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Oh its at Heinz Field, so not a west coast game at least. But a loss to the Raiders has signified missing the playoffs, so cant afford to drop it anyway
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Yes we have a home game. Worried about this week v Raiders. They do seem to have our measure, even when they are a lot worse than us in the past. I remember we lost to Oakland a few years back when short favourites.
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Mike Tomlin: Working for Jon Gruden as a young coach helped me in a big way
Posted by Myles Simmons on September 16, 2021, 11:49 AM EDT
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It’s been a long time, but when Steelers head coach Mike Tomlin was just beginning his NFL coaching career, he worked for his next opponent.
Tony Dungy hired Tomlin to coach Tampa Bay’s defensive backs in 2001. But Jon Gruden kept Tomlin in his position when he took over as head coach in 2002, as the Buccaneers won Super Bowl XXXVII. Tomlin was in that position until 2006 when he became the Vikings’ defensive coordinator. A year later, he succeeded Bill Cowher as the Steelers’ head coach.
But this week, Tomlin said he learned plenty from Gruden in their four seasons together.
“Gru has no fear,” Tomlin said, via Ray Fittipaldo of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette. “He doesn’t. He looks at a problem and sees it as an opportunity. You can’t fake that. It’s every day for him. I probably already had that mentality, but he helped me hone it as a vocation, as a coach. His can-do approach, the positive energy he consistently brings to whatever challenge the job presents helped me and helped me in a big way as a coach when I worked for him as a young guy.”
The last time the Steelers faced the Raiders was in 2018. Gruden got the better of that matchup, with the Raiders defeating Pittsburgh in Oakland 24-21.
Posted by Myles Simmons on September 16, 2021, 11:49 AM EDT
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It’s been a long time, but when Steelers head coach Mike Tomlin was just beginning his NFL coaching career, he worked for his next opponent.
Tony Dungy hired Tomlin to coach Tampa Bay’s defensive backs in 2001. But Jon Gruden kept Tomlin in his position when he took over as head coach in 2002, as the Buccaneers won Super Bowl XXXVII. Tomlin was in that position until 2006 when he became the Vikings’ defensive coordinator. A year later, he succeeded Bill Cowher as the Steelers’ head coach.
But this week, Tomlin said he learned plenty from Gruden in their four seasons together.
“Gru has no fear,” Tomlin said, via Ray Fittipaldo of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette. “He doesn’t. He looks at a problem and sees it as an opportunity. You can’t fake that. It’s every day for him. I probably already had that mentality, but he helped me hone it as a vocation, as a coach. His can-do approach, the positive energy he consistently brings to whatever challenge the job presents helped me and helped me in a big way as a coach when I worked for him as a young guy.”
The last time the Steelers faced the Raiders was in 2018. Gruden got the better of that matchup, with the Raiders defeating Pittsburgh in Oakland 24-21.
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Tbh, Ben looks cooked to me. If it were me, Id start Rudolph if he looks slightly better than him in practice. Could well be the end, just a matter of time, how long before Tomlin has the inspiration to make a change.
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Ben Roethlisberger: I'm frustrated I'm not playing well enough
Ben Roethlisberger didn't play well enough for the Steelers to win Sunday.
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He did cop a lot of hits today, but it does seem like he's trying to carry us too much.
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He also just doesnt seem to have it, anymore as a passer. He looks like an old vet backup who comes in wheb the starter is injured. He might still have the mind for reading defenses and understanding playbooks and recognizing coverages and blitzes, but as a passer per se, as a mover, even maybe the quickness to read, all seem diminished to that point where he could look like a vet backup signed for insurance only
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Ben Roethlisberger expressed displeasure with offensive coordinator Matt Canada after Pittsburgh's Week 2 loss to the Raiders.
