Mega Thread Non-Freo AFL Discussion 2023

[Mags98]

it is interesting the afl deciding to make a change now following complaints from the pies and co. not much of a peep when daicos and JUH were going at the pointy end of the draft...

making changes now really just sets the advantage certain clubs have gotten in stone, everyone else will remain behind the 8 ball for a generation.

 

[Big Animal]

Inside word is we get to find out what milk Harley Reid drinks tomorrow in Friday's edition of The West

 

[Yeti]

That is mental.....

 

[Purple Suit]

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That is mental.....

They need to bring Nic Nat out of retirement to break the run.

 

[Fyfster]

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That is mental.....

Absolutely over the top , I would be embarrassed to be be an Eagles supporter at the moment .

 

[ImperialPurple]

Bloody hell that poor kid.

 

[Kram]

Honest to God that the first time I've seen what he looks like.

 

[Purple Jesus]

Absolutely over the top , I would be embarrassed to be be an Eagles supporter at the moment .

 

[Purple Jesus]

Honest to God that the first time I've seen what he looks like.

Got that 90's revival going on

 

[Taylor]

Like all Harley's there's a lot of noise surrounding him, I would really hope he gets to wind slowly into the year. Start as a sub, do a few great things, take the pressure off.

 

[holybishop]

Like all Harley's there's a lot of noise surrounding him, I would really hope he gets to wind slowly into the year. Start as a sub, do a few great things, take the pressure off.

I'd love to see him start in the WAFL. It would be a Judd situation but the discourse would be fun for a week.

 

[s_wd6]

it is interesting the afl deciding to make a change now following complaints from the pies and co. not much of a peep when daicos and JUH were going at the pointy end of the draft...

making changes now really just sets the advantage certain clubs have gotten in stone, everyone else will remain behind the 8 ball for a generation.

They changed the rules right after JUH didn't they?

But there's no point changing rules after it's happened because then the advantage that said team received is even larger. Everyone knew JUH was a top 2 pick, everyone knew GC had 4 academy prospects in the first round. Could have very easily changed the rules in advance to make it more fair.

But they only do that with our academy prospects (i.e. that ****ed up metro/rural rule that stopped us getting Motlop). Like I still can't get over just how ****ed up that rule was. Like it was made specifically for us. Like god forbid there's a rule that advantages WA more than VIC. I'll never get over that.

 

[BStaff17]

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That is mental.....

Lol i would have thought Australia beating India in the World Cup final deserved back page status on the Tuesday last week. With the final finishing monday morning.

 

[theGav56]

Lol i would have thought Australia beating India in the World Cup final deserved back page status on the Tuesday last week. With the final finishing monday morning.

Eh? I'm not even sure Reid plays cricket.

 

[Purple Suit]

They changed the rules right after JUH didn't they?

But there's no point changing rules after it's happened because then the advantage that said team received is even larger. Everyone knew JUH was a top 2 pick, everyone knew GC had 4 academy prospects in the first round. Could have very easily changed the rules in advance to make it more fair.

But they only do that with our academy prospects (i.e. that ****ed up metro/rural rule that stopped us getting Motlop). Like I still can't get over just how ****ed up that rule was. Like it was made specifically for us. Like god forbid there's a rule that advantages WA more than VIC. I'll never get over that.

It usually takes a gross injustice to raise attention. We got a pick 9 in Henry the year prior & JUH topped it off so they changed it.

We got more out of academies than other clubs. We also got 2 lifetime amazing trades from GC after they got hand outs. We’re doing alright out of the AFL equalisation farce, even if we had to get some indirectly.

 

[Taylor]

The rule change that I would argue caused the most issue is when the AFL required draft picks to match vacant list spots.

Prior to that a club with bulk picks in the 30s or 40s could trade them for a pick in the top ten easily. Academy clubs were bounced out of the first round and the rest of the competition could get in on that.

 

[Fyfster]

It usually takes a gross injustice to raise attention. We got a pick 9 in Henry the year prior & JUH topped it off so they changed it.

We got more out of academies than other clubs. We also got 2 lifetime amazing trades from GC after they got hand outs. We’re doing alright out of the AFL equalisation farce, even if we had to get some indirectly.

So getting Henry at 9 was a good result?

 

[pK75]

So getting Henry at 9 was a good result?

Apparent good enough for the AFL to bring in a bespoke “metro indigenous” category just for WA meaning we couldn’t match a bid for Motlop in the 20’s when Vic clubs could have.

 

[Fyfster]

Apparent good enough for the AFL to bring in a bespoke “metro indigenous” category just for WA meaning we couldn’t match a bid for Motlop in the 20’s when Vic clubs could have.

I rest my case

 

[Purple Suit]

So getting Henry at 9 was a good result?

We got more than most other clubs excluding the Northern Clubs, Bulldogs so I would say it was a good result. He didn’t work out for us but neither has any of the GC haul yet.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Apparent good enough for the AFL to bring in a bespoke “metro indigenous” category just for WA meaning we couldn’t match a bid for Motlop in the 20’s when Vic clubs could have.

That’s not the correct story though . Henry wasn’t even “metro”

 

[Taylor]

Fremantle didn't have access to Metro Indigenous talent prior to 2021 but the trade off for them being included, at local elder request, was that all academy players couldn't be matched before pick #40.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Motlop was though, which was the trigger for the AFL to have that category for 1 year, it spooked them that we may have an NGA production line with Henry then Motlop so they moved to stop it, the following year everyone got moved back to 40 so Collard couldn’t be matched by WC and we couldn’t match Edwards, now they are thinking of lowering it again as Pies have some top 40 players coming through.
Yes I know a couple of vic teams also missed out this year, but the constant changes means inequity for years to come.

I don’t believe that’s how it went. The NGAs were created, Elders from WA and SA did not like that the AFL was segregating indigenous boys by region and said it needed to basically be all or none. Because that would be unfair to other teams, they said ok, but Metro indigenous talent outside top 40 only.

That’s how I’ve always understood it.
Now, while technically unfair (think of all the incredible indigenous talent to come out of the state), some kind of advantage for the leper states of the AFL wouldn’t be the worst outcome…

 

[pK75]

I don’t believe that’s how it went. The NGAs were created, Elders from WA and SA did not like that the AFL was segregating indigenous boys by region and said it needed to basically be all or none. Because that would be unfair to other teams, they said ok, but Metro indigenous talent outside top 40 only.

That’s how I’ve always understood it.
Now, while technically unfair (think of all the incredible indigenous talent to come out of the state), some kind of advantage for the leper states of the AFL wouldn’t be the worst outcome…

I stand corrected.
Will be interesting to see what happens if they do reduce it back to 20, will the “Metro” come back into play

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

I stand corrected.
Will be interesting to see what happens if they do reduce it back to 20, will the “Metro” come back into play

Same, I think they'll bring it all up to 20 because otherwise it just looks ridiculous but I might be huffing the good stuff there