Preseason Teams: Rate them, critique them and praise them.

[TheRednWhite]

So how come you've still got the Macrae moniker??

He probably won me a crucial match up last year, and has done nothing wrong since for me to change it. Hopefully it inspires him to another 120+ season or maybe even potential pig status

 

[browncow]

First attempt for the year.
Balance feels a bit out of whack when I look at my team. Can't quite put my finger on it. Maybe it is just the fact that the backs and forwards don't have any true rookies on field whereas the mids have three that I have never seen play before.

DEF - Crisp, Docherty, Houston, Roberton, Doedee, S.Hill (Young, Gould)
MIDS - Macrae, Gaff, Coniglio, Mitchell, Oliver, Rowell, Anderson, Pickett (McHenry, Bytel, Robertson)
RUCK - Grundy, Jacobs (Cameron)
FWD - Whitfield, Martin, Smith, Steven, Townsend, Cockatoo (Rankine,King).

Thoughts?

 

[Bandicoot]

He probably won me a crucial match up last year, and has done nothing wrong since for me to change it. Hopefully it inspires him to another 120+ season or maybe even potential pig status

Not a true Swan supporter then.

 

[Bandicoot]

First attempt for the year.
Balance feels a bit out of whack when I look at my team. Can't quite put my finger on it. Maybe it is just the fact that the backs and forwards don't have any true rookies on field whereas the mids have three that I have never seen play before.

DEF - Crisp, Docherty, Houston, Roberton, Doedee, S.Hill (Young, Gould)
MIDS - Macrae, Gaff, Coniglio, Mitchell, Oliver, Rowell, Anderson, Pickett (McHenry, Bytel, Robertson)
RUCK - Grundy, Jacobs (Cameron)
FWD - Whitfield, Martin, Smith, Steven, Townsend, Cockatoo (Rankine,King).

Thoughts?

I see very little wrong with it although I'm not a fan of Crisp. Too inconsistent for me.

 

[go you pups]

Even though Whitfield currently has a 62% ownership, I'm not starting him. I'm more than confident that his value will drop in the first 7 weeks or so when my first upgrade may be taking place. I'm 100% sure that his value will not increase meaning it won't cost more in making him an upgrade target.
Another concern would be that you are only starting with 13 keepers imo (highlighted) whereas I've got 13 keepers in my starting lineup. Simply means more trades required.

Whitfield is on my shitlist

Not going near him til I can carry his inevitable injuries, so he's a last upgrade target

*who was it that was on my shitlist a few years ago that seemed to annoy you? (I know Taylor Adams was one, might've been Beams)

 

[go you pups]

Dunno

Might finally pick Jelly, apparently he's fully fit, but I don't rate his durability

 

[Cattas_21]

Trying to squeeze an extra premo in the mids and need the best mid under 640k. 2 names stick out: Jelwood and dare I say it, Angus Brayshaw. I don't even know what Bray has to do in JLT for me to pick him again. I'm warming to the idea of Jelwood though, he gets his inside mid spot back this year I think.

Be wary of Jelwood. He's had an extremely limited pre-season due to hamstring issues and has recently had an operation. He's no guarantee to play Round 1 either

 

[Bandicoot]

Whitfield is on my shitlist

Not going near him til I can carry his inevitable injuries, so he's a last upgrade target

*who was it that was on my shitlist a few years ago that seemed to annoy you? (I know Taylor Adams was one, might've been Beams)

Yeah, it was Adams who ended up playing all 22 games that year.
BTY - Is it time to start asking members about commiting to leagues yet?

 

[Leuy LongerCombo]

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Have had a delayed start to preseason but this is my first go this year, would appreciate any feedback.
I'm comfortable with the structure and the cash still left over but worried about the number of keepers I have. I only count 11 if I'm lucky:
ZWilliams
Doch
Crae
Taranto
Dunks
Titch
Cripps (trade to Rocky before round 3)
Grundy
Whit
Devon
Steven

I need Houston's mid time to continue well after Wines returns or I'm in strife with him, Roberton, Hill and Doedee in the same back line. Considering whether I should go with a more guns and rookies approach and just get Lloyd or Houli in and downgrade Roberton/Doedee

I've paid up for the uber mids in Dunks, Crae and Taranto. Glad I stuck with my aim of picking mids who tackle and don't get tagged. But then I did pick Cripps again.... but like I said he will be traded to Rocky before round 3 anyway.

Fwd rookies were awful on first look so that's why I've gone so deep with guys like Brayshaw and Steven. Am nervous even fielding Ranking at F8 so can't bear to field any more fwd rookies. Hope Wingard's mid time continues (Bradkli is this likely?) because he was good at the back end of last year, he's my POD and I like him over HGreenwood.

