Pies handed a 'dream' draw

[MagpieBat]

Still remember 10 of our 26 games in 2010 being against the other top three teams from both the preceding year (2009) who then backed up by finishing top four in 2010.

And still we were told we had a dream draw by everyone else.

They see us MCG'n. So they go hatin'...

 

[Obese Arachnid]

Still remember 10 of our 26 games in 2010 being against the other top three teams from both the preceding year (2009) who then backed up by finishing top four in 2010.

And still we were told we had a dream draw by everyone else.

Seriously, it's an annual thing.

As sure as Caro talks about off field shit, as sure as Hughesy is unfunny, as sure as Sam Newman is a relic, as sure as the tides ebb & flow, as sure as Eddie says Side by side, as sure as Eddie wasn't on that bus, as sure as the sun comes up, as sure as my digestive system has a problem with corn, as sure as some idiot bites about daylight saving ruining his drapes, as soon as OA talks bollocks, as soon as ..............

 

[Tarkyn_24]

They see us MCG'n. So they go hatin'...

That was literally it. Wasn’t it eleven games at the MCG to finish the season that has everyone up in arms?

Unfortunately people forgot we earned the right to host the last four games, and played either co-tenants or Victorian sides that had opted to play us there with the exception of the Crows iirc.

 

[Mukesh]

So it's a 'no excuses boys' draw...

 

[MyManLynch]

Pies handed a dream draw.

Is that Whitebait or Bluebait?

 

[The Dawes]

Can't be a dream draw unless we decide to start beating Carlton & Essendon again

 

[Vicky Park]

Even with a dream draw, we will still **** it up under Buckley and end up 14th.

I've got no confidence in his coaching ability.

Please take it to the Bucks thread.

 

[jmac70]

Seriously, it's an annual thing.

As sure as Caro talks about off field shit, as sure as Hughesy is unfunny, as sure as Sam Newman is a relic, as sure as the tides ebb & flow, as sure as Eddie says Side by side, as sure as Eddie wasn't on that bus, as sure as the sun comes up, as sure as my digestive system has a problem with corn, as sure as some idiot bites about daylight saving ruining his drapes, as soon as OA talks bollocks, as soon as ..............

I might use your post in my class today. The danger of too many commas!

 

[DaVe86]

From what I'm hearing it does sound like a pretty cushy draw...but it really all depends when we meet certain teams etc.

Like this year we played Carlton on the back of 3 games in 12 days. We were clearly flat. With ANZAC Day on a Wednesday this year, it could mean we yet again will come off a really short break.

At the end of the day, the draw has a huge bearing on where a side finishes on the ladder. There is no doubt that the Tigers had a dream draw this year. With a harder draw, they probably just slip out of the top 4 and lose the double chance.

 

[Gone Critical]

I've always been a bit of a sceptic about how much of an advantage a "dream draw" is in terms of wins and losses. For a start what may seem easy now may turn difficult in 2018 e.g. Drawing Richmond x2 this time last year.

The bottom line for me is though really the difference will be at most a better chance of one more win. For instance change our dream draw for 2018 to an average draw by giving us 2 matches against top six teams and 2 v bottom six as opposed to 1 and 3. We would achieve that by say playing Sydney twice and Carlton once. Let's say we are an 20:80 chance of beating the Swans and a 60:40 chance of beating Carlton. It's that match that changes us from a dream draw to an average draw and all it does really is give us a better chance of winning one match. Not even a guarantee of one match so I don't really see a huge difference

I understand there are other nuances that go into making draws harder and easier, interstate trips, 6 day breaks etc but the big variable is who you play twice and I don't think it makes anywhere as big a difference as many believe.

 

[rdangelo]

Stumbled across this the other day

 

[DaVe86]

I've always been a bit of a sceptic about how much of an advantage a "dream draw" is in terms of wins and losses. For a start what may seem easy now may turn difficult in 2018 e.g. Drawing Richmond x2 this time last year.

