground without touching their hands which sometimes happens.

I should know as a used-to-be avid fantasy football player.

Wouldn't be 8.8% of all contests though.

 

[Keys]

It would also exclude hitouts won by a non-ruckman I suspect

So if Darling contests a throw in and wins that doesn't count as he's not a ruckman as such

 

[Agent93]

It would also exclude hitouts won by a non-ruckman I suspect

So if Darling contests a throw in and wins that doesn't count as he's not a ruckman as such

Poor player B!

 

[Jimmy_the_Gent]

Not that we'd be interested.

 

[kane249]

Not that we'd be interested.

Too slow, too shit.

Could see him go to the Suns to play with his brother / they use him as another stop gap solution.

 

[Keys]

A midfield of swallow, priddis, Mitchell, hutch, redden and Sheed

Time would stand still. Or appear so

The melts on this board would make global warming look like a non event

 

[Truckosaurus]

I can actually see us recruiting Swallow as he would make the rest of our mids seem faster by comparison.

 

[Godfather32]

I can actually see us recruiting Swallow as he would make the rest of our mids seem faster by comparison.

We'd better not, he's f****** awful, barely in North Melbournes best 22.

 

[Truckosaurus]

It'd be the recruiting equivalent of only hanging out with people who are uglier than you.

 

[bzparkes]

I prefer scotch n ice

My hero.

 

[Woobla Stainz]

Would only take Swallow of his Bro comes as part of thw package.

 

[avishka5]

swallow must be one of the most overrated players in the comp. Infact cunnington, swallow, ziebell and greenwood all have been overrated throughout their careers. All B grade garbage.

 

[RookiePick]

Would swap one of our B-graders for a Cunnington or Ziebell in a flash.

They are like the anti-westcoast midfield but just as flawed because of the lack of balance.

 

[ioppolo]

Ziebell, yeah. Cunnington, nah.

 

[WCE_phil]

Ziebell, yeah. Cunnington, nah.

Cunnington could be a great player with the right players around him. He certainly a far better inside mid than redden and hutchings. I'd go as far as to say as far as extracting the ball from the contest he would be our second best behind priddis and therefore could be a priddis replacement. It's all moot as he would never even get close to our list but he's not a bad player.

Ziebull could have been a great player if he could kick (Even his handballs aren't great) as he's a good extractor and is powerful breaking away from a contest.

 

[liam123]

I'd take Ziebell of of their hands any day...is a beast

 

[RookiePick]

Ziebell is obviously a cut above Cunnington but they both have traits we are short on.

Ziebell would seem more damaging if he had more class to distribute to around him. He often has to do too much which exposes his shortcomings more than neccessary. The bloke knows how to kick a goal too which is something we really lack from our mids.

 

[bUCKET__]

Anyone else prefer Cunnington because it's fun to call him campaignerington?

 

[eagles rule]

Not that we'd be interested.

Hes been in the Norf system so of course WCE would be interested ..

 

[Galileo9]

Pav in WCE change rooms!!!!

Suits him.