Perth Stadium (Optus Stadium)

[the40metreMan]

Haha you guys will be kidding yourself if you believe that you are guaranteed a seat every week without being a member for either Freo or West Coast. Wouldn't you rather have sell outs less yet everyone guaranteed a seat?

 

[Kram]

No way will Freo games sell out every week.

 

[seanoff]

Haha you guys will be kidding yourself if you believe that you are guaranteed a seat every week without being a member for either Freo or West Coast. Wouldn't you rather have sell outs less yet everyone guaranteed a seat?

WCE averaged between 30 - 36k in the last 5 years depending on how they were going. 2015. 35.6k. 2013. 30.8k. Freo between 26 and 33K again dependent on performance.

If you think either team is going to sell a 60K arena out regularly i have a bridge i can sell you.

50,000 full 11 game memberships is going to be a difficult target for WC and probably close to impossible for Freo. That is a huge number of fans. I'd expect the numbers to look more like the Victorian clubs where there is a fair chunk of limited game memberships. This may take a couple of years as the first couple of years the stadium will be a new toy.

 

[frenchconnection]

WCE averaged between 30 - 36k in the last 5 years depending on how they were going. 2015. 35.6k. 2013. 30.8k. Freo between 26 and 33K again dependent on performance.

If you think either team is going to sell a 60K arena out regularly i have a bridge i can sell you.

50,000 full 11 game memberships is going to be a difficult target for WC and probably close to impossible for Freo. That is a huge number of fans. I'd expect the numbers to look more like the Victorian clubs where there is a fair chunk of limited game memberships. This may take a couple of years as the first couple of years the stadium will be a new toy.

You may be surprised!! I've heard a few people make the comment that a whole generation of supporters are being locked out at present due to Subi/Domain being close to a sell out on many occasions due to limited seats being available. Particularly West Coast games - not sure what the situation is re the Freo games?

 

[chicken Caesar]

WCE averaged between 30 - 36k in the last 5 years depending on how they were going. 2015. 35.6k. 2013. 30.8k. Freo between 26 and 33K again dependent on performance.

If you think either team is going to sell a 60K arena out regularly i have a bridge i can sell you.

50,000 full 11 game memberships is going to be a difficult target for WC and probably close to impossible for Freo. That is a huge number of fans. I'd expect the numbers to look more like the Victorian clubs where there is a fair chunk of limited game memberships. This may take a couple of years as the first couple of years the stadium will be a new toy.

Look at port and Adelaide oval

 

[Kwality]

WCE averaged between 30 - 36k in the last 5 years depending on how they were going. 2015. 35.6k. 2013. 30.8k. Freo between 26 and 33K again dependent on performance.

If you think either team is going to sell a 60K arena out regularly i have a bridge i can sell you.

50,000 full 11 game memberships is going to be a difficult target for WC and probably close to impossible for Freo. That is a huge number of fans. I'd expect the numbers to look more like the Victorian clubs where there is a fair chunk of limited game memberships. This may take a couple of years as the first couple of years the stadium will be a new toy.

Eagles have a seating capacity of 39k (round numbers) at Subi, & there is 3k AFL required walk up & 500 (?) for the visiting club.
My understanding the Eagles sell out the 39k on a season seated basis.
IF the new stadium gives the Eagles 50k capacity as rumoured, they should have no trouble selling that out to the current membership.
60k does not appear to be on offer - will walk up numbers & tourists sell out the extra 10k regularly? With Sean on this ... initial surge yes, but in season 2 NO.

 

[W.C. Fry]

WCE averaged between 30 - 36k in the last 5 years depending on how they were going. 2015. 35.6k. 2013. 30.8k. Freo between 26 and 33K again dependent on performance.

If you think either team is going to sell a 60K arena out regularly i have a bridge i can sell you.

50,000 full 11 game memberships is going to be a difficult target for WC and probably close to impossible for Freo. That is a huge number of fans. I'd expect the numbers to look more like the Victorian clubs where there is a fair chunk of limited game memberships. This may take a couple of years as the first couple of years the stadium will be a new toy.

