Training Pre Season ‘25

[Drunken Wookie]

I disagree, but in terms of LOTW aka Lord shandy, he wouldn't know.

according to google a key way to prevent acls through training is focusing on running technicque and specifically foot landing. which is exactly what serpell is doing atm and what louie cut from the program in favour of camels and saunas.

 

[Sir_Loin]

hes graduated to the rehab group wtf has he been doing the last 12 months?

There’s a pre-pre rehab group then the pre-rehab group then the rehab group.

It’s like when you fly out of Changi and there’s 5 different queues before you get on the flight

 

[beema limapep]

according to google a key way to prevent acls through training is focusing on running technicque and specifically foot landing. which is exactly what serpell is doing atm and what louie cut from the program in favour of camels and saunas.

This is exactly my point, and in terms of the difference between Louie and Serpell, exactly what I expected.

 

[beema limapep]

Suprised half our players haven't developed bow legs or knock knees because of the last 2 years. Serpell will sort them out.

 

[tiger_tough]

hes graduated to the rehab group wtf has he been doing the last 12 months?

Just chilling.

Nah id say he's been cycling, weights etc inside. Now he's back out on the track.

 

[Drunken Wookie]

Hey all - I made it down to training this morning to take a look. They started about 9:20 - no public access for 'non-open' training but you have a pretty good view from the fence.

I'll post a few photos below of your forward and mid groups as they probably mean a bit more to you guys than me.

I have no pre-concieved views on any of these players so please take it as my views from a couple of hours only:

• Forward group: The forward group trained right infront of me - it was a drill where one of the keys wrestled with a coach, and tried to bring the ball to front and center to the crumbing forwards. Tom Lynch seemed to train fully, unimpeded and was cleary the most mature. The younger guys (Faucett, Sims, Colina, Bauer) seemed to struggle a bit vs the coach. The small fowards were very zippy, chatty and the finishing was sharp (Campbell, Sonsie, Mansell, Rioli) - that said the intensity was relatively low and there was no pressure.
• Midfield group: I was surprised that both Smilie and Lalor were in the midfield group - I thought I'd heard things about half back/half forward but they were both in there and didn't move. They did a drill where you'd recieve a handball and try to evade a tackler (and have a go at both). The clear standout was the way that Lalor approached the tackling - he gets low, and wide and is going to be a fierce tackler - looks like he's got the strength to really drive it home and make it hurt. When he was on the evasive side, he didn't really try to side step - more trusted his strength and hips to get through (think Rayner). Smilie tried to evade a little bit (not massively) and raise his hands high to keep his hands free (think Bont, Pendlebury).
• Rehab group: Prestia, Hotton, Faull, McCauliffe, Young, Lefau. There was a nice moment where all the 30-40 fit players came over to cheer the rehab groups run throughts in a break.
• Defence group: Was up the other end so didn't see anything. Balta was out there but wasn't with the Forwards.
• They did some full field sprints - I think Tom Brown one the 2nd one, a bit hard to see the other others.
• They they broke in to an almost full field drill - the highlight was Lalors cleanness and kicking. Not sure if it's been highlighted here, but I saw him take 4 varied kicks - all of which were drilled/weighted perfectly. I know he's strong, and clever but didn't realize he looked a very good kick as well. I also don't think I saw him fumble once - very impressed.

Any questions

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one of the best fan training reports I've seen and it's from a bloody bears supporter!

 

[Morro]

Hey all - I made it down to training this morning to take a look. They started about 9:20 - no public access for 'non-open' training but you have a pretty good view from the fence.

I'll post a few photos below of your forward and mid groups as they probably mean a bit more to you guys than me.

I have no pre-concieved views on any of these players so please take it as my views from a couple of hours only:

• Forward group: The forward group trained right infront of me - it was a drill where one of the keys wrestled with a coach, and tried to bring the ball to front and center to the crumbing forwards. Tom Lynch seemed to train fully, unimpeded and was cleary the most mature. The younger guys (Faucett, Sims, Colina, Bauer) seemed to struggle a bit vs the coach. The small fowards were very zippy, chatty and the finishing was sharp (Campbell, Sonsie, Mansell, Rioli) - that said the intensity was relatively low and there was no pressure.
• Midfield group: I was surprised that both Smilie and Lalor were in the midfield group - I thought I'd heard things about half back/half forward but they were both in there and didn't move. They did a drill where you'd recieve a handball and try to evade a tackler (and have a go at both). The clear standout was the way that Lalor approached the tackling - he gets low, and wide and is going to be a fierce tackler - looks like he's got the strength to really drive it home and make it hurt. When he was on the evasive side, he didn't really try to side step - more trusted his strength and hips to get through (think Rayner). Smilie tried to evade a little bit (not massively) and raise his hands high to keep his hands free (think Bont, Pendlebury).
• Rehab group: Prestia, Hotton, Faull, McCauliffe, Young, Lefau. There was a nice moment where all the 30-40 fit players came over to cheer the rehab groups run throughts in a break.
• Defence group: Was up the other end so didn't see anything. Balta was out there but wasn't with the Forwards.
• They did some full field sprints - I think Tom Brown one the 2nd one, a bit hard to see the other others.
• They they broke in to an almost full field drill - the highlight was Lalors cleanness and kicking. Not sure if it's been highlighted here, but I saw him take 4 varied kicks - all of which were drilled/weighted perfectly. I know he's strong, and clever but didn't realize he looked a very good kick as well. I also don't think I saw him fumble once - very impressed.