When asked about formations used in the Steelers' loss, Roethlisberger said, “You’ll have to ask Coach Canada that. That’s what he’s calling, what we’re going with. We got some really good football players that you want to get on the football field. So, if you don’t have them out there, they’re sitting on the bench doing nothing.” Reporters asked Roethlisberger about no-huddle usage this season. “We don’t really have a no-huddle,” he said. Roethlisberger thrived in the no-huddle offense during his most productive seasons, raising questions about Canada's handling of his veteran quarterback. The Steelers' offense looks as stale and predictable as ever, even as Canada was supposed to bring Pittsburgh's offense into the 21st century. Frustration will continue to mount unless the team's offensive line can improve and Roethlisberger can deliver more accurate, on-time throws to his excellent wideouts.
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When asked about formations used in the Steelers' loss, Roethlisberger said, “You’ll have to ask Coach Canada that. That’s what he’s calling, what we’re going with. We got some really good football players that you want to get on the football field. So, if you don’t have them out there, they’re sitting on the bench doing nothing.” Reporters asked Roethlisberger about no-huddle usage this season. “We don’t really have a no-huddle,” he said. Roethlisberger thrived in the no-huddle offense during his most productive seasons, raising questions about Canada's handling of his veteran quarterback. The Steelers' offense looks as stale and predictable as ever, even as Canada was supposed to bring Pittsburgh's offense into the 21st century. Frustration will continue to mount unless the team's offensive line can improve and Roethlisberger can deliver more accurate, on-time throws to his excellent wideouts.
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ole blame shifting Ben back at it again, shocked to be sitting here
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Steelers placed DT Tyson Alualu (ankle) on injured reserve.
No timeline has been placed on Alualu's return but he posted a picture of himself in a hospital, wearing a cast shortly after the injury so it doesn't seem like he'll be back anytime soon. Pro Football Focus has consistently been graded as one of the league's better interior linemen and he was already off to a hot start, earning five combined tackles and a QB hit in Week 1. A slew of injuries at the start of the year could derail Pittsburgh's plan of winning low-scoring games with Alualu becoming the latest Steelers defender to miss time.
No timeline has been placed on Alualu's return but he posted a picture of himself in a hospital, wearing a cast shortly after the injury so it doesn't seem like he'll be back anytime soon. Pro Football Focus has consistently been graded as one of the league's better interior linemen and he was already off to a hot start, earning five combined tackles and a QB hit in Week 1. A slew of injuries at the start of the year could derail Pittsburgh's plan of winning low-scoring games with Alualu becoming the latest Steelers defender to miss time.
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NFL Network's Ian Rapoport reports Steelers LB T.J. Watt "has a chance to play" in Week 3 against the Bengals.
Watt left the Steelers' Week 2 loss to the Raiders with the groin injury and was unable to return. Rapoport noted that even if he doesn't suit up for Week 3, the fact that an immediate return is in play bodes well for him. The Steelers left Week 2 without Devin Bush, Joe Haden, and Watt. For a team built on holding opposing offenses in check, that's a worst-case scenario outcome to start the year. Getting Watt back should help them turn things around against the Bengals. Watt is one of the league's best pass-rushers and he'll face a weak Cincinnati line if healthy.
Watt left the Steelers' Week 2 loss to the Raiders with the groin injury and was unable to return. Rapoport noted that even if he doesn't suit up for Week 3, the fact that an immediate return is in play bodes well for him. The Steelers left Week 2 without Devin Bush, Joe Haden, and Watt. For a team built on holding opposing offenses in check, that's a worst-case scenario outcome to start the year. Getting Watt back should help them turn things around against the Bengals. Watt is one of the league's best pass-rushers and he'll face a weak Cincinnati line if healthy.
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NFL Network's Mike Garofolo reports Diontae Johnson (knee) avoided a major injury in Week 2 against the Raiders.
Johnson, who led the Steelers with a dozen targets against Vegas, was injured on the game's final (meaningless) play. He writhed in pain before trainers and teammates helped him leave the field. As long as Johnson is able to practice on a limited basis this week, he should be ready to go for Week 3 against the Bengals. He has 14 receptions, 141 yards, and a touchdown through two games.
