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Perth Stadium (Optus Stadium)
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Haha not sure I have heard of many casino going broke.
6.50pm in Perth is a fair time. 5.40 is ridiculous
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Your running on feelings too here i think.
In the case of the MCG in particular, most of the funding for upgrades comes from the MCC members and the AFL (Government funding accounted for just $70 million of the 450 million spend on the Northern Stand for the Commonwealth Games in 2002). The state well and truly gets its money back on it through the 2.5 - 3 million people that go through its gates every year . ANZ Stadium was mostly built through private investment, and has well and truly repaid the 100 million or so the Government spent on it over the last 15 years.
Its not just about direct stadium returns either, its economic impact on the city - this is the cited prime driver behind the move to Adelaide Oval, instead of the proposed West Lakes upgrade, its supposed to - and has - revitalise the city.
For those of us interested in the stadium management deal (particularly its involvement with WA footy generally through the WAFC), I see Spotless have lost the Suncorp Stadium contract* (Brisbane) after 31 years - this after an ASX profit downgrade (similarity to Dick Smith?).
Spotless has been shortlisted for Perth through its Nationwide Venue Management arm.
Uncertainty wont do their prospects any good.
*http://www.canberratimes.com.au/bus...contract-to-obrien-group-20160110-gm2re9.html
Spotless has been shortlisted for Perth through its Nationwide Venue Management arm.
Uncertainty wont do their prospects any good.
*http://www.canberratimes.com.au/bus...contract-to-obrien-group-20160110-gm2re9.html
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Strictly speaking Spotless only had the catering contract through Epicure (who also does the MCG). AEG Ogden (another bidder for the Perth Stadium management role) won management rights at Suncorp in 2015. (This same company apparently assisted with the Perth stadium feasibility study, and already manages Perth Arena.
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yeah i left out that Spotless held the contract through Epicure. No wait! I didnt.
They have started excavation on the south western edge of the site, for placement of the footbridge to Gloucester Park.
They have created a nice diversion of the foot / bike path, to accommodate the excavations.
They have created a nice diversion of the foot / bike path, to accommodate the excavations.
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Another narrow ground?
Short term, it works well yes. But it's a shambles. The West Leederville train station, as the servicing station, is a joke. Try leaving after the game to go through the underpass. Burswood is the most expensive, because it is the first major stadium (apart from the Subiaco Oval redevelopment in the late 90s) to be built from scratch in WA history as well as a purpose built train station. Yes WACA and Subiaco have always had renovations but it's just prolonging the inevitable. Topping up these stadiums make them more and more congested and less appealing. How often do non WA supporters come to Subiaco and leave disappointed with the lack of transport, seating and technology particularly during the finals series? Both stadiums are nothing more then boutique stadiums, and unfortunately not what WA needs in the future.
Thanks, just perspective in that picky then
Just out of curiousity, is the stadium likely to be orientated East-West like Subiaco is? The sunset normally sets behind the Subi-end goals (Western) so would be interesting how it would affect the new stadium.My monthly update...
Again starting at the north-east corner at the future train station.
Train station - east
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Train station - west
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Walking clockwise
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It's running roughly east west again like Subi, although I guess they would have thought about the sun issues and tried to minimise in the design. Probably the main reason why they would have done this is so football and cricket can share the same set of media facilities so they don't have to have 2 lots like AO.
My post above with field orientations shows the directions aswell as the dimensions. It was, as kram81 says above, to save money on media facilities.
hitthepost
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Also means, in many people's opinion, the best seats for footy (wing) are also the best seats for cricket (straight). This was one reason for the re-orientation of the pitch at ANZ, as it put the majority of the seats (in the east and west "stands") in line with the pitch. Even though it created a ridiculously-short straight boundary instead of just a relatively-short square boundary when the pitch ran N-S like normal.
Personally I prefer cricket from square-on, even though you've got no idea if the batsman got hit in line or not!
I prefer footy from 50m arc/boundary on top deck.
I prefer cricket on tv with richie, bill, tony and chappelli commentating not these current clowns.
I prefer cricket on tv with richie, bill, tony and chappelli commentating not these current clowns.
You mad.
I've never understood why Adelaide Oval has their members area on the side of the pitch, worst place to watch cricket from.
hitthepost
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We get to hog the shade
With a massive hill (I don't mean the North Mound - the actual hill leading up to North Adelaide) in the north, the next-best place to sit out of the sun is in the west. At the southern end you get the sun coming into the stand (hence the massive roof protruding so far out on the Riverbank stand). This was an issue in the old Bradman stand, you're under a roof but the sun got a long way back in the stand due to the angle. Easy roasting.
You don't get sight-screens blocking the view, non-strikers standing just in the wrong spot...good to see run-outs, the pace of the bowling, AND on a narrow ground like AO you're way closer to the action than if you sit straight-on.
You don't have to be directly behind the bowlers arm but at least on a 45 degree angle or something. For mine directly on the side sucks because you can hardly tell what's going on live.
hitthepost
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I think the original stand being built in the west was a lot out of necessity - the ground was flatter, as I mentioned. Also it was the finish straight for the cycle track. It's just stayed that way. We Adelaidians know nothing different and are used to it. And it's pretty easy to tell what's going on, with the exceptions of turn/swing and the line of the delivery, but we get by, in the shade
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In addition to what hitthepost has said, level 3 of the Riverbank Stand is a SACA members stand during cricket season too - so the members get the choice of sitting side on or behind the bowlers arm.
I don't dispute your concerns about the cost of building the new stadium at Burswood (or perhaps more correctly, the opportunity cost associated with it), but are you seriously suggesting that if the WACA were to be made into a 60-70k seat stadium there wouldn't be even worse congestion/parking/transport issues? Have you ever tried to get out of East Perth after an event at the WACA?
