Oppo Camp Non-Essendon Football Thread XVII

[fairbump_playon]

Lots of “Massimo a lock for all Australian” press today

Sigh

I know there were knocks on him defensively but in hindsight (or even foresight) his output surely justifies the risks of keeping him

He has been getting better and better by the week. Turning into a real weapon.

We aren’t really a club that can afford to be letting all Australians go for pick 61

 

[VelvetSledge]

Lots of “Massimo a lock for all Australian” press today

Sigh

I know there were knocks on him defensively but in hindsight (or even foresight) his output surely justifies the risks of keeping him

He has been getting better and better by the week. Turning into a real weapon.

We aren’t really a club that can afford to be letting all Australians go for pick 61

Unfortunately it looks as though this will go down as one of our big trade/free agency blunders.

Credit to him though, he saw an opportunity at the Hawks and will now likely be playing finals. Hard to be mad at him, or the Hawks, when they clearly have the professional mindset required to bottom out and rebuild within a couple of years. Wish we could do that.

 

[ant555]

Hawthorn are a blueprint of how we should run our recruitment and development. They've won premierships, bottomed out and overtaken us without us winning a final in that same period.

They're bloody good to watch too.

True but you have to get to the point where you are good first .
We are more in Melbourne or Richmond territory. Trying to get out of years of failures.
Can not really be where the Hawks are until you build it and win first .

 

[silk]

Lots of “Massimo a lock for all Australian” press today

Sigh

I know there were knocks on him defensively but in hindsight (or even foresight) his output surely justifies the risks of keeping him

He has been getting better and better by the week. Turning into a real weapon.

We aren’t really a club that can afford to be letting all Australians go for pick 61

At the end of the day we didn't let him go for 61, we had no choice given he would have counted as a DFA. We let him go because he wanted 2 years... which is even more baffling given some of the contracts we've handed out not just historically but recently. (Cough McGrath Cough)

Sometimes it feels like we as a club just can't build around what player can do and instead worry about what they can't do. In the end it leaves us with a lot of mid tier players who aren't amazing at anything.

Even someone like Dustin Martin would have probably been ruined at Essendon.

 

[Mercurial89]

Unfortunately it looks as though this will go down as one of our big trade/free agency blunders.

Credit to him though, he saw an opportunity at the Hawks and will now likely be playing finals. Hard to be mad at him, or the Hawks, when they clearly have the professional mindset required to bottom out and rebuild within a couple of years. Wish we could do that.

Taking the positive stance,
For all the criticism of us in the draft, we are absolutely nailing the talent in mid season/preseason drafts.

If we could translate that success into the first round and start getting some real difference makers in then we could be cooking with gas. Caddy appears to be a good start, we just need more.

 

[Call Me Cake]

Lots of “Massimo a lock for all Australian” press today

Sigh

I know there were knocks on him defensively but in hindsight (or even foresight) his output surely justifies the risks of keeping him

He has been getting better and better by the week. Turning into a real weapon.

We aren’t really a club that can afford to be letting all Australians go for pick 61

What a load of bollocks. Look at his overall stats for the year and his above average games are far and few between and isn't categorized as elite in any of the stats for the year. Just because the majority of the team has had a purple patch and have been able to click against the crap teams (mostly - Blues were doing it rough) doesn't mean he's AA and if that were to ever be the case then the AA system would be outed as completely broken and a farce. There wasn't a peep about Mass last week and yet when Hawks win the win as attributed to Mass by the Mass cultists. Lmao.

 

[div12ressie]

Mckay sent for scans on his quads

worth putting some $ on WCE this weekend!

 

[Old Campaigner]

Lots of “Massimo a lock for all Australian” press today

Sigh

I know there were knocks on him defensively but in hindsight (or even foresight) his output surely justifies the risks of keeping him

He has been getting better and better by the week. Turning into a real weapon.

We aren’t really a club that can afford to be letting all Australians go for pick 61

To be fair to the club he was having Menzie level impact on games in his final year with us, racking up unaccountable touches off halfback. A one year deal wasn’t unreasonable (it’s not like we delisted him) and potentially quite generous if the rumours of attitude issues were true.

 

[dank420_]

Guys, we will finish above Carlton.

 

[Beerfish]

Guys, we will finish above Carlton.

 

[astrowizzle]

Guys, we will finish above Carlton.

I don't want to I want better picks

 

[fairbump_playon]

What a load of bollocks. Look at his overall stats for the year and his above average games are far and few between and isn't categorized as elite in any of the stats for the year. Just because the majority of the team has had a purple patch and have been able to click against the crap teams (mostly - Blues were doing it rough) doesn't mean he's AA and if that were to ever be the case then the AA system would be outed as completely broken and a farce. There wasn't a peep about Mass last week and yet when Hawks win the win as attributed to Mass by the Mass cultists. Lmao.

Yeah the press is a bit ott

But I’ve been watching most hawks games and he has been very good across the last stretch

He stands out because he has a point of difference.. elite foot skills

 

[Call Me Cake]

I thought Curnow was 25 or something. He'll be 28 before the start of next season.

