Official GIANTS trade period thread

[Scully2Folau]

We've had different trade ideas and rumours floating about in different threads, but with the trade period officially opening on Monday we might as well get all discussion/ideas/rumours into one thread.

On the table:
Mini-draft #1 - traded to GC
Mini-draft #2 - traded to Melb
Late round picks (#43, #62, #80)

Possibly on offer:
#20 (Adel 1st compo) - traded to Melb
#24 (GWS 2nd) - traded to StK
Jed Anderson (NT zone) - traded to Haw
Dom Barry (NT zone) - traded to Melb
Jon Giles (pending contract negotiations) - re-signed until end of 2015

Looking for:
Early 1st rounders (for MD picks) - got #2, #3 & #13 from GC and Melb
in trades and FA/uncontracted:
Medium-tall defenders - Gilham from Haw
Ruckmen (pending Giles) - re-signed Giles


Completed trades:
with GC:
in: #2 (GC 1st), GC end-1st compo (expires 2014), #63 (GC 4th)
out: MD1, GWS end-1st compo (expires 2015)

with StK
in: #12 (StK 1st)
out: Tom Lee (pre-listed), #24 (GWS 2nd), #43 (GWS 3rd)

with Melb:
in: #3, #13
out: MD2, #20, Dom Barry (NT zone)

with Port:
in: #29
out: Jack Hombsch, Jake Neade (NT zone)

With Haw:
in: Stephen Gilham, #28, #65
out: Jed Anderson (NT zone), #29, #68

Final balance for trade period:
in: #2, #3, #12, #14, #28, #65, #69, GC end-1st compo (exp. 2014), Stephen Gilham

out: MD1, MD2, GWS end-1st compo (exp. 2015), Jack Hombsch, #21, #25, #46, #68, Jed Anderson (NT), Dom Barry (NT), Jake Neade (NT), Tom Lee (pre-listed)

 

[captainMyCaptain]

While a lot could still happen during the trade period its look like neither Giles or Tyson are going anywhere
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/spo...to-young-ruckman/story-fnca0u4y-1226489504453

 

[dlanod]

While a lot could still happen during the trade period its look like neither Giles or Tyson are going anywhere
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/spo...to-young-ruckman/story-fnca0u4y-1226489504453

If that's correct then...

 

[Scully2Folau]

Great result if we start the trade period by re-signing Giles and re-affirming our position on Tyson (perhaps an extension, Dom?)

There's been a lot of talk surrounding Martin and Hogan for the mini-draft, but with Kelly's recent emergence the demand for the two picks can only increase. Inside Footy's Brett Anderson tweeted that the Dees and Dogs should be looking more at Hogan (i.e. MD2) as a better fit for them being a key forward prospect, which bodes well for the value of MD2 given their draft position(s).

 

[Rookie]

What are GWS fans thoughts on MD1 + MD2 + Jed Anderson for 5 + 6 + Markovic? Would the Bulldogs need to add something (Williams, Tom Campbell?) to make it worthwhile?

I see GWS trading the rights to players like Tom Lee, which hasn't been flagged much yet. Tom Lee would probably buy you a juicy pick upgrade that would be of use to you or possibly even a useable pick in its own right. How many more of these types of trades do GWS have left and will you guys pick up a few players to keep?

As a casual GWS follower I'd like to see a another big bodied ready to go defender added, and I'd like to see you guys trade for a draft pick that secures Grundy (if not a WBD pick then with Melbourne, maybe pick 4 for MD2 and something, maybe a second rounder and a prelisted player).

Grundy's the guy I want GWS to add the most. Saves you needing to waste time with a hack, Giles is great as a ruck / forward so it would make a deadly combination in 2-3 years.

I'd avoid blokes like Gillies who are bit players and don't have the strength to hold out a KPD post.

 

[snitzel]

At 25 years old I do not believe Markovic is worth much at all, it is a gamble and GWS is not looking for this type of player.

I think people need to realize MD picks 1 and 2 are basically picks 1 and 2 in next years draft but you can get them into your club right now and start developing them in the clubs fitness program and their reserves side.

Picks 1 and 2 is not worth 5 and 6, although I do hope GWS somehow gets them because they are great value.

 

[Sunny_]

Pick #2 for Martin + Anderson!

Sound like a deal?

 

[snitzel]

Pick 2 would get it done. Depends what everyone is going to do in the first 10 picks of the draft.

 

[Scully2Folau]

Pick #2 for Martin + Anderson!

Sound like a deal?

