I think TD there is a fair chance he goes past Cox and also Cameron,Oscar,s run out of energy not talent.I can Actually see this time next year that Steene will go past Cox as our KPF and 2nd Ruck
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I think TD there is a fair chance he goes past Cox and also Cameron,Oscar,s run out of energy not talent.I can Actually see this time next year that Steene will go past Cox as our KPF and 2nd Ruck
The picture of him and NN was taken last season,just because he is not 7ft tall does not mean he is less a player than your favourite he will go straight past both Cox and Cameron.The shortest 203 cm player I have ever seen!
It was St Kilda that made the first move in this strange series of events. Markov had been joined at Collingwood by fellow train-on player Oscar Steene, a 201cm ruck that the club was considering adding to support Darcy Cameronand Mason CoxPLAYERCARDSTART14Darcy Cameron
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- 29
- Ht
- 204cm
- Wt
- 103kg
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- Ruck
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- D
- 6.0
- 1star
- K
- 3.3
- 1star
- HB
- 2.7
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- CL
- 0.3
- 2star
- HO
- 5.3
- 5star
- D
- 7.5
- 2star
- K
- 4.5
- 2star
- HB
- 3.0
- 2star
- CL
- 0.5
- 3star
- HO
- 3.5
- 5star
- D
- 6.0
- 2star
- K
- 3.3
- 2star
- HB
- 2.7
- 3star
- CL
- 0.3
- 2star
- HO
- 5.3
- 5star
PLAYERCARDEND.PLAYERCARDSTART46Mason Cox
- Age
- 33
- Ht
- 211cm
- Wt
- 110kg
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- F/R
CareerSeasonLast 5
- D
- 8.7
- 2star
- K
- 5.2
- 2star
- HB
- 3.5
- 3star
- M
- 4.0
- 4star
- T
- 1.6
- 4star
- G
- 1.2
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- D
- 6.0
- 1star
- K
- 3.0
- 1star
- HB
- 3.0
- 2star
- M
- 2.3
- 2star
- T
- 0.3
- 1star
- G
- 1.0
- 4star
- D
- 9.0
- 3star
- K
- 5.4
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- HB
- 3.6
- 3star
- M
- 2.6
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- T
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- G
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Steene had impressed during his month at Collingwood, so much so that word of his talent was circulating. It led to St Kilda, also looking for ruck depth at the time, offering the youngster a contract and forcing the Pies into action.
By Friday, February 3, Markov's time at Collingwood was done. He was told the next weekend that the club's vacant list spot would be filled by Steene, leaving him once again without a footballing home.
It has been like having your cake and eating it too getting both of them the pair of them have slotted in well. Marshall at St Kilda is a very good ruck I always thought Oscar was steal at the place where we were able to get him, him and Ned would be a great pairing as I think Steene could be more than handy up forward as shown by some of his marking. He was very good early on and ruckman is a tough position for anyone let alone a 19 yr old and that was why Moyle is so good because of his age,bloody Suns got 2 high class rucks from under our nose and we should pay them back by pinching Ned back.We thought it was just DC's injury that spurred us into action, but turns out, it was St Kilda who tried to steal Oscar from us. Explains why we gave him a 2 year contract
Out of the Blue: Pie's wild ride culminates in unlikely GF
Pies defender Oleg Markov's 2023 has been a wild ride, one that will continue in Saturday's Toyota AFL Grand Finalwww.afl.com.au
I like what I see in Steene. His ruck craft is raw but he's young and will improve.We thought it was just DC's injury that spurred us into action, but turns out, it was St Kilda who tried to steal Oscar from us. Explains why we gave him a 2 year contract
Out of the Blue: Pie's wild ride culminates in unlikely GF
Pies defender Oleg Markov's 2023 has been a wild ride, one that will continue in Saturday's Toyota AFL Grand Finalwww.afl.com.au
His talent and potential has been on show, some meat on those bones and a few more pre-seasons, and he'll be something special.I like what I see in Steene. His ruck craft is raw but he's young and will improve.
I doubt it. The downside of moving someone onto the rookie list is that you have to delist him and they then become forever a DFA whenever out of contract. To me, it's an option for players who are contracted and little chance of making it - and if that's the case with him, why did we give him an extension at all.We might look to him back on the rookie list and free up a spot.
It might be different because he's a ruckman. A very speculative ruckman. I know he's being pumped up a bit but he is really average atm. The odd contested mark in the VFL doesn't make him a future star. Put him on the rookie list, ruckman are easily replacedI doubt it. The downside of moving someone onto the rookie list is that you have to delist him and they then become forever a DFA whenever out of contract. To me, it's an option for players who are contracted and little chance of making it - and if that's the case with him, why did we give him an extension at all.
With Steene and Smit do either or both have the ability to clunk marks and rest up forward?
I think the ruck spot is the one position that I generally prefer another club do the development and then we grab them. I equate it to the wicket keeper in cricket.
My view is if you are going to shift a kid like Steene on to the rookie list - why the hell did we re-sign him? Move him out the door.It might be different because he's a ruckman. A very speculative ruckman. I know he's being pumped up a bit but he is really average atm. The odd contested mark in the VFL doesn't make him a future star. Put him on the rookie list, ruckman are easily replaced
In 2023, Steene took some good grabs. Went missing a heap and didn't look that likely in the ruck though.
Probably due to him being a ruckman. if he was a flanker, it might be different.My view is if you are going to shift a kid like Steene on to the rookie list - why the hell did we re-sign him? Move him out the door.
We can't just move him there. That was a temporary rule when they cut senior lists due to covid, but that's gone. You have to add rookies through rookie draft, SSP or MSD, which means delisting.Is this in reference to delisting and re-drafting?
If so, that is no longer the case, we can simply move him there.
I don’t believe that constitutes a delist.
Without being overly negative, he has a long way to go but he does have some good attributes. Besides Smit, he's the only other ruck we have in reserveIs he good enough as a forward or are we just wasting our time and a list spot?
Ruckman can be a slow slow burn, so to me it's often a wasted list spot.
Agree, but not sure about the too many suitors. He was an SSP and didn't really perform far above his previous SA state league form in 2023. Then missed this year with injury.If we were gonna re-rookie him, then we would have delisted and rookied. But no, we re-signed him, so would be a big backflip and there would be too many suitors for him.
We only put him on the senior list 12 months ago.
St kilda tried to poach him early on. I just remember reading an article where it mentioned he had interest from other suitors. Imagine st kilda would have tried again.Agree, but not sure about the too many suitors. He was an SSP and didn't really perform far above his previous SA state league form in 2023. Then missed this year with injury.
THE RUCK merry-go-round continues to thin, with Collingwood's Oscar Steene and Fremantle's Liam Reidy among the untried talls on the cusp of re-signing at their current clubs.
Steene and Reidy both attracted a handful of interest from ruck-needy clubs across the competition, though the Pies and the Dockers are in advanced negotiations to lock away both players to respective one-year extensions.
Can't see any reason why they can't just expand senior lists to include "normal" rookies and just have 3 Cat Bs?We can't just move him there. That was a temporary rule when they cut senior lists due to covid, but that's gone. You have to add rookies through rookie draft, SSP or MSD, which means delisting.
I agree. It's a stupid distinction and clubs are forced to do nonsensical stuff as there are mandates on number of rookie vs main list guys and rookies have salary cap exemptions. I can't see a single advantage or purpose of them being categorised differently.Can't see any reason why they can't just expand senior lists to include "normal" rookies and just have 3 Cat Bs?
Without being overly negative, he has a long way to go but he does have some good attributes. Besides Smit, he's the only other ruck we have in reserve