Possible reasons behind Rich Slide

[worsfold]

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,24683176-19742,00.html

there have been several mentions of Daniel rich sliding past the first 3 this article names the reasons why.

lack of Endurance is the main one (low beep tests)
Short arms and mature body some others.

but there is no doughting his ability.

 

[coasting]

He has been massively over-hyped in WA. He isn't sliding, he will go about where he is meant to go.

 

[daddy_4_eyes]

He has been massively over-hyped in WA. He isn't sliding, he will go about where he is meant to go.

At #2 or #3?

 

[Vinnie Vegas]

Rich has been overhyped in the real world (particularly W.A.) and underhyped on BigFooty, but the recruiters will get it right on draft day, and he will go at #3/#4, which is about right.

 

[coasting]

At #2 or #3?

Hopefully not #2

 

[Wizard]

Does anyone actually see him slipping past #3???

I honestly didn't but the Hill talk is really worrying me now, the more i hear it the more i worry.

I think it will be a monumental **** up if the Dockers overlook this kid. One of the worst mistake the club will ever make IMO.
Beep tests and that shit doesnt make a player. I'm sure you will find Joel Selwood doesnt excell athletically but hes a damn fine footballer.

 

[BadSeed]

Ben Cousins beep tests were always relatively shit, compared to other players at the club.. yet he is regarded as one of the hardest running midfielder?

Beep test doesn't tell the whole story.

 

[TOA.]

My 16yr old sister who plays abit of basketball on the weekend gets over 13. How a player who trainins 2-3 times a week and plays as a midfielder only gets that range raises question marks.

 

[jgb99]

Ben Cousins beep tests were always relatively shit, compared to other players at the club.. yet he is regarded as one of the hardest running midfielder?

Beep test doesn't tell the whole story.

Wasn't Cousins running 15s at WCE ? He wasn't the best beep test runner but was well up there IIRC.

Anyone that's seen Rich live would question his running ability ... he's definitely not a gut runner.

 

[TOA.]

Ben Cousins beep tests were always relatively shit, compared to other players at the club.. yet he is regarded as one of the hardest running midfielder?

Beep test doesn't tell the whole story.

Cousins didnt get the top times but he got over 15. Rosa and Rojo used to top the times when Ben was there, they would get about 15.8

 

[Mofra]

lack of Endurance is the main one (low beep tests)
Short arms and mature body some others.

I remember some chubby unfit ranga SA kid going at no 1 a few years back.
Adam something. Goes alright now aparently.

 

[escobar75]

Does anyone actually see him slipping past #3???

I honestly didn't but the Hill talk is really worrying me now, the more i hear it the more i worry.

I think it will be a monumental **** up if the Dockers overlook this kid. One of the worst mistake the club will ever make IMO.
Beep tests and that shit doesnt make a player. I'm sure you will find Joel Selwood doesnt excell athletically but hes a damn fine footballer.

wow....you must really rate him

 

[Burzum]

while Essendon, with pick No. 5, is expected to go for a key position player with Mal Michael retired and Dustin Fletcher, Matthew Lloyd and Scott Lucas not that far away from doing so.

That player would be Tyrone Vickery,

Ok, so we lose Mal Michael and Dustin Fletcher's about to retire so we take a ruckman that plays up forward? Makes sense. We already have Gumbleton and Neagle to fill the future KPF positions with Ryder and Pears to be our key defenders.

 

[TOA.]

Ok, so we lose Mal Michael and Dustin Fletcher's about to retire so we take a ruckman that plays up forward? Makes sense. We already have Gumbleton and Neagle to fill the future KPF positions with Ryder and Pears to be our key defenders.

Any young ruckmen ?

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Any young ruckmen ?

Hille, Bellchambers.

 

[TOA.]

Hille, Bellchambers.

So thats a no.

 

[Burzum]

Any young ruckmen ?

We have Bellchambers waiting and even though Laycock has been a spud, he's only 24 and can still improve. We didn't see Hille become a star until this past season.

 

[bomberstomake8]

Any young ruckmen ?

Hille, Laycock, Bellchambers and ryder.

we dont need another ruck just yet, if rich slides to us we would not pass him up, our primary need is a quality midfeilder with a great kick eg rich.

 

[Silvagnis]

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,24683176-19742,00.html

there have been several mentions of Daniel rich sliding past the first 3 this article names the reasons why.

lack of Endurance is the main one (low beep tests)
Short arms and mature body some others.

but there is no doughting his ability.

Is that a Freudian slip?

 

[Cruiser23]

He didn't do the beep test at draft camp did he?

 

[worsfold]

He didn't do the beep test at draft camp did he?

don't believe so due to injury but did atempt the repeat sprints close or over 26

Edit 26.48
http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/daniel-rich/2008/11/18/1226770458718.html

 

[Bomberlicious]

Any young ruckmen ?

How about the Eagles?

IMO, Vickery would be a good get, with a view to him playing as ruck.

Rich also would be nice; Either one I'm not fussed.

Over here in Sadelaide, I thought Vickery was a dead-set cert for the Power.

What happened?

 

[Cruiser23]

don't believe so due to injury but did atempt the repeat sprints close or over 26

So are most people guessing his beep test isn't great or has anyone actually got a result for him from the past?

 

[jgb99]

From the article linked in the OP:

"Early beep tests (10.7) suggested a query on endurance, although that was from Rich's time at the AIS in January, 2007.

He has since increased that test to 13.01, which while passable is a fair way from the elite midfield runners. "

 

[Bomberlicious]

Ryder is your next CHF or full back. - Agreed

You do need a young ruckman if Hille, Laycock and Bellchambers are your rucks.

Seems the Blues could do with him as well; The big Kreuze Missile seems a little in the Josh Fraser class - not quite a ruckman or a KPF, but a good bit of both.

Cloke & Hampson are servicable at best.

If I were a Bluebagger (thank God I'm not!!), I'd be hoping Vickery slides, not Rich.