Pies/GWS pick trade

[EBERT THE KING]

Is this going to be the worst trade of all time?

I think the pies finish last.

Hawks to beat Collingwood and North to beat Adelaide.

Could have had Jason Horne and Nick Daicos.

 

[Sphynx]

Is this going to be the worst trade of all time?

I think the pies finish last.

Hawks to beat Collingwood and North to beat Adelaide.

Could have had Jason Horne and Nick Daicos.

Yes and it will take some beating moving forward.

Other clubs might trade out the #1 pick in future, but I highly doubt it will be for a few picks in the 20's.

It's extremely strange for a club to misread their following years finishing position by what looks to be about a dozen positions on the ladder.

 

[10571z]

If I see Ned Guy I may punch him.
Either way we will get one of the best kids in the draft

 

[Dinsdale]

Yes its almost Fremantle level of trading madness...although they didn't know trading #1 for Croad instead of picking Hodge and then trading Croad back again a couple of years later would actually happen at the time.

 

[Sweet Jesus]

If the Pies drop to 18th it will sting the nostrils.

 

[Sweet Jesus]

Either way we will get one of the best kids in the draft

Sure but the issue is you could have got two.

 

[Sphynx]

Sure but the issue is you could have got two.

It's a point lost on most Pies supporters.

They could have also had another top pick in 2022 even if they don't have the #1 pick.

There's no upside in trading your first pick a year out from an NGA or F/S prospect. None.

So many moving parts that can't be anticipated - said player might get injured, form turn to shit, your ladder position might plummet (See Collingwood) meaning you can double up, a generational prospect might unearth themselves, might have long term injuries to different positions or other players leaving etc.


They should have waited until this year to trade it. Given their likely finishing position, they could have leveraged the top pick in almost any scenario for the double up.

Or alternatively got a Kings Ransom in 2022 picks.

 

[Malifice]

If I see Ned Guy I may punch him.
Either way we will get one of the best kids in the draft

You would have had 2 of the best kids in the draft.

As shitty as our midfield is, you guys also need to build one, largely from scratch. You also need a KPF or two.

Surely you guys look to trade Grundy to Port and speed this rebuild up?

 

[10571z]

You would have had 2 of the best kids in the draft.

As shitty as our midfield is, you guys also need to build one, largely from scratch. You also need a KPF or two.

Surely you guys look to trade Grundy to Port and speed this rebuild up?

Who would take on grundys contract? No one. Paying a million for a ruckman is moronic. Just see Hickey they got for zero

 

[RUNVS]

Truth be told I am not even sure what Collingwood got out of this deal. Even in bad deals you sort of see where the other club is coming from, where they at the time thought they would benefit from the trade. I don't get that with this one, I don't see what Collingwood thought they would get out of this trade.

 

[Mofra]

Let's not forget that current ladder positions mean that Adam Treloar

1

Adam Treloar

Age

31

Ht

185cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

28.2

5star

K

12.9

5star

HB

15.3

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

4.9

5star

CL

4.6

5star

D

30.3

5star

K

16.3

5star

HB

14.0

5star

M

2.0

2star

T

3.3

4star

CL

5.8

5star

D

18.0

5star

K

11.2

4star

HB

6.8

5star

M

4.2

4star

T

2.6

4star

CL

1.6

4star

was traded with a pick surplus to the Bulldogs, plus $300k pa x 5 years. Incredible.

 

[g_TRAIN]

If I see Ned Guy I may punch him.
Either way we will get one of the best kids in the draft

Yes, but you will go into points deficit to do so.

Meaning it compromises your draft in 2022 as well.

Imagine you finish last in 2022 and can only get pick 10.

This is the worst list management of all time unfortunately for you guys.

 

[markm106]

So it was traded for picks 24 and 30. I guess they needed picks last year and they get access to one of the best this year but they certainly could have done better.

 

[Baird]

No, because Collingwood are finishing 15th at worst.

 

[Orange crush]

It's a point lost on most Pies supporters.

They could have also had another top pick in 2022 even if they don't have the #1 pick.

There's no upside in trading your first pick a year out from an NGA or F/S prospect. None.

So many moving parts that can't be anticipated - said player might get injured, form turn to sh*t, your ladder position might plummet (See Collingwood) meaning you can double up, a generational prospect might unearth themselves, might have long term injuries to different positions or other players leaving etc.


They should have waited until this year to trade it. Given their likely finishing position, they could have leveraged the top pick in almost any scenario for the double up.

Or alternatively got a Kings Ransom in 2022 picks.

This .... With bells on

 

[Orange crush]

So it was traded for picks 24 and 30. I guess they needed picks last year and they get access to one of the best this year but they certainly could have done better.

Nah ... they honestly misread where they are at and thought it would be a late 1st rounder that would be eaten up by daicos

 

[EBERT THE KING]

No, because Collingwood are finishing 15th at worst.

How?? Lol.

Wont win again.

Comfortably the worst side in it with their best player also now out for the last month.

 

[ExYarraValley]

Given there key forward stocks are garbage this is by far the worst trade in history.

 

[g_TRAIN]

Yes, It sets a new benchmark for piss poor list management I think we can probably all agree on that.

This could be a moment in the club's history that sets them back 20 years... Like Carlton and the salary cap in the late 90s.

I don't think it's all Ned Guy's fault either, he was the puppet, not the one pulling the strings.

 

[HairyO]

If I see Ned Guy I may punch him.
Either way we will get one of the best kids in the draft

Need to rebuild. Will have a new coach.

Could have had the 2 best kids in the draft but will only get 1.

That could have been a huge boost.

 

[Orange crush]

It’s why we threw the games to north and hawks .... worth the pick

 

[Powerade 08]

It will likely end up at pick 2, which could have easily been traded with a sweetener for pick 1 (The team with pick 1 can't draft Daicos, so its an easy trade).

So yes, worst deal of all time even if they don't finish bottom.

 

[Ricky Vaughn]

It’s why we threw the games to north and hawks .... worth the pick

GWS are the gold standard at manipulating the draft.

 

[Sphynx]

It will likely end up at pick 2, which could have easily been traded with a sweetener for pick 1 (The team with pick 1 can't draft Daicos, so its an easy trade).

So yes, worst deal of all time even if they don't finish bottom.

It really comes down to their game vs Hawthorn.

Without Pendles, every chance they lose it and get the spoon.

I'm pretty confident we will roll Adelaide and possibly Richmond on the run home.

 

[danster168]

can someone refresh me what the trade was?