Coaching Staff Past Coach: Matthew Knights - Finally gets his second shot - 5/5

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Slattery_20 said:
No Kelly?
Ablett, Bartel, Corey, Enright just did not look like 4 dominating guns of the competition at that stage. No way known.
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James Kelly played 18 games for the season, didn't play in the game though.
Geelong were really good at rotating their young players through.

Max Rooke and Josh Hunt also played games that season.
 
Murph_S13 said:
I watched Chooseday Night Football on Foxtel the other night. 15th-placed Geelong playing first-placed Port in 2005. Astonishing how many of those players in that 15th-placed team, with the coach being scheduled for weekly decapitation, stood on a dais, with that same coach, just two years later to accept the premiership cup after an astonishing run of wins. Who would have thought, in 2005, that that 15th-placed Geelong team would become so dominant in less than two years and dominate the competition for the next three years (and counting)?

I wasn't pleased with the decision to appoint Knights, but he has won me over completely. I thought we'd be a joke, like Richmond have been, and we've been a whole lot better than that, even at our worst.
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First... it was 03. And its not odd to see sides within 4 years improve a lot, depending on who is at the helm and the crop of players. Sheedy 97-2000, Matthews 98-2001 and Thompson 03-2007... but knights doesn't hold a candle to any of those guys.

Second... that joke of a team called richmond beat us last year... so wouldn't that mean that at our worst... richmond beat us? then again, the dockers, eagles and kangas all beat us...

Third... flick knights out immediately and appoint hird, lloyd and co. success and appreciation of essendon's culture, not a... at best 'good player' who captained a shocking side. knights was a front runner himself, no surprise there is a lack of defensive elements throughout the midfield
 

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Evo86 said:
First... it was 03. And its not odd to see sides within 4 years improve a lot, depending on who is at the helm and the crop of players. Sheedy 97-2000, Matthews 98-2001 and Thompson 03-2007... but knights doesn't hold a candle to any of those guys.
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There is no way a semi intelligent person being objective in this thread is going to say that the Knights of 2010 cannot hold a candle to the Thompson of 2003. A coach is invariably nothing before he wins his first premiership.
 
I keep seeing comments every now and then along the lines of "sack Knights and appoint Hird". This is not going to happen, not now anyway. Rewind about 8 months...

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/i-wont-coach-james-hird/story-0-1225757605604
  • James Hird
  • August 04, 2009 12:00AM

EXCLUSIVE: I WILL not be assistant coach at Port Adelaide or any other club next year.



Not because I am against coaching Port, but because I am not ready to be a coach.
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http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/i-wont-coach-james-hird/story-0-1225757605604

IMO, if Hirdy does decide he wants to coach, he'll be an assistant coach for a year or 2 then take on a head coaching position. Just sayin...
 
Longy413 said:
It was 03, I saw the game and actually thought the same myself.

They had the following from their 2007 Premiership side playing -

Ablett, Gary
Bartel, Jimmy
Chapman, Paul
Corey, Joel
Enright, Corey
Harley, Tom
Johnson, Steve
King, Steven
Ling, Cameron
Milburn, Darren
Scarlett, Matthew
Wojcinski, David

Plus Brett Moloney playing this first game.
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These guys arn't premiership players they are the core of the premiership side and in 2007 of the 11 names only Wojcinski and maybe King would not be the 10 firts picked.
 
When the HELL does this moron coach of ours realise that this "handball at ALL costs, especially when in the middle of a ****ing pack" DOES NOT WORK!!!!!! FFS!!!!!
 

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Re: Moron coach

"Mate", it's the players playing to the game plan! This guy's got no F'ing idea. Winless season with Bendigo and now we'll be lucky to win another game. Get rid of this clown NOW! He's an embarrassment. Start a collection to pay him out and I'll be the first to contribute.
 
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You idiot. Do you think the white board before the game is titled "handball to players underpressure"?

NLM, Dyson (although the rest of his game has actually been pretty good) Welsh are three players who stood out as guys who just kept making the wrong decisions. They give the ball to players who are not moving or they give it to guys who have to turn around to dispose. A player is always going to call for the ball the onus is on the guy with the ball to make the right choice.

We cannot get win the ball other than when it spills out of a contest or even get a free to go our way. Collingwood is putting so much pressure on we cannot get any clean possession.
 
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FootyStar#1 said:
moron coach? mate its the ****ing players who are idiotically handballing it to pressured teammates. what a joke, game over and its only quarter time
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So who takes training? Who drafted the players?

You cant always blame the players when you have shit coaches and your recruitor has more misses than hits.
 
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FootyStar#1 said:
moron coach? mate its the ****ing players who are idiotically handballing it to pressured teammates. what a joke, game over and its only quarter time
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No mate, it's the moron coach. Everybody knows Knights only has "Plan A: Running the ball" Normally opposition coaches kid themselves we wouldn't do that every week, give us 5 minutes before blocking that option and shutting us out; it's just that today Malthouse has backed the odds and shut us out from the first bounce. It isn't going to get any better unfortunately, today or all season.

Even Tim Watson and Cometti have just been wondering if there is a Plan B!
 
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Players play the game. The coach sets up the gameplan. Don't go blaming the gameplan on the players, decision making yes but not gameplan. Towards the end of that quarter almost equal possessions yet getting smashed on the scoreboard.

Knights grow the **** up, admit your game plan is not working and improve it.
 
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No, you're the idiot. Perfect example was Stanton toward the end of the quarter took the ball around CHB. Facing our goals with room to kick forward but looked sideways for a handball. None there and the couple of seconds gave Collingwood a chance to close in - lucky he still had time to kick - this is the GAME PLAN !!! Not the players - they look shit because of the way f'ing Knights drills them.
 
Goodknight

gotta admit, ive been wrong on Knights. we have stalled and stalled badly

watched our games over the last few weeks. Absolutely no gameplan.

key backs in Pears, Fletcher and Hooker. All are good, yet cannot stem the goals from the turnovers.

middle is just non-existent. cannot penetrate, are never there to stop the rebound.

forwards. Hille, Ryder, Hurley, Gumbleton, Monfries. All great targets.

yet we go nowhere.

we need to learn to kick. we need to learn not to handball under pressure (a turnover 30-40m upfield is better than in the backline).

i like the running we do, but we need a better plan. if we end up 2-8 @rd 10, Knighta has to feel the pressure
 
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The opposition know we will handball under pressure and so basically bulldog us, attack the man confident they won't be caught out of position.

It is pitiful, it is Knights, and I for one believe the club needs to sack Knights and get Malthouse to sign on for next year, if only to get them to develop some sort of gameplan that isn't pathetic when under pressure.
 
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Dr Moose said:
No mate, it's the moron coach. Everybody knows Knights only has "Plan A: Running the ball" Normally opposition coaches kid themselves we wouldn't do that every week, give us 5 minutes before blocking that option and shutting us out; it's just that today Malthouse has backed the odds and shut us out from the first bounce. It isn't going to get any better unfortunately, today or all season.

Even Tim Watson and Cometti have just been wondering if there is a Plan B!
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It would appear Ratten cannot even get a plan A v Ess! How do we manage to lose????
 

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