Johnson, who led the Steelers with a dozen targets against Vegas, was injured on the game's final (meaningless) play. He writhed in pain before trainers and teammates helped him leave the field. As long as Johnson is able to practice on a limited basis this week, he should be ready to go for Week 3 against the Bengals. He has 14 receptions, 141 yards, and a touchdown through two games.
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Mike Tomlin: No changes to OL, development doesn’t happen overnight
Posted by Josh Alper on September 21, 2021, 1:44 PM EDT
The Steelers came into the season with four new starters on their offensive line and the unit’s early work has not been particularly strong, but the team isn’t going to be shifting gears.
Head coach Mike Tomlin told reporters at his Tuesday press conference that he is not considering any personnel changes to the line after Sunday’s loss to the Raiders.
Tomlin acknowledged the need for the group to put forth a better effort, but that improvement will have to come from the players already in the lineup. “We’ve just got to keep working,” Tomlin said, via 93.7 The Fan. “Development is that. It’s development. It doesn’t happen in an instant. It doesn’t happen overnight.
At the same time there is urgency. We have ballgames to win in the midst of all this. We will continue to work that balance of doing what we have to do in an effort to pursue victory. While at the same time growing individually and collectively in areas where we are extremely young or inexperienced from a cohesion standpoint.”
Tomlin said quarterback Ben Roethlisberger took too many hits and he’s not at 100 percent heading into their Week Three game against the Bengals. Whether he plays or not, the line will have to be better for the Steelers to show the kind of offensive growth they were looking for this season.
Posted by Josh Alper on September 21, 2021, 1:44 PM EDT
The Steelers came into the season with four new starters on their offensive line and the unit’s early work has not been particularly strong, but the team isn’t going to be shifting gears.
Head coach Mike Tomlin told reporters at his Tuesday press conference that he is not considering any personnel changes to the line after Sunday’s loss to the Raiders.
Tomlin acknowledged the need for the group to put forth a better effort, but that improvement will have to come from the players already in the lineup. “We’ve just got to keep working,” Tomlin said, via 93.7 The Fan. “Development is that. It’s development. It doesn’t happen in an instant. It doesn’t happen overnight.
At the same time there is urgency. We have ballgames to win in the midst of all this. We will continue to work that balance of doing what we have to do in an effort to pursue victory. While at the same time growing individually and collectively in areas where we are extremely young or inexperienced from a cohesion standpoint.”
Tomlin said quarterback Ben Roethlisberger took too many hits and he’s not at 100 percent heading into their Week Three game against the Bengals. Whether he plays or not, the line will have to be better for the Steelers to show the kind of offensive growth they were looking for this season.
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Steelers sign Taco Charlton to their practice squad
It's officially Taco Tuesday in Pittsburgh.
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Did Ben Roethlisberger, Steelers make a mistake?
Posted by Mike Florio on September 29, 2021, 10:52 AM EDT
It’s one thing to opine in March that the Steelers and Ben Roethlisberger will both regret giving it one more go. It’s another thing for the facts to begin to bear that out in September.
Ed Bouchette of TheAthletic.com pieces together some facts from the first three games of 2021. Those facts suggest that Roethlisberger and the Steelers probably should have parted ways.
Bouchette raises the question of whether Ben Roethlisberger will become the new Y.A. Tittle. Pointing to the iconic photo of a broken and bloodied 38-year-old quarterback, Bouchette explains that it was taken in Pittsburgh after the Giants lost to the Steelers in September 1964, falling to 0-2. Tittle, who had taken the Giants to the NFL title game a year earlier, clearly should have called it quits then, and not after a 2-10-2 season during which he was benched for a rookie named Gary Wood.
Although it’s still early, the signs are nearly as troubling for Roethlisberger now as they were for Tittle in early ’64. Bouchette writes that Roethlisberger has taken 17 hits in the last two games. He’s absorbed eight sacks in three weeks, after having only 13 in all of the 2020 season.
