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If the Walsh's family is supportive of this decision, I dont think anyone can past judgement against it.
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Why would you think this. They're the least objective interested people that you could come across. I don't mind him ultimately being released. I just hope that if he goes off his meds and ends up in the same state that he was when he killed Phil, that it's the people who pushed for his release that are at the end of his knife and not some innocent person just going about their ordinary life. I hope it doesn't end up that way, but if it does, let's just hope it's someone involved in his release and not an uninterested party.
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From a public safety perspective, the opinion of the family probably shouldn't be considered. Most family members, particularly those with kids with mental health issues, will want their kids with them.
However if an independent doctor/s believe him to be of no threat then I'm all good. Doesn't sound like he would be a threat either.
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Yes of course, this goes part and parcel with him being potentially released.
Independent medically professionals, panels etc.
The point I was raising, is that the victims should have a say in the process.
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They should, and it must be a horrible thing for Mrs Walsh and her daughter.
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Mother and sister too, I can imagine.
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The victim has no say in the process.
society has a right to be heard, and it’s standards upheld over and above the wishes of the family.
the law reflects this
however, in this case hasn’t that family suffered enough? Do we need to take him away from Mother if not needed, hasn’t she suffered enough? His sister
not a fan of this horrible heinous crime, but pure retribution isn’t the answer either
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Yes well articulated. Thats exactly how I feel here.
Also very telling that it was not opposed by prosecution.
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As long as the names of those who released him are on the record.
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How generous of you.
Yes state sanctioned murder is fun and cool! Good thing our justice system is infallible!
Presumably, because there's an ongoing inherent risk. If this person drops off their meds and finds themselves in the same mind space that resulted in their last killing, wouldn't you also want to get an inkling as to where the system has failed.
But surely it’s a system that’s failed then not a person.
The name is irrelevant.
I get that its a marginal discussion. But unless there's ongoing control, there's no certainty that one night Cy might not find himself in the same headspace as he was when shit went sideways. Do you want him next door to you and your family when thst happens? It's not about vigilante, it's about bureaucratic responsibility.
The name is irrelevant. That someone, anyone, that's stabbed a person to death can be released a handful of years later makes no sense to me. If the release is predicated upon medication that the system can't keep on top of, do you want that person in a granny flat next to your property? Chatting with your family here and there?
Sure, according to the medicos, not a risk whilst taking prescribed meds whilst under control. But now that he lives next to your family, how do you know he's taking his meds?
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In case it goes balls-up.
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Here's an interesting read:
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Psychiatric disorders and violent reoffending: a national cohort study of convicted prisoners in Sweden
Reoffending and presence of psychiatric disorders are common in prisoners worldwide. However, whether psychiatric disorders are risk factors for reoffending is still unknown. We aimed to examine the association between psychiatric disorders, including ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
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Otherwise you end up with a situation like in australia where close to 1200 people have died all through govt negligence and maybe one person ( fmr vic CHO ) at best copped it in the neck for it.
This ceased being an Adelaide Football Club issue in 2015. Whatever happens via the criminal justice system is really none of the business of the average Crows supporter.
I’m not saying I agree, all I’m arguing that knowing the name is not the correct thing.
He is still living in Mental Health Custody, meaning he will be required to take all medication and assessed before leaving the facility each day.
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