The bottom line for me is though really the difference will be at most a better chance of one more win. For instance change our dream draw for 2018 to an average draw by giving us 2 matches against top six teams and 2 v bottom six as opposed to 1 and 3. We would achieve that by say playing Sydney twice and Carlton once. Let's say we are an 20:80 chance of beating the Swans and a 60:40 chance of beating Carlton. It's that match that changes us from a dream draw to an average draw and all it does really is give us a better chance of winning one match. Not even a guarantee of one match so I don't really see a huge difference

I understand there are other nuances that go into making draws harder and easier, interstate trips, 6 day breaks etc but the big variable is who you play twice and I don't think it makes anywhere as big a difference as many believe.

I think a good team will win a premiership regardless of the draw. But I think a good draw can be the difference between coming top 4 or top 8...or slipping just outside the 8.

No doubt Richmond snuck into the 8 this year because of how good their draw was. I reckon they would've won the flag regardless because they had so much momentum....but you never know. An extra game may have meant another injury, suspension, fatigue etc.

 

[manicmagpie]

Still remember 10 of our 26 games in 2010 being against the other top three teams from both the preceding year (2009) who then backed up by finishing top four in 2010.

And still we were told we had a dream draw by everyone else.

Our 2012 draw was (based on strength of double up opponents) literally the hardest any team has ever received, want to guess how it was described by the footy media?




All those who answered 'Dream draw' are allowed to print this page, put a gold star on it and have their parents display it on the fridge.

 

[Stoods]

http://www.collingwoodfc.com.au/news/2017-10-31/2018-fixture-released


Round One
Hawthorn v Collingwood
Saturday 24 March
MCG, 7.25pm

Round Two
Collingwood v Greater Western Sydney
Saturday 31 March
MCG, 4.35pm

Round Three
Carlton v Collingwood
Friday 6 April
MCG, 7.50pm

Round Four
Adelaide v Collingwood
Friday 13 April
Adelaide Oval, 7.20pm

Round Five
Collingwood v Essendon
Wednesday 25 April
MCG, 3.20pm

Round Six
Collingwood v Richmond
Sunday 29 April
MCG, 3.20pm

Round Seven
Brisbane v Collingwood
Sunday 6 May
Gabba, 4.40pm

Round Eight
Collingwood v Geelong
Sunday 13 May
MCG, 3.20pm

Round Nine
St Kilda v Collingwood
Saturday 19 May
Etihad Stadium, 7.25pm

Round 10
Collingwood v Western Bulldogs
Friday 25 May
Etihad Stadium, 7.50pm

Round 11
Collingwood v Fremantle
Sunday 3 June
MCG, 3.20pm

Round 12
Melbourne v Collingwood
Monday 11 June
MCG, 3.20pm

Round 13
BYE

Round 14
Collingwood v Carlton
Sunday 24 June
MCG, 3.20pm

Round 15
Gold Coast v Collingwood
Saturday 30 June
Metricon Stadium, 7.25pm

Round 16
Essendon v Collingwood
Sunday 8 July
MCG, 3.20pm

Round 17
Collingwood v West Coast
Sunday 15 July
MCG, 1.10pm

Round 18
Collingwood v North Melbourne
Saturday 21 July
MCG, 1.45pm

Round 19
Richmond v Collingwood
Saturday 28 July
MCG, 1.45pm

Round 20
Sydney v Collingwood
Saturday 4 August
SCG, 7.25pm

Round 21
Collingwood v Brisbane
Saturday 11 August
Etihad Stadium, 7.25pm

Round 22
Collingwood v Port Adelaide
Saturday 18 August
MCG, 1.45pm

Round 23
Fremantle v Collingwood
Perth Stadium
(Date and time to be confirmed by the AFL in the weeks leading up to the match)

 

[jefffff34]

The one ****ing night I didn't want a Friday night game and it hits it. **** you AFL.

 

[Stoods]

first 6 games are very important, if we can come out of that block of 6 at least 3-3 then that's ok i think.