“It’s gotten so bad that it appears Roethlisberger is looking for the rush as soon as the ball is snapped, something he has rarely done,” Bouchette explains.
Bouchette also points out — accurately — that the dramatically rebuilt offensive line is the problem, that no quarterback could thrive with limited time to set up and throw.
Barring dramatic improvement (which may require relying on the defense and making Big Ben a game manager), Roethlisberger may not make it to Week 18. It’s becoming easier and easier to envision not a benching but the placement of Roethlisberger on injured reserve, a designation from which he’d never return. Even if he’s technically healthy enough to play, there’s a point at which he shouldn’t want to continue to put himself at physical risk. The moment it appears likely that the Steelers have no practical shot at the playoffs, that’s when both sides need to move on, for the good of the player and the good of the team.
Posted by Mike Florio on September 29, 2021, 10:52 AM EDT
It’s one thing to opine in March that the Steelers and Ben Roethlisberger will both regret giving it one more go. It’s another thing for the facts to begin to bear that out in September.
Ed Bouchette of TheAthletic.com pieces together some facts from the first three games of 2021. Those facts suggest that Roethlisberger and the Steelers probably should have parted ways.
Bouchette raises the question of whether Ben Roethlisberger will become the new Y.A. Tittle. Pointing to the iconic photo of a broken and bloodied 38-year-old quarterback, Bouchette explains that it was taken in Pittsburgh after the Giants lost to the Steelers in September 1964, falling to 0-2. Tittle, who had taken the Giants to the NFL title game a year earlier, clearly should have called it quits then, and not after a 2-10-2 season during which he was benched for a rookie named Gary Wood.
Although it’s still early, the signs are nearly as troubling for Roethlisberger now as they were for Tittle in early ’64. Bouchette writes that Roethlisberger has taken 17 hits in the last two games. He’s absorbed eight sacks in three weeks, after having only 13 in all of the 2020 season.
“It’s gotten so bad that it appears Roethlisberger is looking for the rush as soon as the ball is snapped, something he has rarely done,” Bouchette explains.
Bouchette also points out — accurately — that the dramatically rebuilt offensive line is the problem, that no quarterback could thrive with limited time to set up and throw.
Barring dramatic improvement (which may require relying on the defense and making Big Ben a game manager), Roethlisberger may not make it to Week 18. It’s becoming easier and easier to envision not a benching but the placement of Roethlisberger on injured reserve, a designation from which he’d never return. Even if he’s technically healthy enough to play, there’s a point at which he shouldn’t want to continue to put himself at physical risk. The moment it appears likely that the Steelers have no practical shot at the playoffs, that’s when both sides need to move on, for the good of the player and the good of the team.
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The last few plays we had has summed up our season so far - 3 drops in a row and a punt, haha.
Ben Roethlisberger said after absorbing a 24-10 loss to the Cincinnati Bengals that “everything hurts,” and that included the pectoral injury that limited the Pittsburgh Steelers’ 39-year-old quarterback in practice last week.
Roethlisberger missed the first practice of the week Wednesday, which is not uncommon, but this one came with the injury designation and not as a coach’s decision.
Roethlisberger was one of four players, including three starters, who did not practice as the Steelers began on-field preparations for their game Sunday against the Green Bay Packers at Lambeau Field. Wide receiver JuJu Smith-Schuster (ribs), right tackle Chuks Okorafor (concussion) and backup defensive lineman Carlos Davis (knee) also did not practice.
Limited participants were outside linebackers T.J. Watt and Alex Highsmith, who are dealing with groin injuries that kept them out of the loss to the Bengals. Diontae Johnson also was limited with a knee injury that caused him to miss the Bengals game. Backup guard Rashaad Coward was limited with an ankle injury.
The rest of the players were listed as full participants, including right tackle Zach Banner, who practiced on the first day he was eligible after spending three weeks on injured reserve.
Roethlisberger missed the first practice of the week Wednesday, which is not uncommon, but this one came with the injury designation and not as a coach’s decision.