 

[Call Me Cake]

But I’ve been watching most hawks games and he has been very good across the last stretch

Serviceable at times is a different story. Most role players would look good if the rest of the team is clicking for a period of time. Clicking we were not. Otherwise his defensive liability outweighs the serviceability.

He stands out because he has a point of difference.. elite foot skills

Because it's an "underdog" story. Rookie "making a new name for himself" after being "axed" (the common theme). For him anything occasionally above average would be "look at this" whereas for others, it's just "__ doing __ things". It sells articles and I'm all for having a bit of fun but gotta reel it in and keep it realistic.

I have nothing against Mass, I hope for his sake he develops, but seeing people become so reactionary over hyperbole makes you question if the Dead Internet Theory is true.

 

[div12ressie]

Wonder if Merrett feels the same way about Essendon the way Petracca is feeling about Melbourne

 

[fairbump_playon]

Serviceable at times is a different story. Most role players would look good if the rest of the team is clicking for a period of time. Clicking we were not. Otherwise his defensive liability outweighs the serviceability.



Because it's an "underdog" story. Rookie "making a new name for himself" after being "axed" (the common theme). For him anything occasionally above average would be "look at this" whereas for others, it's just "__ doing __ things". It sells articles and I'm all for having a bit of fun but gotta reel it in and keep it realistic.

I have nothing against Mass, I hope for his sake he develops, but seeing people become so reactionary over hyperbole makes you question if the Dead Internet Theory is true.

Ok. Let’s see how his career ends up.

Regardless of whether it’s star of the comp vs role player, EFC let go an asset (elite field kick) when we didn’t have any others of that kind bar Merrett.

While holding numerous mediocre small forwards and middling key defenders

 

[Agronomus]

Is Carlton the Essendon of the AFL now?

 

[Sporno 4 Pyros]

Alex Neal-Bullen

28

Alex Neal-bullen

Age

28

Ht

182cm

Wt

80kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.3

4star

K

8.7

3star

HB

6.6

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

4.1

5star

G

0.8

4star

D

10.5

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

4.5

3star

M

2.0

2star

T

1.5

2star

G

1.5

5star

D

10.0

3star

K

5.0

2star

HB

5.0

4star

M

1.4

2star

T

2.0

4star

G

1.0

4star

wants out of MFC…what’s going on down there??
They can’t afford to lose players like him especially after losing Brayshaw earlier this year. They need to have a mini-rebuild and attack this super draft hard before Tassie turns up. Shouldn’t be wasting picks on Dan Houston

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Dan Houston

Age

27

Ht

186cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.2

5star

K

11.8

4star

HB

6.4

4star

M

4.9

5star

T

3.0

5star

MG

289.2

4star

D

17.6

4star

K

11.6

4star

HB

6.0

3star

M

3.3

3star

T

3.4

4star

MG

319.9

5star

D

16.6

4star

K

12.4

5star

HB

4.2

4star

M

7.0

5star

T

2.6

4star

MG

279.8

5star

 

[doug85]

Alex Neal-Bullen wants out of MFC…what’s going on down there??
They can’t afford to lose players like him especially after losing Brayshaw earlier this year. They need to have a mini-rebuild and attack this super draft hard before Tassie turns up. Shouldn’t be wasting picks on Dan Houston

Norf making a big play for Viney. Clarry rumoured to be gettable. And then the dissatisfaction of Petracca.

We look comparatively stable

 

[fairbump_playon]

You can just feel Melb heading back to obscurity for another 40 years.

They won a flag but somehow I'd rather be us.

 

[BomberFan355]

Carlton flying early with a heap of late season injuries, sounds familiar…

 

[VelvetSledge]

Alex Neal-Bullen wants out of MFC…what’s going on down there??
They can’t afford to lose players like him especially after losing Brayshaw earlier this year. They need to have a mini-rebuild and attack this super draft hard before Tassie turns up. Shouldn’t be wasting picks on Dan Houston

I think another part of it is wanting to get back home with family in SA.

 

[jannissary]

Alex Neal-Bullen wants out of MFC…what’s going on down there??
They can’t afford to lose players like him especially after losing Brayshaw earlier this year. They need to have a mini-rebuild and attack this super draft hard before Tassie turns up. Shouldn’t be wasting picks on Dan Houston

goodwin has restarted his meth programme that won them the 2021 premiership

 

[TheGreatBarryB]

Sam McClure the source so not sure if serious ..Blues looking at Xavier Campbell as CEO

Succession: Carlton approach former Essendon boss to be their next CEO

As the Blues lick their wounds from their horror loss to Hawthorn – and another run of terrible injuries to star players – the club’s administration is looking to shore up its future off the field.

www.theage.com.au

 

[eth-dog]

Sam McClure the source so not sure if serious ..Blues looking at Xavier Campbell as CEO

Succession: Carlton approach former Essendon boss to be their next CEO

As the Blues lick their wounds from their horror loss to Hawthorn – and another run of terrible injuries to star players – the club’s administration is looking to shore up its future off the field.

www.theage.com.au

He has good Blues mail and that's about it