Patersons Stadium (Subiaco Oval) - Discussion

[RedV3x]

Seriously when does concrete catch on fire - there was no fuel it couldn’t burn down

Well there's the highly flammable and toxic plastic.
Concrete explodes at a modest temperature.

 

[RedV3x]

They should have rebuilt Subi

Subiaco was probably the least favoured option.

Optus is a soulless piece of shit

I would have said that about subiaco.

Are we all absolute plebs who need to travel by train

Enough of us care about the environment to use public transport.

and visit one crap pub

Not all of us are addicted alcoholics.

unless our legs want to fall off.

Not all of us are ill-conditioned slobs.

I don’t want to visit the casino either

You don't have to, but it is still a contentious point about financial support.

 

[Mr_Bojangles]

They should have rebuilt Subi - Optus is a soulless piece of shit


Are we all absolute plebs who need to travel by train and visit one crap pub unless our legs want to fall off.

I don’t want to visit the casino either

I'm not sure if I've bitten here but there are choices around Claisebrook and the walk around the river to the bridge is quite spectacular. You desperate for a beer? Take a walk if you don't want to go to the Camfield.

As much as I hate to see historic grounds go Subiaco was a shit of a place to get in and out of with 40,000. God knows who it would have been with 60k.

What annoys me thought with Subi going is they said they couldn't expand because of the state housing across the road but now you go past and that has all been demolished now too.

 

[RedV3x]

I'm not sure if I've bitten here but there are choices around Claisebrook and the walk around the river to the bridge is quite spectacular.

There were places available other than the proposed few.
Why not on the Esplanade itself or the causeway end.

 

[kranger]

Again, missed making mention that the three tier stand was built behind the goals as it was meant to be the first stage of rotating the field to a north-south orientation, but they never went through with it.

 

[errant bounce]

Again, missed making mention that the three tier stand was built behind the goals as it was meant to be the first stage of rotating the field to a north-south orientation, but they never went through with it.

Has this ever been confirmed or is it a recent bigfooty-ism? there's an important road and an essential train line either side, it wouldn't have fit. I know the Fremantle Line was closed for a while but I just had a look but that wasn't until 1979 – well after the three-tier stand was planned and built.

 

[Billy ray]

1965


1969

 

[Billy ray]

1975

 

[Billy ray]

1979





1998 i think, lights in but eastern end not done and that weird looking two blocks thing stood on its own on the forward flank

 

[RedV3x]

Has this ever been confirmed or is it a recent bigfooty-ism? there's an important road and an essential train line either side, it wouldn't have fit.

The WAFC owned the row of houses next to the train line and the road only serviced the houses in a dead end.
It was always designed to fit. Worst cases scenario is air space over the railway line.

I know the Fremantle Line was closed for a while but I just had a look but that wasn't until 1979 – well after the three-tier stand was planned and built.

The Fremantle line was closed for the construction of sinking the railway through Subiaco.
That was a simple process of scooping out a sand trench with concrete buttresses.

 

[its been done]

1998 i think, lights in but eastern end not done and that weird looking two blocks thing stood on its own on the forward flank

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From what I read on the late-2000s assessment of the ground, that was actually considered a part of the what would later be known as the NAB Stand, same with that also small bit in between the NAB and 3 tiered stands

 

[errant bounce]

The WAFC owned the row of houses next to the train line and the road only serviced the houses in a dead end.
It was always designed to fit. Worst cases scenario is air space over the railway line.

I'm talking about Roberts Road. sorry, probably should have been more clear about that. the space between that road and the railway line is nowhere near big enough to fit in a football oval.

Those recently posted photos also show that the three-tier stand had a curve to it that sat appropriate to a goal-end boundary; wouldn't you design the curvature of it to fit a flank? shouldn't it be straighter if it's going to sit along the wing boundary of a football ground?

There was plenty of space with the parkland at either goal end but one looked directly into the sun during times when football is played and the other didn't; I genuinely think that's why it ended up where it did. space, ease of construction, sight and experience, and then some whacky old 60s thinking. I just don't buy that the ground was going to be aligned.

 

[RedV3x]

I'm talking about Roberts Road.

At first glance the space at Robert's Road is insufficient for a stand, but the three tier stand was extremely narrow and about as wide as the stand eventually built on the wing.

I just don't buy that the ground was going to be re-aligned.

It definitely was going to re-aligned hence the purchase of property adjacent to the railway.
Think of the design back then not Optus Oval vintage.

 

[budge27]

Seriously when does concrete catch on fire - there was no fuel it couldn’t burn down

Seriously? The place is full plastic seats and yes they burn…