Roethlisberger was one of four players, including three starters, who did not practice as the Steelers began on-field preparations for their game Sunday against the Green Bay Packers at Lambeau Field. Wide receiver JuJu Smith-Schuster (ribs), right tackle Chuks Okorafor (concussion) and backup defensive lineman Carlos Davis (knee) also did not practice.
Limited participants were outside linebackers T.J. Watt and Alex Highsmith, who are dealing with groin injuries that kept them out of the loss to the Bengals. Diontae Johnson also was limited with a knee injury that caused him to miss the Bengals game. Backup guard Rashaad Coward was limited with an ankle injury.
The rest of the players were listed as full participants, including right tackle Zach Banner, who practiced on the first day he was eligible after spending three weeks on injured reserve.
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Mike Tomlin: Ben Roethlisberger “absolutely” the best QB for Steelers offense
Posted by Myles Simmons on October 5, 2021, 2:38 PM EDT
Pittsburgh’s Ben Roethlisberger has struggled through the first four weeks of the 2021 season. But even as the Steelers quarterback is now dealing with hip issues, head coach Mike Tomlin said Roethlisberger remains the team’s best option at signal-caller.
When asked if Roethlisberger is the best QB for Pittsburgh’s offense, Tomlin responded, “Absolutely.”
“What he does and what he’s done makes me really comfortable in saying that,” Tomlin said, via Jeff Hathhorn of 93.7 The Fan.
With the Steelers at 1-3, Roethlisberger has thrown for 1,033 yards with four touchdowns and four interceptions. He’s completing 64 percent of his passes but gaining only 6.1 yards per attempt. That’s down from even last year when he averaged 6.3 yards per attempt.
But Tomlin said nearly everything that’s gone south with Roethlisberger can be fixed.
“Everything except mobility,” Tomlin said. “I don’t have an answer for that or lack thereof. Ben used to be able to run really good when he was young. Those days are behind him.”
“Other than that, I don’t see much that isn’t a discussion in terms of technical alterations or quality of play that can be improved.”
Tomlin noted that the Steelers haven’t cashed in on their big-play opportunities, which has kept the offense from being productive. Entering Week Five, Pittsburgh is 27th in total yards and 28th in points scored.
The Steelers do have Mason Rudolph and Dwayne Haskins on their roster as options at QB. But at least for now, things aren’t at a point where they’ll turn away from Roethlisberger and toward the younger options.
Posted by Myles Simmons on October 5, 2021, 2:38 PM EDT
Pittsburgh’s Ben Roethlisberger has struggled through the first four weeks of the 2021 season. But even as the Steelers quarterback is now dealing with hip issues, head coach Mike Tomlin said Roethlisberger remains the team’s best option at signal-caller.
When asked if Roethlisberger is the best QB for Pittsburgh’s offense, Tomlin responded, “Absolutely.”
“What he does and what he’s done makes me really comfortable in saying that,” Tomlin said, via Jeff Hathhorn of 93.7 The Fan.
With the Steelers at 1-3, Roethlisberger has thrown for 1,033 yards with four touchdowns and four interceptions. He’s completing 64 percent of his passes but gaining only 6.1 yards per attempt. That’s down from even last year when he averaged 6.3 yards per attempt.
But Tomlin said nearly everything that’s gone south with Roethlisberger can be fixed.
“Everything except mobility,” Tomlin said. “I don’t have an answer for that or lack thereof. Ben used to be able to run really good when he was young. Those days are behind him.”
“Other than that, I don’t see much that isn’t a discussion in terms of technical alterations or quality of play that can be improved.”
Tomlin noted that the Steelers haven’t cashed in on their big-play opportunities, which has kept the offense from being productive. Entering Week Five, Pittsburgh is 27th in total yards and 28th in points scored.
The Steelers do have Mason Rudolph and Dwayne Haskins on their roster as options at QB. But at least for now, things aren’t at a point where they’ll turn away from Roethlisberger and toward the younger options.