You can say that, but how many tickets were actually unsold, and how many were members no shows?
We were talking about this a few pages back. The seat re-sale program for members is a rip off.
Weather is always a factor, when it rains in Perth it rains. New stadium has 85% of seats undercover. Will help stop some of those no shows on wet days.
Pretty confident Eagles will continue to sell out the stadium each week.

 

[Ned_Flanders]

You can say that, but how many tickets were actually unsold, and how many were members no shows?
We were talking about this a few pages back. The seat re-sale program for members is a rip off.
Weather is always a factor, when it rains in Perth it rains. New stadium has 85% of seats undercover. Will help stop some of those no shows on wet days.
Pretty confident Eagles will continue to sell out the stadium each week.

Question for you on resale, would this option appeal to you:

1) you get ZERO coin back for a resale

2) the ticket is given to an "in the wings" member who has registered interest in going to the game, free of charge

One of the big issues raised at a rfc members forum was the bond they felt with fellow seat holders, and they hated the idea of dropping a hawthorn gumby (for eg) in amongst our most loyal fans.

Most said they would rather give the ticket away for free - if they knew it was going to a member - than get some coin back

 

[holybishop]

Sports fans will be able to catch a ferry, or jump off a private boat, at a new jetty to be constructed on the Burswood Peninsula.

• Jetties at Burswood and Guildford to open up river transport
• A third public transport ferry to be purchased
• Plans for more river commuting

Premier and Tourism Minister Colin Barnett said the public jetty would be north of the Swan River Pedestrian Bridge, alongside the Perth Stadium, and would be available to service private craft and charter services on both event and non-event days.

He said construction of the jetty, for which $5 million had already been allocated and approvals were being finalised, was expected to start by April.

“The new jetty is part of a range of measures to promote the use of river ferries and improve connections between key tourist nodes on the river such as Fremantle, Elizabeth Quay, South Perth, East Perth and the Swan Valley,” Mr Barnett said.

A re-elected Liberal Government would provide $3 million to purchase a third public transport ferry to provide the capability for a public ferry service to the Perth Stadium during special events.

“This will also provide the capacity to expand other services when patronage demand increases with special events at Elizabeth Quay.”

In addition, a Liberal Government would allocate $3 million to build a jetty and land facilities at Guildford.

This would open opportunities for commuter ferries to the eastern suburbs and also provide heritage tourism opportunities by giving passengers on ferries already servicing the Swan Valley route, the chance to disembark at Guildford.

The Premier said a Liberal Government would continue to investigate options of other river ferry services such as a hop-on hop-off ferry loop service linking places such as Elizabeth Quay, Waterbank, Claisebrook Cove, Belmont Park, South Perth and Burswood Peninsular as well as a service between Canning Bridge, Matilda Bay and Elizabeth Quay.

A Liberal Government would also work with private operators to provide a fast ferry service between Perth and Fremantle.

“New bespoke low-wash vessels can travel at speeds that will reduce travel times from an hour to less than 35 minutes with minimal impact on river banks,” Mr Barnett said.

“Discussions with private providers are already well advanced and we will ensure Perth commuters have ferries as a viable and time-effective travel option.”

 

[wadistance]

Haha you guys will be kidding yourself if you believe that you are guaranteed a seat every week without being a member for either Freo or West Coast. Wouldn't you rather have sell outs less yet everyone guaranteed a seat?

No, because then the motivation to actually pre-purchase a ticket is low, as I know i can walk up and get a seat. This means that if on the day I'm in two minds, or it's shit weather, or whatever, it's easy to say no. Competition for seats creates a better atmosphere as it leads to a greater chance of a sellout

 

[Tricove]

WCE averaged between 30 - 36k in the last 5 years depending on how they were going. 2015. 35.6k. 2013. 30.8k. Freo between 26 and 33K again dependent on performance.

If you think either team is going to sell a 60K arena out regularly i have a bridge i can sell you.

50,000 full 11 game memberships is going to be a difficult target for WC and probably close to impossible for Freo. That is a huge number of fans. I'd expect the numbers to look more like the Victorian clubs where there is a fair chunk of limited game memberships. This may take a couple of years as the first couple of years the stadium will be a new toy.