I really like the structure, a few selections I’m not overly huge on, but hey that’s personally preference.

As discussed I think there is some decent value in the backline this year. I can see a few of those ~600k player raising their average enough to justify being season long keepers. I personally don’t like the Williams selection, he got decent midfield time towards then end of the season which I don’t see as a given this year.

Midfield is extremely similar to mine, basically Taranto for Cogs. The tackling mids seem to be the ones who can get the really big scores and still get a decent score on a bad day. I’m happy to pay full price here this year, at this stage there’s no ones that screams a Taranto style break out like last year.

The forward line is tricky, I’d happily start with Whitfield, but just takes too much away from the side overall. Id have Whitfield and Dusty as the best two forward, but not necessary the best starting picks. I’ve came around to Heeney as the next best forward option so he’s sitting as my F1 currently. I can see myself going with a few of those 500k players here, I really want to avoid the forward rookies at present. I would suggest moving Hill forward, Young if named would be a better starting proposition than Rankine.

On the discussion about needing to start with as many premium as possible, I don’t think there is a magic number. Not all upgrades are equal, potentially you could upgrade Brayshaw/Houston to Lloyd/Dusty with just the one Rookie downgrade, whereas you could easily need 2 downgrade rookies to make the rookie upgrade to Lloyd. Downgrade targets can be few and far between too, all been caught selecting the wrong one, I was caught out a few time last year carrying 200k+ for multiple weeks waiting.

 

[TheRednWhite]

I really like the structure, a few selections I’m not overly huge on, but hey that’s personally preference.

As discussed I think there is some decent value in the backline this year. I can see a few of those ~600k player raising their average enough to justify being season long keepers. I personally don’t like the Williams selection, he got decent midfield time towards then end of the season which I don’t see as a given this year.

Midfield is extremely similar to mine, basically Taranto for Cogs. The tackling mids seem to be the ones who can get the really big scores and still get a decent score on a bad day. I’m happy to pay full price here this year, at this stage there’s no ones that screams a Taranto style break out like last year.

The forward line is tricky, I’d happily start with Whitfield, but just takes too much away from the side overall. Id have Whitfield and Dusty as the best two forward, but not necessary the best starting picks. I’ve came around to Heeney as the next best forward option so he’s sitting as my F1 currently. I can see myself going with a few of those 500k players here, I really want to avoid the forward rookies at present. I would suggest moving Hill forward, Young if named would be a better starting proposition than Rankine.

On the discussion about needing to start with as many premium as possible, I don’t think there is a magic number. Not all upgrades are equal, potentially you could upgrade Brayshaw/Houston to Lloyd/Dusty with just the one Rookie downgrade, whereas you could easily need 2 downgrade rookies to make the rookie upgrade to Lloyd. Downgrade targets can be few and far between too, all been caught selecting the wrong one, I was caught out a few time last year carrying 200k+ for multiple weeks waiting.

Thanks for the feedback!
I agree with you on Young, he is too good to bench. I made the switch yesterday, Hill fwd, Young on ground. But kept Rankine F6 and instead bailed on Andy Brayshaw...this got me another premo mid into my side. So only 2 mid rookies on field now but could go back to 3 mid rookies and an extra fwd premo. All depends on preseason games and which rookies impress.

 

[TheRednWhite]

Not a true Swan supporter then.

Lloyd could be the new pic for me later on but I'm not starting with him in my side this year. And I don't really get excited by Heeney's 90s. I only use bigfooty for fantasy purposes so that's my reasoning.

 

[TheRednWhite]

Dunno

Might finally pick Jelly, apparently he's fully fit, but I don't rate his durability

Same thoughts, he is top tier along with Crae but it's too costly when he misses games. Upgrade target for me because he'll probably go on a big 130+ streak and force my hand

 

[TheRednWhite]

First attempt for the year.
Balance feels a bit out of whack when I look at my team. Can't quite put my finger on it. Maybe it is just the fact that the backs and forwards don't have any true rookies on field whereas the mids have three that I have never seen play before.

DEF - Crisp, Docherty, Houston, Roberton, Doedee, S.Hill (Young, Gould)
MIDS - Macrae, Gaff, Coniglio, Mitchell, Oliver, Rowell, Anderson, Pickett (McHenry, Bytel, Robertson)
RUCK - Grundy, Jacobs (Cameron)
FWD - Whitfield, Martin, Smith, Steven, Townsend, Cockatoo (Rankine,King).

Thoughts?

