Oppo Camp Non-Essendon Football Thread XVII

[joey_jo_jo]

Darcy Cameron anyone?

thought he had a pretty decent year but not as good as Marshall

 

[P Money]

thought he had a pretty decent year but not as good as Marshall

Or Gawn or Xerri or Sean Darcy or De Koning or Briggs or Grundy or really any other ruckman I can think of. But apart from that totally deserves his spot!

 

[joey_jo_jo]

Or Gawn or Xerri or Sean Darcy or De Koning or Briggs or Grundy or really any other ruckman I can think of. But apart from that totally deserves his spot!

Well Gawn and Xerri were selected, Darcy and De Koning missed a lot of games. I wouldve selected Briggs but personally thought Grundy was overhyped at start of year and fell off quite badly by end of year.
Grundy and english have really been impacted by the new ruck rules.

 

[yodellinhank]

I prefer pragmatic Ethan to aggressive Ethan, but I approve of this post.

I kind of like aggressive Ethan.

 

[faible]

Some quick stats for Darcy Cameron

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Darcy Cameron

Age

29

Ht

204cm

Wt

103kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

6.0

1star

K

3.3

1star

HB

2.7

2star

CL

0.3

2star

HO

5.3

5star

D

7.5

2star

K

4.5

2star

HB

3.0

2star

CL

0.5

3star

HO

3.5

5star

D

6.0

2star

K

3.3

2star

HB

2.7

3star

CL

0.3

2star

HO

5.3

5star

, amongst Ruckman he's (average per game):
9th for disposals
12th for hitouts
5th for marks
17th for goals
24th for tackles
23rd for i50s
15th for goal assists
12th for contested possessions
21st for marks i50
16th for clearances
17th for metres gained

2nd for intercepts
2nd for contested marks

I can only assume they weight intercepts and contested marks very heavily.

 

[joey_jo_jo]

Some quick stats for Darcy Cameron, amongst Ruckman he's (average per game):
9th for disposals
12th for hitouts
5th for marks
17th for goals
24th for tackles
23rd for i50s
15th for goal assists
12th for contested possessions
21st for marks i50
16th for clearances
17th for metres gained

2nd for intercepts
2nd for contested marks

I can only assume they weight intercepts and contested marks very heavily.

Im being a tad facetious but I think we would be in a much better spot if we valued contested marking as a key attribute for our ruckmen

 

[P Money]

I could only put it down to meeting the Collingwood quota in the AA squad (that and Buckley being on the panel). Absolute joke. Might as well get Billy Frampton

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Billy Frampton

Age

27

Ht

201cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.1

2star

K

5.1

2star

HB

4.0

3star

M

3.1

3star

T

0.7

3star

MG

99.0

2star

D

8.5

2star

K

4.8

2star

HB

3.8

3star

M

3.5

3star

T

0.5

1star

MG

99.0

2star

D

9.2

3star

K

5.6

3star

HB

3.6

3star

M

2.8

3star

T

1.0

3star

MG

107.0

2star

in to join him.

 

[Kong]

I kind of like aggressive Ethan.

nah **** off

 

[yodellinhank]

nah **** off

That's the way, line 'em up and knock 'em down.

 

[JayJ20]

I think Hawkes lose to dogs, but doesn't take away from a good season for them, won 14 games and played good footy in the final 6 rounds of the season, last time we won more than 12 games was a decade ago I think.

My thinking too. I think they would have beaten all of Fremantle, Brisbane and Carlton but are unlucky to play the Dogs who should beat them.

Still, their percentage of 118% is 9% higher than our best percentage in 23 years (109% in 2021). 14 wins also equals our highest wins during that period which we only achieved once (2013). Only year we won more than 12. We'd have to go back to 2001 for a better percentage and more wins.

That's why I don't disregard their achievements this year.

 

[Yoda_]

I prefer pragmatic Ethan to aggressive Ethan, but I approve of this post.

Good by you old fella

 

[naraku]

Looking at the flag I think I have to go for Geelong.