Eagles are absolute certainties to still have a waiting list at the new stadium. I've been on the wait list for 8 years and will be taking up my full allocation offered to me(4 tix) I believe the wait list is around 12k now and times that by 4 memberships allowed equals huge pent up demand. I know that many people keen to get season seats who aren't even on the wait list. West coast are a juggernaut over here and will easily fill 60k

 

[Rouel_14]

Eagles are absolute certainties to still have a waiting list at the new stadium. I've been on the wait list for 8 years and will be taking up my full allocation offered to me(4 tix) I believe the wait list is around 12k now and times that by 4 memberships allowed equals huge pent up demand. I know that many people keen to get season seats who aren't even on the wait list. West coast are a juggernaut over here and will easily fill 60k

Agreed, I think is over here on the east coast we really do under estimate the support behind the clubs in Perth and Adelaide specially eagles and crows.
Yes their cities may be smaller but they only have 2 teams for supporters to choose out of and these two had a chance to get well established before he others came along.

Eagles the biggest sporting club in Aus in my opinion,


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[the40metreMan]

No, because then the motivation to actually pre-purchase a ticket is low, as I know i can walk up and get a seat. This means that if on the day I'm in two minds, or it's shit weather, or whatever, it's easy to say no. Competition for seats creates a better atmosphere as it leads to a greater chance of a sellout

West coasts game day atmosphere is average at best mate. Apart from finals. If we aren't in front or kicking goals at a rapid pace you can hear a pin drop or the groans and murmurs of the 70 year olds who are not loud or passionate at all (they make up 90% of our crowd I swear). If there were a guaranteed 15-30 thousand guaranteed general public seats i'm sure the Atmosphere would be 10x what it is because it will give those a chance who are stuck at home screaming at their TV's to actually be there. Hence why we could have done with an 80k capacity stadium.

 

[Spirit Level]

West coasts game day atmosphere is average at best mate. Apart from finals. If we aren't in front or kicking goals at a rapid pace you can hear a pin drop or the groans and murmurs of the 70 year olds who are not loud or passionate at all (they make up 90% of our crowd I swear). If there were a guaranteed 15-30 thousand guaranteed general public seats i'm sure the Atmosphere would be 10x what it is because it will give those a chance who are stuck at home screaming at their TV's to actually be there. Hence why we could have done with an 80k capacity stadium.

Have noticed

Say what you want about Freo crowd numbers, they will almost always be louder than west coast crowds

 

[the40metreMan]

Have noticed

Say what you want about Freo crowd numbers, they will almost always be louder than west coast crowds

Yeah definitely, as much as I hate Freo I can only commend their supporters when it comes to creating an atmosphere and being loud and rowdy. 25,000 AT A Freo home game beats 40,000 at a West Coast one that's for sure.

 

[Kwality]

West coasts game day atmosphere is average at best mate. Apart from finals. If we aren't in front or kicking goals at a rapid pace you can hear a pin drop or the groans and murmurs of the 70 year olds who are not loud or passionate at all (they make up 90% of our crowd I swear). If there were a guaranteed 15-30 thousand guaranteed general public seats i'm sure the Atmosphere would be 10x what it is because it will give those a chance who are stuck at home screaming at their TV's to actually be there. Hence why we could have done with an 80k capacity stadium.

Would the Eagles members pay for the extra capacity in your world 40? Are you suggesting the GA area in the 60k Stadium will be sold out every game?
Is the GA area at Subi sold out for every game?

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Before Christmas we talked a bit about beer prices, in particular if the proposed tavern to be built near the stadium competes with the stadium on price. Here are some prices from the Super Bowl today.

Once a rent is worked out, stadium deal, how many venue members and GA's, the next shit fight will be food and beverage prices charged by the stadium operators, and who gets to keep all that revenue!!

 

[ScottFreo]

 

[exile]

looks great! can't wait to fly over for a game.

 

[Dan Baker]

looks great! can't wait to fly over for a game.