I'd be nervous with Crisp D1, he is capable of real stinkers. He saved his score countless times last year with big finishes, just don't need that kind of stress at D1.
I think you should just field Young, and trade Crisp for an extra mid or fwd premo. Young seems to be one of the safest rookies to field in any position, but we'll know more after preseason games. But yeah, Crisp is way over priced, I'd wait until he inevitably drops a lot in price.

 

[Bandicoot]

Lloyd could be the new pic for me later on but I'm not starting with him in my side this year. And I don't really get excited by Heeney's 90s. I only use bigfooty for fantasy purposes so that's my reasoning.

I wouldn't dream of having the image of a player from another team representing me. If you can't find a player that suits, you can go with a generic image such as mine.

 

[Bandicoot]

Obviously we can't start with all the top players in each category and in my case, I'm not starting with any of them other than Grundy. So the players I'm taking on at the start but expect to upgrade them at some stage are Lloyd, Treloar, Merrett, Dangerfield, Gawn, Whitfield and Martin. I've $69K left in the bank.
I'm still not 100% on Steven although a 68 starting price should be pretty safe.

 

[go you pups]

Yeah, it was Adams who ended up playing all 22 games that year.
BTY - Is it time to start asking members about commiting to leagues yet?

You can start a rankings screenshot thread if you want and I'll add to it to organise leagues

I'm a little busier this year than previous years though

 

[Mezzoculo]

Hey folks. Had a few years of fantasy detox but I'm back for 2020. Here's my team. Feeling pretty confident with the premos and midpricers.
Rookies obviously dependent on being named in round one. Would love some (constructive) criticism!
Happy to provide justification for specific players.

 

[TheRednWhite]

I wouldn't dream of having the image of a player from another team representing me. If you can't find a player that suits, you can go with a generic image such as mine.

I guess I don't take my avatar picture that seriously

 

[TheRednWhite]

Hey folks. Had a few years of fantasy detox but I'm back for 2020. Here's my team. Feeling pretty confident with the premos and midpricers.
Rookies obviously dependent on being named in round one. Would love some (constructive) criticism!
Happy to provide justification for specific players.

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4 mid rookies on ground is a different structure than most are going with but could be viable if mid rookies impress in preseason games. English pick is surprising though, he is never going to be a keeper so might as well go Jacobs?

 

[go you pups]

4 mid rookies on ground is a different structure than most are going with but could be viable if mid rookies impress in preseason games. English pick is surprising though, he is never going to be a keeper so might as well go Jacobs?

4 mid rookies was the go a few years ago when Swannie and GAJ were still leading the way and guys like JOM were rookies. 2013 maybe?

Could pump cash in other positions

These days there's more variance in midfield though (only Titchell the true standout midfield pig), so 5 deep there is probably more popular

 

[TheRednWhite]

4 mid rookies was the go a few years ago when Swannie and GAJ were still leading the way and guys like JOM were rookies. 2013 maybe?

Could pump cash in other positions

These days there's more variance in midfield though (only Titchell the true standout midfield pig), so 5 deep there is probably more popular

I have only been cursed with the fantasy game for a short while. Wasn't around in the days of Swannie, GAJ and prime Rocky. Could imagine the game being a lot more fun back then. I could not imagine fielding 4 mid rookies but could have done it last year maybe if we knew Walsh was that good

 

[Dugong]

4 mid rookies on ground is a different structure than most are going with but could be viable if mid rookies impress in preseason games. English pick is surprising though, he is never going to be a keeper so might as well go Jacobs?

I’ve recently switched to English. He had a good finish to 2019, he’s all but sewn up the number 1 ruck at the Dogs. I like him for a POD. High risk/high reward and in that sense, no different to Jacobs. Depending what GWS do with Mummy, Jacobs is just as risky in my opinion. But each to their own!

 

[Mezzoculo]

4 mid rookies on ground is a different structure than most are going with but could be viable if mid rookies impress in preseason games. English pick is surprising though, he is never going to be a keeper so might as well go Jacobs?

I'm super bullish on English and am happy to have him at R2 all season. Those rookies are a concern but given they are largely more expensive then I have some cash to play with should I replace them with an upgrsde/downgrade pairing. Worst case is I free up extra cash by turning Josh Kelly to Cripps and switch out Roberton.

 

[TheRednWhite]

So Wingard training with the mid group, there goes my POD perhaps...or are people still favouring Hugh Greenwood?

 

[go you pups]

So Wingard training with the mid group, there goes my POD perhaps...or are people still favouring Hugh Greenwood?

I'm a big fan of Wingard this year, but don't want to see him up forward in JLT

I think he'll play a Heeney type of half half role but he's cheap enough to get value from