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Got to limit the number of games in a season. Really each team should play every other team home and away. Twice only. Why is this so hard to sort out?
 
kaiserchief13 said:
Png I'm sure is commercially viable given their population and it's the most popular sport, but no foreigners will want to live there. They going to get triple the salary cap to retain staff and players?
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They wouldn't be able to safely run the side there, only option would be call them PNG but base them in QLD.
 

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Hap Hapablap said:
Looks like they've been pushed out with wa the front runners with the bears

I just want a team here and if it means. Getting into marriage with a very historical club so be it


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Perth deserve a team.

They will have support here in Sydney as well with North Sydney fans for the away games.

Probably more how Perth embrace the fact they have a team with heritage links to Sydney.
 
Where will their players come from? I don't think the PNG national team had any NRL players lining up for them in the recent Pacific Cup competition and I doubt they're going to convince someone of PNG heritage like Xavier Coates to leave a team like the Storm/Broncos to live in a place like Port Moresby. Unless there's a lot of money involved, but even then they're going to run into salary cap issues. It's going to take years/decades before their developmental programs start regularly producing NRL calibre talent to feed the NRL team, so they can't even rely on that.

I see a lot of logistical issues with this idea. I know the federal government/Albanese are trying to use this as a way of strengthen relations with PNG, but it just seems like a venture that's fraught with danger.
 
Ivelisse said:
It'll be a Queensland-based team with Papua New Guinea branding, yeah?
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There were a few potential options including basing the team in Cairns. But there is now a strong push for the team to live in Port Moresby. A village will be built for players and they will live in accommodation based on their family situation. It will include all the creature comforts that they are used to try and entice players there.
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Jatz said:
****ing stupid decision that's been made for money and political purposes.

VLandys continues to outdo himself, the greasy ****.
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Don't agree, it makes sense. RL stronghold, they will get the crowds, and they need a team there, every game sent there has been packed. You are a better bet selling those games than going to Perth against 2 AFL teams and whatever other sports they do there. RL is a religion in PNG, we are mad not having a team based there.

The question is the logistics, mainly attracting payers but could they for instance get an Alex Johnson from Souths for the first year or so, for instance. I am not across the attracting players stuff. Think this is the area that could be the query BUT if that checks out, they were the standout bid for me.
 
LukeParkerno1 said:
Don't agree, it makes sense. RL stronghold, they will get the crowds, and they need a team there, every game sent there has been packed. You are a better bet selling those games than going to Perth against 2 AFL teams and whatever other sports they do there. RL is a religion in PNG, we are mad not having a team based there.

The question is the logistics, mainly attracting payers but could they for instance get an Alex Johnson from Souths for the first year or so, for instance. I am not across the attracting players stuff. Think this is the area that could be the query BUT if that checks out, they were the standout bid for me.
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That's incredibly subjective.

Selling out one off games is very different to selling out a season.

This is all forgetting he's got Albo into bed to splash the cash to make it happen. It's ****ing gross.

But you've also hit the nail on the head. They won't be competitive, no one will want to go play there as they won't want to live there for the season. They can't be based in QLD if they truly want to be PNG but there'll be very few that want to go live there for 7/8 months of the year.

Perth should absolutely have been next but a second NZ team also would've worked. PNG should've been way down the list.
 
Jatz said:
That's incredibly subjective.

Selling out one off games is very different to selling out a season.

This is all forgetting he's got Albo into bed to splash the cash to make it happen. It's ****ing gross.

But you've also hit the nail on the head. They won't be competitive, no one will want to go play there as they won't want to live there for the season. They can't be based in QLD if they truly want to be PNG but there'll be very few that want to go live there for 7/8 months of the year.

Perth should absolutely have been next but a second NZ team also would've worked. PNG should've been way down the list.
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You are more likely to sell games in PNG than Perth. What has Perth changed since last time? You still are up against two AFL sides, there are only so many sport fans that want to go to live sport there. I'm just not seeing it with Perth, this is Gold Coast all over again which has hardly worked.

The recruitment in PNG will be the hardest part, but if there are guarantees and plans there, I'm all for it. Purely from a RL point it is a RL stronghold, we are nuts to not go there. Do I love what Albo has done no, but taking that aside it's a great idea to expand there
 
Ivelisse said:
Those "20k every week" are unlikely to be paying what a NRL ticket is worth in Australia. A "sure bet" wouldn't need Australian Government subsidisation.
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Half the NSW clubs barely get 10k anyway. It makes sense purely for tv to sell another market. Not as if we need another NZ yet (not against the NZ side being the 20th though)
 
There's a fair few Kumuls playing in SL they might look to attract, and they might be more up for it than NRL stars like Coates.
 