Closer to accommodation and once the new pedestrian bridge is built, you will probably be able to walk there from Perth hotels. You will also be nearby to other facilities such as golf courses, races, etc

A lot of restaurants at that end too.

 

[exile]

Closer to accommodation and once the new pedestrian bridge is built, you will probably be able to walk there from Perth hotels. You will also be nearby to other facilities such as golf courses, races, etc

A lot of restaurants at that end too.

good to know. i see there's the train station right next door. where abouts does that line take you?
i know next to nothing about what's in and around perth haha.

by the sounds of it it'll be very accessible by many different modes of transport, something metricon stadium lacks greatly.

 

[AstonSouffle]

good to know. i see there's the train station right next door. where abouts does that line take you?
i know next to nothing about what's in and around perth haha.

by the sounds of it it'll be very accessible by many different modes of transport, something metricon stadium lacks greatly.

It'll take you directly to the city and Armadale/Thornlie I believe. Although I think there were works done as recently as the last fortnight that rejigged the lines so that there's greater connectivity straight to the stadium station. Somewhat expecting a bit of overkill on transport tbh, since they have floated ideas of a nearby ferry terminal as well.

 

[Admiral Byng]

good to know. i see there's the train station right next door. where abouts does that line take you?
i know next to nothing about what's in and around perth haha.

by the sounds of it it'll be very accessible by many different modes of transport, something metricon stadium lacks greatly.

I read the transport plan when it was released a year or two ago. The plan then was direct services to Fremantle and Butler (going non-stop through the main City station and onto their respective lines) and a high frequency shuttle service between the stadium and City which would take about 4 minutes. Passengers to/from Mandurah, Midland and the new Forrestfield line will need to change trains at City station onto their respective lines, although the latter two have the option of getting off at East Perth and walking to the stadium over the Windan Bridge (which is a 15-20 minute hike and not suitable for the elderly or disabled).

Passengers to/from Armadale and Thornlie would be going in the opposite direction and will have a direct service to the stadium.

 

[holybishop]

 

[The_Wookie]

Time to put brakes on footy gravy train
Mark Duffield Chief Football Writer CommentWednesday, February 08, 2017 3:40AM

The next State government, Liberal or Labor, has to stop the football gravy train.

Football continues to turn its nose up at a move from Subiaco Oval to a new stadium with 50 per cent more seats, 50 per cent more corporate seats and three times as many toilets, despite a $100 million “compensation” offer.

We are not here because any government has treated football poorly. We are here because governments of both political persuasions at both State and Federal level have been too kind, for too long to a code that continues to reinforce its reputation as the spoilt brat of WA sport.

If insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result, then both political parties should be warned ahead of this election: football is never satisfied. Gift them a stadium in 1989, then two significant upgrades to that stadium, more than $40 million in State and Federal funds to make league-leading training facilities possible, then pole position at what will be the best stadium in Australia. The more you give, the more football feels entitled to take.

Football continues to tell us that it must be “no worse off” at the new stadium. Let me put “no worse off” in real terms.

The three-tiered stand at Subiaco Oval, which holds 7500 seats, will be 50 years old in two years. The 10,000 seat two-tiered stand alongside it will be 40 years old in three years. Replacing those alone would conservatively cost between $150 million and $200 million and would not even budge the stadium’s capacity from its underwhelming 42,500.

If there had been no new stadium built just how was football expecting to replace those grandstands? Unfortunately we know the answer. They expected taxpayers to pay for them and then hand them back “their” stadium.

Just how much money has the AFL committed to make sure the WAFC is “no worse off” when the shift to the new stadium comes?

We are still waiting for that press release.

The new government must make taxpayers their priority, not a wealthy sporting code that that has been given too much and shows precious little gratitude for it.

A $1.3 billion stadium, $40 million in AFL/community training facility grants, $29 million in grants to WAFL clubs Swan Districts, West Perth and Claremont.

Now $10 million a year for 10 years is not enough to convince football it will be no worse off?

Time to stop the gravy train.

Time to stop the madness.

https://thewest.com.au/news/wa/time-to-put-brakes-on-footy-gravy-train-ng-b88379161z