If we were the representatives at the trade table, I wouldn't walk away. Next step, would GC include their 2nd rounder? (for GWS to use in other trades)

 

[Sunny_]

If we were the representatives at the trade table, I wouldn't walk away. Next step, would GC include their 2nd rounder? (for GWS to use in other trades)

Hmm. Good question, one to which I'm not sure on. Pick #25 is our second rounder. What would you use it on?

 

[IanW]

What are GWS fans thoughts on MD1 + MD2 + Jed Anderson for 5 + 6 + Markovic? Would the Bulldogs need to add something (Williams, Tom Campbell?) to make it worthwhile?

Its overpaying. Anderson aint steak knives, and Marko is.

Im expecting 6 for MD1 from Doggies, and someone else for MD2 for a pick around 11 and a player. Geelong's end of first round compo pick plus their first plus steak knives may well happen as well.

 

[dlanod]

What are GWS fans thoughts on MD1 + MD2 + Jed Anderson for 5 + 6 + Markovic? Would the Bulldogs need to add something (Williams, Tom Campbell?) to make it worthwhile?

Keep Markovic and we have a deal!

More seriously, I'd see 5 + 6 for MD1 + our 2nd rounder + Anderson or Tom Lee as reasonably fair. If you consider a mini-draft pick to be worth a first rounder plus, you're getting value of two first rounders plus, plus a late first rounder/early second rounder, for two first round picks and Markovic. I don't think there'd be jumping for joy at GWS for that offer.

 

[Scully2Folau]

Hmm. Good question, one to which I'm not sure on. Pick #25 is our second rounder. What would you use it on?

Just more currency for other trades, we mightn't use anything beyond #20 (which could be the 4th pick)

 

[captainMyCaptain]

With Tippett off to the Swans and less room for the big Canadian should we look at trading for him. Would give us a solid ruck and also show Izzy what can be done through hard work, also wouldn't cost much.

 

[zorro1836]

LRT would be good as well, can play ruck,forward & back.

 

[IanW]

With Tippett off to the Swans and less room for the big Canadian should we look at trading for him. Would give us a solid ruck and also show Izzy what can be done through hard work, also wouldn't cost much.

I suspect Seaby is a more likely target than Pyke.

Remember, when the grand final was on the line, they subbed Mumford and left the Canadian on the paddock.

 

[THE_GUN]

At 25 years old I do not believe Markovic is worth much at all, it is a gamble and GWS is not looking for this type of player.

I think people need to realize MD picks 1 and 2 are basically picks 1 and 2 in next years draft but you can get them into your club right now and start developing them in the clubs fitness program and their reserves side.

Picks 1 and 2 is not worth 5 and 6, although I do hope GWS somehow gets them because they are great value.

No they are not , More 3-5 atm but they may end up becoming 1 & 2 but cold also end up being 10-15 depending on how they go next year and how other players perform.

Last year O;Meara & Crouch were stand outs and well worth what GC & Crows coughed up - this year is weaker

But in saying that Lee & Anderson shouldnt be looked at as just steaknives they are quality in their own right

 

[Scully2Folau]

@emmasq
Mini-draft talks have slowed up a bit. The Dogs-GWS-Richmond trade won't happen. Coll, Melb, Dogs & possibly Geelong all keen for a pick

Goes on to say Collingwood are trying to get a high pick to trade in.

 

[Scully2Folau]

@spironikola
@emmasq so sad Emma . What does that mean for Tyson ?

@emmasq
@spironikola he's fine, he's happy there

 

[Obeanie1]

What would Jed Anderson be worth on his own?

Would love him at the Eagles.

 

[kulak]

I suspect Seaby is a more likely target than Pyke.

Remember, when the grand final was on the line, they subbed Mumford and left the Canadian on the paddock.

Wasn't Mumford injured?

 

[Mountain Giant]

LRT won't go anywhere. And unless Pyke decides he should be a full-time starting ruckman he won't either.

If we didn't get Seaby for this season I doubt we will for next.

In terms of trading MD picks etc. we should do what it takes to be able to draft Whitfield and Grundy. Any thing less than that.. Then I would say maximum number of picks especially compo picks. I seriously would give the two MDs to GC for 2.

 

[IanW]

What would Jed Anderson be worth on his own?

Would love him at the Eagles.

He's a mid-first round pick in value.

 

[Obeanie1]

He's a mid-first round pick in value.

Thats what I've read / heard.

Maybe late 1st to early second as technically in this sort of tradeGWS are giving up nothing and getting a pretty decent pick.

Shame Koby Stevens isn't interested in GWS.

 

[dlanod]

Thats what I've read / heard.

Maybe late 1st to early second as technically in this sort of tradeGWS are giving up nothing and getting a pretty decent pick.

Shame Koby Stevens isn't interested in GWS.

In this case we would be giving up something - Jed Anderson. I'd much rather have him on our list.