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One of my favourite non WC players. Great to watch - as long as he wasn't playing against us
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One of my favourite non WC players. Great to watch - as long as he wasn't playing against us
Sttew
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No question there - first forward to kick more behinds than goals.
Wait what? I don't doubt that's true, but how the hell did people kick before the drop punt, what other method of kicking an oval ball straight forward is there?
Not positive, but i think Justin Madden was the first beanpole ruckman.
Apart from his ruck work which may or may not have been revolutionary, he revolutionised running like a new born giraffe.
Apart from his ruck work which may or may not have been revolutionary, he revolutionised running like a new born giraffe.
Adam Goodes only played in the ruck for two years. He doesn't count. Otherwise, I'd be talking about Goodes and Cox in conjuction.
Stynes may have been the first to do it, but it's taken Dean Cox to make it standard. Perhaps it was the fact that Stynes was Irish, thereby making him perceived as an exception to the rule, but it seems to me that only recently have coaches and players started to try to emulate Cox's role.
Wait what? I don't doubt that's true, but how the hell did people kick before the drop punt, what other method of kicking an oval ball straight forward is there?
Torpedo. Used for simple set shots right up until the 80s.
Wait what? I don't doubt that's true, but how the hell did people kick before the drop punt, what other method of kicking an oval ball straight forward is there?
The torpedo kind of goes straight.
The drop kick is one of the most accurate kicks possible if correctly executed.
But surely you can't use a torp for short passing? Does that mean that if I was to watch a game pre 1930 or whenever Dyer started out I'd actually see guys kicking nothing but torps and snaps and a few mongrels? The mind boggles
Ah yep that would be it, forgot about the drop kick. Still I can't imagine what the game would look like without drop punts! Crazy... I always just assumed they'd been around since the beginning
I've been told the drop kick was quite often used too.
peejay
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No but he did kick over 90 one year.
Oh i see what you mean now - kicking 100 goals means you change the way the game is played.
And i though the dropkick had gone out of the game
peejay
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Also the flat punt was very popular until the early 70's - watch some footage of Doug wade kicking goals for Geelong in the 60's and you will see it.
Matthew Primus is pretty much responsible for the (shitty) ruck rules that we have today.
'The Primus rule' was brought in to curb the dominance of guys like Primus who used their body to gain an advantage at the ruck contests. It of course was a spectacular failure that saw a ruckman go down nearly every week with a PCL injury, and from there we have arrived at the current basketball like ruck rules.
'The Primus rule' was brought in to curb the dominance of guys like Primus who used their body to gain an advantage at the ruck contests. It of course was a spectacular failure that saw a ruckman go down nearly every week with a PCL injury, and from there we have arrived at the current basketball like ruck rules.
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There is no doubt this thread has gone over your head. How did Buddy change the game in 2008?? Fantastic player, possibly a once in a generation player - but not sure how he has changed the game?
Ok I will sound stupid and this has little to do with the thread subject, but how does a flat punt differ from a drop punt?
20+ yrs after Stephen Micheal did it better
Cox wishes he could be any where near TI
dockers4ever
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Stephen Michael in the 80's.
Ruckman with midfield stats, but could also tackle and lay the best shirtfronts ever seen.
He was so far ahead of his time we are just catching up 20 years later
Goodes did pick up a Brownlow as a ruckman so maybe a few people noticed. And Cox just plays as Goodes did - and does it well.
Interesting thread, weakened by some who just don't get it. What about if we widen it to include coaches? Pagan's Paddock, Roos' Tempo Football, the current Hawks zone, the Cats' use of linked handpasses to get the ball clear of congestion, etc?
peejay
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Okay,
Imagine holding a footy in both your hands. the middle finger of both hands runs down the side seams. The ball lands exactly flat on your foot. the ball goes very straight when the kick is executed properly - not as far as a torpedo but just as straight as a drop punt.
The flat punt is harder to master than the drop punt and the speed of the modern game has killed off any other kicking style - its all about high percentage kicks - and even now he often get examples of bad drop punts, but that usually relates to not enough weighting on the kick.
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Perhaps Biased, but Chad Cornes with his attacking from the defensive 50 yet key position CHB style?
A flat punt is just that - you kick the flat of the ball rather than the point, but without the spin that you get on a torp. You hit the ball much higher from the ground than with a drop punt.
It's the way most rugby/league players traditionally kick (although the drop punt is getting into those games more
Ok I think I get it, but is the ball supposed to spin backwards, forwards or remain flat?
Will definitely be trying this next time I'm having a kick
Will definitely be trying this next time I'm having a kick
peejay
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It stays flat.
Sometimes it wobbles so is known as a wobbly punt.
The Kicker in Gridiron uses it all the time.
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