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ScrappyCoCo said:
Say you catch covid and are vaccinated and it doesn't do much to you, but then next year you get it again (you have had you're booster shot) but are perhaps a bit more sick from a variant that stronger, then the following year you get a mild case...and so on. What happens after we have had it 10 times. We will be allowing it to come, and allowing us to get it multiple times. Will there be some sort of damage to our bodies that will eventually catch up with us and make really sick.
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No. The immune system doesn't work like that. Think of it like memories. For example - imagine yesterday you ate a really tasty looking jelly bean that was flavoured like a piece of dog shit and you ate it and thought, "this is really gross I am never doing that again". But then next year you see a piece of dog shit that looks delicious but that smells really similar to that jelly bean, and you take a really big sniff of it and it makes you a little woozy, but you remember that jelly bean flavoured dog shit that you ate last year, and decide not to eat it because it was nasty. And then the year after that, you come across another similar piece of dog shit that looks really tasty, but maybe this one is a different consistency, and so you have a little nibble, but then before you can go any further it triggers the memory of that dogshit flavoured jelly bean that you really didn't like, and you remember that it is a bad idea so you run away from that particular strain of dogshit.

its just like that.

The jelly bean is the vaccine, and covid is the dogshit.
 
ghostdog said:
In 2021? So that must have been after this in July;
Morrison requests ATAGI to update its advice to also recommend Astra Zeneca to over 60s

Actually, it was only withdrawn and labelled a banned substance in May this year. The makers claimed a decline in demand globally, of course; it causes fatal blood clots. Yes, quietly, as in the Opposition didn't make much noise about it given the cost and their bipartisan support at the time.

Astra Zeneca banned

So, looks like the anti-vax clowns were onto something 😊
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NEVER TALK ABOUT VACCINATION.
 
Jade said:
I mean the reason for phasing out AstraZeneca was announced in 2021, and the gradual removal finalised in 2023 - but yeah sure it was real hush hush.

****ing antivax clowns.
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I believe the question was "how many of those were purchased that we were compelled to have?"

You don't have to be anti-vax to question a particular vaccine.
 
I didn’t say it was banned in 2021.

But of course, antivax deadshits like to reinvent facts to suit their warped ideas.

Yeah antivaxxers are on to something alright; the ability to exist in a society of people substantially more intelligent than themselves.
 

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even a broken clock is correct twice each day...
 
ghostdog said:
In 2021? So that must have been after this in July;
Morrison requests ATAGI to update its advice to also recommend Astra Zeneca to over 60s

Actually, it was only withdrawn and labelled a banned substance in May this year. The makers claimed a decline in demand globally, of course; it causes fatal blood clots. Yes, quietly, as in the Opposition didn't make much noise about it given the cost and their bipartisan support at the time.

Astra Zeneca banned

So, looks like the anti-vax clowns were onto something 😊
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You are more chance to die jumping into your car and going down the shops but people still drive cars.
 
I got vaccinated 8 times because I heard one of the sides was increased penis size.
 
And that is just this month.
 
Jade said:
I didn’t say it was banned in 2021.

But of course, antivax deadshits like to reinvent facts to suit their warped ideas.

Yeah antivaxxers are on to something alright; the ability to exist in a society of people substantially more intelligent than themselves.
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No need to melt.
I know. You said it was banned in 2023. You were wrong. In fact, you reinvented something then, didn't you.

Did you even read the findings of the original document I posted?

It's a study of autopsy reports pre and post vaccination. It shows a huge discrepancy in death rates from a multiplicity of diseases pre and post vax. It also mentions the now scientific fact that AZ caused blood clots which led to death.

I'm not anti-vaccination. I had my shots 😊

But I also don't have the blinkers on. The findings are clear. There's a high likelihood of a causal link between the two.

Should we ask questions?
Goddamn right we should.
 

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ghostdog said:
If a fleet of cars has faulty seatbelts which has allowed people to die, should we ask questions of the manufacturer?
...and of the regulator?

...or should we turn a blind eye
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Think you will find that recall on cars happens when the fault is a large percentage of the vehicles.
What percentage of people who had the AZ vaccine died from a heart condition an how many actually stayed alive by having it and being able to survive Covid combined with whatever other health issues they had ?
You can stay in n this rabbit hole by yourself.
 
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DERO said:
Lilydale line?
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Pakenham/Cranbourne for me, but the Frankston, Belgrave & Lilydale lines are also all down this weekend so they can do stuff on the metro tunnel
 
ant555 said:
Think you will find that recall on cars happens when the fault is a large percentage of the vehicles.
What percentage of people who had the AZ vaccine died from a heart condition an how many actually stayed alive by having it and being able to survive Covid combined with whatever other health issues they had ?
You can stay in n this rabbit hole by yourself.
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So your response is, if most people lived and only some died, then all good.

Okay.
 
ghostdog said:
So your response is, if most people lived and only some died, then all good.

Okay.
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Medicines of all types have adverse reactions, they help more people than they harm.
 
ghostdog said:
Agreed. Doesn't mean questions shouldn't be asked.
People I know who work in hospital settings have got horror stories about this stuff.
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If the questions are being asked honestly with the right intentions then sure.

There's also a fair number of horror stories about people dying from covid.
I think the numbers were pretty stark, unvaccinated who got covid had a pretty high chance of adverse reactions.
Of the millions that got vaccinated, very very few had an adverse reaction.

No one dismisses the pain a vaccine injury can cause, but these types of discussions are usually brought up with an agenda.
 
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Kong said:
My memory could be letting me down, but didn't our governments acknowledge the deaths at the time, anyway?

I think I get what ghostdog is saying, but I also feel like none of this is new information.
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The findings in the paper that was released yesterday are new. They are pretty insightful as they pertain to increased death rates from multiple afflictions post vaccination, using autopsy and necropsy reports as the source.

IIRC, one increase pre and post that was cited was from 35 000 pre to more than 700 000 post. That kind of data shouldn't be a small concern. It also doesn't factor in under reporting (something I'm told by hospital people that many nursing staff were compelled to do).
 

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