Jatz said:
Wot?
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Manly barely do half their games, you wouldn't say Cronulla would be much higher than that, Roosters are lucky they are winning, they are terrible when they aren't.

PNG is perfect, it's sure better than all the alternatives, more likely to be successful than Perth at least. Having government backing for PNG is not a bad thing, the game needs the finances.
 
LukeParkerno1 said:
Manly barely do half their games, you wouldn't say Cronulla would be much higher than that, Roosters are lucky they are winning, they are terrible when they aren't.

PNG is perfect, it's sure better than all the alternatives, more likely to be successful than Perth at least. Having government backing for PNG is not a bad thing, the game needs the finances.
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I don't know what you've been paying attention to but you're categorically wrong.

Manly had an average crowd of over 16k last season. Cronulla averaged over 11k (mostly due to the actual capacity of that shithole they call home), the Roosters averaged over 20k last year.

There was only 18 games in the whole season that were below 10k in attendance.

It's not better than Perth. I've still yet to see a proper response to illustrate how it's a better proposition to Perth. Perth has state government backing by the way so money isn't an answer there.
 
Jatz said:
I don't know what you've been paying attention to but you're categorically wrong.

Manly had an average crowd of over 16k last season. Cronulla averaged over 11k (mostly due to the actual capacity of that shithole they call home), the Roosters averaged over 20k last year.

There was only 18 games in the whole season that were below 10k in attendance.

It's not better than Perth. I've still yet to see a proper response to illustrate how it's a better proposition to Perth. Perth has state government backing by the way so money isn't an answer there.
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Perth went just so well last time, I'll be blunt here, it won't work (or at least it's very hard to) in an AFL mad town. Look at how long it's taken Melbourne to be that way and they have had all time greats in the game and a coach in the best 2-3 that has ever coached the game. You are MUCH better to expand to areas that are RL strongholds, it's why I've been onboard with another one in QLD (around Cairns makes sense or a genuine second Brisbane side though I'm less enthusiastic about doing the latter. PNG is an area where RL is a religion over there it is that big, my one advice would be go there for a game you'll realise it, I've been to 4 games over there, don't think Australians realise just how big RL is over there, they adore RL. For me it should have come in when Redcliffe did. They will get 18k every week there, the government has agreed to building new facilities for the stadium, players, etc too it's a fantastic bid.

Roosters are lucky they are winning it's a mile worse when they aren't. There are already too many teams in NSW there's not the fans, not as if we can pull another million fans out of thin air especially with the changing scope of society in Sydney, more
 
LukeParkerno1 said:
Perth went just so well last time, I'll be blunt here, it won't work (or at least it's very hard to) in an AFL mad town. Look at how long it's taken Melbourne to be that way and they have had all time greats in the game and a coach in the best 2-3 that has ever coached the game. You are MUCH better to expand to areas that are RL strongholds, it's why I've been onboard with another one in QLD (around Cairns makes sense or a genuine second Brisbane side though I'm less enthusiastic about doing the latter. PNG is an area where RL is a religion over there it is that big, my one advice would be go there for a game you'll realise it, I've been to 4 games over there, don't think Australians realise just how big RL is over there, they adore RL. For me it should have come in when Redcliffe did. They will get 18k every week there, the government has agreed to building new facilities for the stadium, players, etc too it's a fantastic bid.

Roosters are lucky they are winning it's a mile worse when they aren't. There are already too many teams in NSW there's not the fans, not as if we can pull another million fans out of thin air especially with the changing scope of society in Sydney, more
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They're far better set up this time then last. And if Melbourne can work in an AFL town, Perth certainly can. There's far more English and SA ex pats over there, they'll be fine.

I agree in expanding into RL heartlands. The first one simply had to be a second NZ team. Should be a game in NZ every week.

That's great they love RL, that doesn't mean it's a sustainable, nor, viable situation for an NRL license. Should've been selling games there before committing a whole team.
 
Jatz said:
They're far better set up this time then last. And if Melbourne can work in an AFL town, Perth certainly can. There's far more English and SA ex pats over there, they'll be fine.

I agree in expanding into RL heartlands. The first one simply had to be a second NZ team. Should be a game in NZ every week.

That's great they love RL, that doesn't mean it's a sustainable, nor, viable situation for an NRL license. Should've been selling games there before committing a whole team.
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NZ isn’t heartland it’s a Union country in general (netball is big too), everyone there mostly grows up wanting to be an All Black. One NZ side is plenty, PNG should be before them at least.

Melbourne works as they had/have the players which guarantees success, and the best coach in the modern era. Success helps when building, just far from convinced Perth will be any better than last time.
 

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