Oppo Camp Non-Essendon Football Thread XVII

[Lore]

Others have covered my thoughts.

I disagee that it's difficult, but I'm happy to agree to disagree.

Not difficult, but onerous

 

[Old Campaigner]

While we’re on roads, any danger of making potholes a thing of the past?

Apparently the way to fix them is to put up a ROUGH SURFACE sign and reduce the speed limit

 

[Lore]

It's pretty easy to avoid things like hook turns for example, then have no idea what you're doing when confronted with one.

We don't really do a good job of teaching people to drive in adverse conditions e.g. significant rain or fog.

Agreed, though we don’t really do a good job of teaching them to drive in sleet or how and when to operate a block heater, and install winter tires or snow chains in a country such as this one either. It’s all relative to opportunity…

That said, how hard is a hook turn, really? If you got your license in Vic you should be fine, it’s in the learners book and they’re well-signed and reasonably logical. Better question might be about interstate and international drivers encountering it for the first time with no forewarning?

Other stuff like merging properly (like a zipper) or staying out of the right hand lane on the freeway unless overtaking are both common issues people would come across as well. We're not very considerate drivers in my experience.

Merging is in the driving test, to such a degree that I changed lanes early in my test and was forced to return to the terminating lane and go through the merge by the tester so that she could tick it off.

I don’t usually have any difficulty merging fairly with other drivers? Like unless my indicator is broken, it’s always one in and one off. Even trying to cross three lanes in heavy traffic isn’t that hard, I do find them reasonably considerate most of the time.

Maybe where I live and work everyone is accustomed to the requirements of their daily drives and fulfil it with at least some grace? Getting an inkling it is more of a problem in some other part of the city/state/country perhaps, where they don’t drive much and don’t rely on maintaining a car license for their livelihoods?

I think the worst merge behaviours are when a lane is closed with the overhead signs and people decide they’re gonna pass all the traffic by going in it anyway, or perhaps an emergency lane… happens in the tunnels, bridges, or sometimes the freeways within 10-15km of the city, but don’t often see it elsewhere.

As to the right lanes, the rules say you can travel in the right lane/s if you’re avoiding congestion, which as per the aforementioned discussion, is most of the time that most people are using it. And in Vic any of the lanes barring the far right lane are fair game at all times anyway… definitely annoying on the two lane highways though. They won’t get on with it, won’t get out of the way.

 

[TheGreatBarryB]

I think a big problem these days is distracted drivers ..especially phones. Walking across the road and waiting in the middle even in smaller suburb streets is fraught with danger. A clip on 7 News last night of a lady crossing a pedestrian crossing on Williamstown Rd just outside the Port oval and she got clipped and tossed in the air. How on earth the driver couldn’t see her on a long stretch of road in broad daylight. See that a lot especially backend accidents

 

[ghostdog]

While we’re on roads, any danger of making potholes a thing of the past?

Roads where I live have been Swiss cheese since the flooding.

Apparently the way to fix them is to put up a ROUGH SURFACE sign and reduce the speed limit

...and this is precisely how they have been 'fixed.'

And I hear the new tech that keeps vehicles in their lane has steered people into potholes when they've tried to avoid them.

 

[Pweter]

It's pretty easy to avoid things like hook turns for example, then have no idea what you're doing when confronted with one.

We don't really do a good job of teaching people to drive in adverse conditions e.g. significant rain or fog.

Other stuff like merging properly (like a zipper) or staying out of the right hand lane on the freeway unless overtaking are both common issues people would come across as well. We're not very considerate drivers in my experience.

The complete lack of understanding by seemingly the majority of road users for how to zip merge is one of the biggest bug bears of my driving existence. Instead of everyone zipping together, the people 2 cars from the front start jostling for position, almost crash, basically stop, then the rest of the traffic behind them basically stops and the jostling continues for everyone else until maybe 2 thirds of the cars that should've gotten through get through. Meanwhile the 2 cars that started at the front are seemingly hundreds of metres down the road with plain sailing in front and behind.

 

[faible]

The complete lack of understanding by seemingly the majority of road users for how to zip merge is one of the biggest bug bears of my driving existence. Instead of everyone zipping together, the people 2 cars from the front start jostling for position, almost crash, basically stop, then the rest of the traffic behind them basically stops and the jostling continues for everyone else until maybe 2 thirds of the cars that should've gotten through get through. Meanwhile the 2 cars that started at the front are seemingly hundreds of metres down the road with plain sailing in front and behind.

This is the Australian way, never yield.

 

[Pweter]

Roads where I live have been Swiss cheese since the flooding.

...and this is precisely how they have been 'fixed.'

And I hear the new tech that keeps vehicles in their lane has steered people into potholes when they've tried to avoid them.

Where I live in SA they eventually patch the potholes, but only the pot hole. After a couple months of wear the edges of the patch are starting to chip off, then the next major rain it's all washed away leaving an even bigger pot hole ready for patching in a couple of months time.

 

[yodellinhank]

And I hear the new tech that keeps vehicles in their lane has steered people into potholes when they've tried to avoid them.

Some pick up the reflection of street lights in puddles when it rains and try to throw you sideways because they mistake the lights for lane markings. Seems pretty dangerous.

I blame Steve Jobs. Machines have been telling us they know better ever since the resurgence of Apple.

 

[ghostdog]

Where I live in SA they eventually patch the potholes, but only the pot hole. After a couple months of wear the edges of the patch are starting to chip off, then the next major rain it's all washed away leaving an even bigger pot hole ready for patching in a couple of months time.