Any questions

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This is gold, unbias opinion is the best, very much appreciated mate.

 

[DM#4]

Hey all - I made it down to training this morning to take a look. They started about 9:20 - no public access for 'non-open' training but you have a pretty good view from the fence.

I'll post a few photos below of your forward and mid groups as they probably mean a bit more to you guys than me.

I have no pre-concieved views on any of these players so please take it as my views from a couple of hours only:

• Forward group: The forward group trained right infront of me - it was a drill where one of the keys wrestled with a coach, and tried to bring the ball to front and center to the crumbing forwards. Tom Lynch seemed to train fully, unimpeded and was cleary the most mature. The younger guys (Faucett, Sims, Colina, Bauer) seemed to struggle a bit vs the coach. The small fowards were very zippy, chatty and the finishing was sharp (Campbell, Sonsie, Mansell, Rioli) - that said the intensity was relatively low and there was no pressure.
• Midfield group: I was surprised that both Smilie and Lalor were in the midfield group - I thought I'd heard things about half back/half forward but they were both in there and didn't move. They did a drill where you'd recieve a handball and try to evade a tackler (and have a go at both). The clear standout was the way that Lalor approached the tackling - he gets low, and wide and is going to be a fierce tackler - looks like he's got the strength to really drive it home and make it hurt. When he was on the evasive side, he didn't really try to side step - more trusted his strength and hips to get through (think Rayner). Smilie tried to evade a little bit (not massively) and raise his hands high to keep his hands free (think Bont, Pendlebury).
• Rehab group: Prestia, Hotton, Faull, McCauliffe, Young, Lefau. There was a nice moment where all the 30-40 fit players came over to cheer the rehab groups run throughts in a break.
• Defence group: Was up the other end so didn't see anything. Balta was out there but wasn't with the Forwards.
• They did some full field sprints - I think Tom Brown one the 2nd one, a bit hard to see the other others.
• They they broke in to an almost full field drill - the highlight was Lalors cleanness and kicking. Not sure if it's been highlighted here, but I saw him take 4 varied kicks - all of which were drilled/weighted perfectly. I know he's strong, and clever but didn't realize he looked a very good kick as well. I also don't think I saw him fumble once - very impressed.

Any questions

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Cheers legend!

 

[Groupie_]

Gibcus has returned to training with the rehab group according to Caesar. He's alive.

been in rehab for 4 years

 

[Groupie_]

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wtf is that guernsey

 

[Sir_Loin]

wtf is that guernsey

It’s a training bra don’t worry about it

 

[Magic17]

Hey all - I made it down to training this morning to take a look. They started about 9:20 - no public access for 'non-open' training but you have a pretty good view from the fence.

I'll post a few photos below of your forward and mid groups as they probably mean a bit more to you guys than me.

I have no pre-concieved views on any of these players so please take it as my views from a couple of hours only:

• Forward group: The forward group trained right infront of me - it was a drill where one of the keys wrestled with a coach, and tried to bring the ball to front and center to the crumbing forwards. Tom Lynch seemed to train fully, unimpeded and was cleary the most mature. The younger guys (Faucett, Sims, Colina, Bauer) seemed to struggle a bit vs the coach. The small fowards were very zippy, chatty and the finishing was sharp (Campbell, Sonsie, Mansell, Rioli) - that said the intensity was relatively low and there was no pressure.
• Midfield group: I was surprised that both Smilie and Lalor were in the midfield group - I thought I'd heard things about half back/half forward but they were both in there and didn't move. They did a drill where you'd recieve a handball and try to evade a tackler (and have a go at both). The clear standout was the way that Lalor approached the tackling - he gets low, and wide and is going to be a fierce tackler - looks like he's got the strength to really drive it home and make it hurt. When he was on the evasive side, he didn't really try to side step - more trusted his strength and hips to get through (think Rayner). Smilie tried to evade a little bit (not massively) and raise his hands high to keep his hands free (think Bont, Pendlebury).
• Rehab group: Prestia, Hotton, Faull, McCauliffe, Young, Lefau. There was a nice moment where all the 30-40 fit players came over to cheer the rehab groups run throughts in a break.
• Defence group: Was up the other end so didn't see anything. Balta was out there but wasn't with the Forwards.
• They did some full field sprints - I think Tom Brown one the 2nd one, a bit hard to see the other others.
• They they broke in to an almost full field drill - the highlight was Lalors cleanness and kicking. Not sure if it's been highlighted here, but I saw him take 4 varied kicks - all of which were drilled/weighted perfectly. I know he's strong, and clever but didn't realize he looked a very good kick as well. I also don't think I saw him fumble once - very impressed.