2. Brisbane- Joe and McKenna

3. GWS- 1st flag

4. Port - they annoy me but not as much as the next lot

5. Bulldogs- something about them bother me(maybe because they nearly always beat us).

6. Sydney- campainers

7. Dawks- bitter rivals even if it has probably lessened due to both teams sucking

8. SCUM- no explanation necessary.

 

[fairbump_playon]

Why is the Massimo thread locked? Was just about to post that he's in the AA squad.

Well done Brad/Dodo

No he’s not in the AA squad that’s just the imagination of disgruntled Essendon supporters greatly overestimating Massimo’s ability

 

[Inspecta Gadget]

Looking at the flag I think I have to go for Geelong.

2. Brisbane- Joe and McKenna

3. GWS- 1st flag

4. Port - they annoy me but not as much as the next lot

5. Bulldogs- something about them bother me(maybe because they nearly always beat us).

6. Sydney- campainers

7. Dawks- bitter rivals even if it has probably lessened due to both teams sucking

8. SCUM- no explanation necessary.

You want Joe to win a flag?

 

[DERO]

thought he had a pretty decent year but not as good as Marshall

Marshall is stiff.

Cam Raynor selection is perplexing. I remember watching his poor form/ inconsistency being discussed on at least one footy panel show earlier in the year. Statistically he was only very slightly better than last year. Definitely a fair bit of recency bias.

 

[DapperDon]

You want Joe to win a flag?

I'd be happy for Joe to win a flag

I don't blame any player for getting the **** out of this place.

 

[eth-dog]

You want Joe to win a flag?

I know many disagree but I have no issues with him. We dudded him as much as he dudded us.

Brisbane, Sydney, Giants are three I don't mind. Dogs and Cats don't care. I never really liked Port since Cornes and Brogan were bloody thugs but I'd rather them than Hawthorne or the Scum

 

[naraku]

You want Joe to win a flag?

Yup!

He has been particularly injury free since leaving our rabble.

He also tried to go leave earlier, of course, and gave Dodo and co MAXIMUM time and opportunity to get MAXIMUM return for him.
It's not Joe's fault Dodo ****ed it up(AGAIN) and we only got one pick for him.

We could have got more than 1 compensation pick for Joe and again, that's not his problem.

 

[Inspecta Gadget]

Yup!

He has been particularly injury free since leaving our rabble.

He also tried to go leave earlier, of course, and gave Dodo and co MAXIMUM time and opportunity to get MAXIMUM return for him.
It's not Joe's fault Dodo ****ed it up(AGAIN) and we only got one pick for him.

We could have got more than 1 compensation pick for Joe and again, that's not his problem.

Therein lies my main gripes with Joe. Don't blame him for wanting out. But from all reports he didn't really try his hardest to get back on the field for us in his last 3 seasons.

 

[MiguelM]

Well Gawn and Xerri were selected, Darcy and De Koning missed a lot of games. I wouldve selected Briggs but personally thought Grundy was overhyped at start of year and fell off quite badly by end of year.
Grundy and english have really been impacted by the new ruck rules.

What rules are they?

 

[Mercurial89]

Looking at the flag I think I have to go for Geelong.

2. Brisbane- Joe and McKenna

3. GWS- 1st flag

4. Port - they annoy me but not as much as the next lot

5. Bulldogs- something about them bother me(maybe because they nearly always beat us).

6. Sydney- campainers

7. Dawks- bitter rivals even if it has probably lessened due to both teams sucking

8. SCUM- no explanation necessary.

Giants for mine,
Followed by cats for the story and as another marker for their excellent football program.
I'd like hawks to go on a good run, enjoyable style and would be good reward for good management and coaching.

 

[BrewSmackerVeiny]

I can picture it now, Geelong vs Port Adelaide grand final, Geelong wins by 119 points. A repeat of '7 in '24, 24/7 humiliation is exactly what Poart deserve.

 

[joey_jo_jo]

What rules are they?

This was a brief analysis in April of the impact of the change and without looking at stats I think it had a bigger impact as the season went on

Turn off the tap: The small tweak changing ruckwork

Riley Beveridge has assessed the impact of the change in interpretation for ruck contests

www.afl.com.au

 

[Agronomus]

Why is the Massimo thread locked? Was just about to post that he's in the AA squad.

Well done Brad/Dodo

Why does it need to be open?

 

[Old Campaigner]

Why does it need to be open?

For the melts