Oh yes, that's another 'fix' our council seems to like.

 

[Lore]

Some pick up the reflection of street lights in puddles when it rains and try to throw you sideways because they mistake the lights for lane markings. Seems pretty dangerous.

I blame Steve Jobs. Machines have been telling us they know better ever since the resurgence of Apple.

Sounds like the car is in kahoots with phone, one to keep you distracted while the other causes an accident

 

[Beerfish]

And I hear the new tech that keeps vehicles in their lane has steered people into potholes when they've tried to avoid them

First thing I did when I got my new car in 2017 was turn that shit off. I can see it being useful for country driving but in the city it's just downright dangerous. Feels like someone is grabbing the steering wheel and forcing you to go somewhere you don't want to go. Very disconcerting and with all the lines on the road you had to constantly fight the car to go the right way.

 

[Pweter]

First thing I did when I got my new car in 2017 was turn that s**t off. I can see it being useful for country driving but in the city it's just downright dangerous. Feels like someone is grabbing the steering wheel and forcing you to go somewhere you don't want to go. Very disconcerting and with all the lines on the road you had to constantly fight the car to go the right way.

I had a problem in a hire car last December driving the winding hill roads up to Mt Tamborine on the Gold Coast. While the car recognised the line on the road it didn't seem to recognise the gradient of the road around some of the bends, and some were reasonably significant. I'd under-steer as the slope helps pull you around, and the car tries to make me steer as if on the flat thereby trying to pull me into the mountainside.

 

[Beerfish]

I had a problem in a hire car last December driving the winding hill roads up to Mt Tamborine on the Gold Coast. While the car recognised the line on the road it didn't seem to recognise the gradient of the road around some of the bends, and some were reasonably significant. I'd under-steer as the slope helps pull you around, and the car tries to make me steer as if on the flat thereby trying to pull me into the mountainside.

Yikes. Maybe it's only good for flat WA type country driving then. Having said that, I still don't have it on.

 

[Lore]

First thing I did when I got my new car in 2017 was turn that s**t off. I can see it being useful for country driving but in the city it's just downright dangerous. Feels like someone is grabbing the steering wheel and forcing you to go somewhere you don't want to go. Very disconcerting and with all the lines on the road you had to constantly fight the car to go the right way.

Country driving with that shit on would probably cause issues anyway, it’s hard enough staying attentive to the road over long distances with relatively little going on. It might stop you leaving the lane when you fall asleep, but you’d be more likely to fall asleep I think?


Also what does it do in roadworks?

 

[Beerfish]

It might stop you leaving the lane when you fall asleep

I think that's literally all it's meant to be for.

As for roadworks, same as the city. A fight with the car.

 

[doug85]

Speaking of questionable drivers…Clayton Oliver

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Clayton Oliver

Age

27

Ht

189cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

27.8

5star

K

9.5

4star

HB

18.4

5star

M

3.2

3star

T

6.3

5star

CL

6.3

5star

D

25.1

5star

K

11.1

4star

HB

14.0

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

5.6

5star

CL

5.9

5star

D

19.2

5star

K

4.6

2star

HB

14.6

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

4.4

5star

CL

3.8

5star

is taking another break from football.

 

[Lore]

Speaking of questionable drivers…Clayton Oliver is taking another break from football.

But not from driving, apparently. Who needs a license anyway?

 

[ghostdog]

First thing I did when I got my new car in 2017 was turn that s**t off. I can see it being useful for country driving but in the city it's just downright dangerous. Feels like someone is grabbing the steering wheel and forcing you to go somewhere you don't want to go. Very disconcerting and with all the lines on the road you had to constantly fight the car to go the right way.

Nope. No good for country driving either as it doesn't recognise roadkill. Some of those roos are big fellas.

 

[faible]

Country driving with that s**t on would probably cause issues anyway, it’s hard enough staying attentive to the road over long distances with relatively little going on. It might stop you leaving the lane when you fall asleep, but you’d be more likely to fall asleep I think?


Also what does it do in roadworks?

Mine doesn't kick in under 60km so roadworks aren't usually an issue, but there's definitely times on back country roads where you don't really want to be in the centre of the lane because the shoulder is in poor condition and you're fighting the car about it.

 

[Duster]

Hope he's not driving back with lane assist on - Superstar Demon leaves pre-season training camp in Lorne

 

[jannissary]

First thing I did when I got my new car in 2017 was turn that s**t off. I can see it being useful for country driving but in the city it's just downright dangerous. Feels like someone is grabbing the steering wheel and forcing you to go somewhere you don't want to go. Very disconcerting and with all the lines on the road you had to constantly fight the car to go the right way.

yeah i'm glad that i've basically only driven like... no car built before 2005, except for a few times i've driven my mom home from work drinks in her car.

keep it simple and easy, more distractions will cause more accidents

 

[brain taylor]

yeah i'm glad that i've basically only driven like... no car built before 2005, except for a few times i've driven my mom home from work drinks in her car.

keep it simple and easy, more distractions will cause more accidents

i wanna guess that they’re all japanese and all your cd stacks are filled with eurobeat

 

[jannissary]

i wanna guess that they’re all japanese and all your cd stacks are filled with eurobeat

i wish!

nah my current car is a 99 au falcon - only has a cassette deck in it though

 

[brain taylor]

i wish!

nah my current car is a 99 au falcon - only has a cassette deck in it though

basically what i envision when i think “initial d but australia”