Any questions

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Great stuff… appreciated.

 

[prodigy]

Hey all - I made it down to training this morning to take a look. They started about 9:20 - no public access for 'non-open' training but you have a pretty good view from the fence.

I'll post a few photos below of your forward and mid groups as they probably mean a bit more to you guys than me.

I have no pre-concieved views on any of these players so please take it as my views from a couple of hours only:

• Forward group: The forward group trained right infront of me - it was a drill where one of the keys wrestled with a coach, and tried to bring the ball to front and center to the crumbing forwards. Tom Lynch seemed to train fully, unimpeded and was cleary the most mature. The younger guys (Faucett, Sims, Colina, Bauer) seemed to struggle a bit vs the coach. The small fowards were very zippy, chatty and the finishing was sharp (Campbell, Sonsie, Mansell, Rioli) - that said the intensity was relatively low and there was no pressure.
• Midfield group: I was surprised that both Smilie and Lalor were in the midfield group - I thought I'd heard things about half back/half forward but they were both in there and didn't move. They did a drill where you'd recieve a handball and try to evade a tackler (and have a go at both). The clear standout was the way that Lalor approached the tackling - he gets low, and wide and is going to be a fierce tackler - looks like he's got the strength to really drive it home and make it hurt. When he was on the evasive side, he didn't really try to side step - more trusted his strength and hips to get through (think Rayner). Smilie tried to evade a little bit (not massively) and raise his hands high to keep his hands free (think Bont, Pendlebury).
• Rehab group: Prestia, Hotton, Faull, McCauliffe, Young, Lefau. There was a nice moment where all the 30-40 fit players came over to cheer the rehab groups run throughts in a break.
• Defence group: Was up the other end so didn't see anything. Balta was out there but wasn't with the Forwards.
• They did some full field sprints - I think Tom Brown one the 2nd one, a bit hard to see the other others.
• They they broke in to an almost full field drill - the highlight was Lalors cleanness and kicking. Not sure if it's been highlighted here, but I saw him take 4 varied kicks - all of which were drilled/weighted perfectly. I know he's strong, and clever but didn't realize he looked a very good kick as well. I also don't think I saw him fumble once - very impressed.

Any questions

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Thanks for this. Great to get an unbiased viewpoint.
Prestia in the rehab group again is a bit scary, hopefully precautionary.

 

[Noidnadroj]

Have no idea if he was mismanaged. However there definitely are preventative conditioning techniques to reduce the risk of acl injuries. There is debate about how much that risk can be reduced.

I won’t comment on the management of his hammy, or even the treatment and rehab of his ACL … but I’ve watched enough footy and seen enough ACL’s to know the Gibcus ACL was just bad luck.

I don’t care how much leg strength, stretching, weights and preventative measure he took leading up to that specific incident … no matter what he’d done in the lead up, he was doing his ACL that afternoon.

We’ve just got to hope his knees are not susceptible to repeat ACL’s like David Schwarz…


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[Coach_Required]

been in rehab for 4 years

Never even heard of this Gibcus, is he a train on?

 

[chriso11]

There’s a pre-pre rehab group then the pre-rehab group then the rehab group.

It’s like when you fly out of Changi and there’s 5 different queues before you get on the flight

Changi is the best airport in the world by a Flemington straight…

 

[Coach_Required]

Smillie & Lalor gunna carry us back up the ladder.

Won't need any more mids.

 

[Sir_Loin]

Changi is the best airport in the world by a Flemington straight…

Yeah it’s pretty awesome. Cleanest dunnys on the planet

 

[Danog]

• Forward group: The forward group trained right infront of me - it was a drill where one of the keys wrestled with a coach, and tried to bring the ball to front and center to the crumbing forwards. Tom Lynch seemed to train fully, unimpeded and was cleary the most mature. The younger guys (Faucett, Sims, Colina, Bauer) seemed to struggle a bit vs the coach. The small fowards were very zippy, chatty and the finishing was sharp (Campbell, Sonsie, Mansell, Rioli) - that said the intensity was relatively low and there was no pressure.

Any questions

Are you sure it was Sonsie in the forward group, or was it possibly Jasper Alger? They look kind of similar.

 

[McLuggages]

Are you sure it was Sonsie in the forward group, or was it possibly Jasper Alger? They look kind of similar.

 

[Coach_Required]

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Not sure why Richmond think we can make sonsie into a small forward.

The ridiculous thing and this is why some of us tear our hair out is because when Sonsie doesn't make the senior side the club will be playing him in the VFL midfield.

 

[fargothegreat]

Not sure why Richmond think we can make sonsie into a small forward.

It's probably more the coaches thinking they can't make Sonsie a mid. Most likely his last year this year

 

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[lizard man]

Prestia in the rehab group makes me sad

 

[cairo tiger]

whose 37? The tap fawcett?