 

[CFC2010]

http://www.collingwoodfc.com.au/news/2017-10-31/2018-fixture-released


Round One
Hawthorn v Collingwood
Saturday 24 March
MCG, 7.25pm

Round Two
Collingwood v Greater Western Sydney
Saturday 31 March
MCG, 4.35pm

Round Three
Carlton v Collingwood
Friday 6 April
MCG, 7.50pm

Round Four
Adelaide v Collingwood
Friday 13 April
Adelaide Oval, 7.20pm

Round Five
Collingwood v Essendon
Wednesday 25 April
MCG, 3.20pm

Round Six
Collingwood v Richmond
Sunday 29 April
MCG, 3.20pm

Round Seven
Brisbane v Collingwood
Sunday 6 May
Gabba, 4.40pm

Round Eight
Collingwood v Geelong
Sunday 13 May
MCG, 3.20pm

Round Nine
St Kilda v Collingwood
Saturday 19 May
Etihad Stadium, 7.25pm

Round 10
Collingwood v Western Bulldogs
Friday 25 May
Etihad Stadium, 7.50pm

Round 11
Collingwood v Fremantle
Sunday 3 June
MCG, 3.20pm

Round 12
Melbourne v Collingwood
Monday 11 June
MCG, 3.20pm

Round 13
BYE

Round 14
Collingwood v Carlton
Sunday 24 June
MCG, 3.20pm

Round 15
Gold Coast v Collingwood
Saturday 30 June
Metricon Stadium, 7.25pm

Round 16
Essendon v Collingwood
Sunday 8 July
MCG, 3.20pm

Round 17
Collingwood v West Coast
Sunday 15 July
MCG, 1.10pm

Round 18
Collingwood v North Melbourne
Saturday 21 July
MCG, 1.45pm

Round 19
Richmond v Collingwood
Saturday 28 July
MCG, 1.45pm

Round 20
Sydney v Collingwood
Saturday 4 August
SCG, 7.25pm

Round 21
Collingwood v Brisbane
Saturday 11 August
Etihad Stadium, 7.25pm

Round 22
Collingwood v Port Adelaide
Saturday 18 August
MCG, 1.45pm

Round 23
Fremantle v Collingwood
Perth Stadium
(Date and time to be confirmed by the AFL in the weeks leading up to the match)

After seeing our draw I thought of this


Mick Malthouse is confident Carlton will be successful in 2015, saying hard to see team lose
Sam Edmund, Herald Sun
March 20, 2015 1:19pm


MICK Malthouse has claimed he is struggling to find a game Carlton loses this year, with the Blues coach urging his men to play without inhibition.

In an overwhelmingly positive address at today’s season launch, Malthouse demanded his young group show their “X-factor” and take on all-comers.

“I shouldn’t say this in front of the cameras, but it’s very, very difficult to see where we’re going to lose a game,” Malthouse said to much applause

 

[mattys123]

The first 6 games are key there.

Can't come out of them with anything less then 3 wins. We simply aren't good enough to chase down a final spot from 2-3 games down, even early in the year.

Start 3-3 or better and we can play finals. Anything worse and we'll have to go on a winning streak mid season to have any chance.

Tough(ish) finish to the season too. Swans, Tigers, Port and Dockers in Perth. We will need to be in the top 8 with 6 games left to have any chance.

Reckon our range is 9 to 13 wins, once again.

 

[Old Spice]

Definitely a golden draw. I realise teams dip and rise but on my estimation of clubs who will be a danger in 2018, we got a great draw. I don't see Richmond as much chop, and getting GWS in Melbourne is good.

 

[Nice n Crispy]

Carlton with the four Friday night games

 

[Chrispiesssss]

Collingwood home game vs Dogs at Ethiad. Always annoys the eff out of me.

 

[jjsmitty8]

Even with a dream draw, we will still **** it up under Buckley and end up 14th.

I've got no confidence in his coaching ability.

That's the spirit

 

[DaVe86]

I can't see how that is a dream draw.

Hawthorn, GWS and Adelaide in the opening 4 rounds....then only a 4 day break between ANZAC Day to play the reigning premiers in Richmond.

That's a terror start to the year. Carlton should be the only clear winnable one for us.

It makes the Hawthorn clash terribly vital. We need to win that.

 

[crows dude]

Wow. Collingwood to PErth in Round 23. I thought that was always us or Port. Thats different

 

[AssassinAndy]

The first 6 games are key there.

First 6 games are massive. We could easily be 1-5 and season over. Need to be 3-3 or better.