Review PSD:- What do we think?

[incog43]

FWIW I don't see 30yo as a rose-coloured glasses guy, I think he is more balanced than some of the misery guts who most likely are merely sublimating their own levels of affect...his posts are un-emotive and discuss facts....he has a low frustration tolerance, but so would I after suffering 30 years of dysphoria

Firstly, how the hell do you spell coloured, I always get it highlighted as an error as well!

Secondly, 30yo has an opinion and I respect it.

Thirdly, enough of your dry humour!

 

[AndSmithMustScore]

You could ask Collingwood, Richmond and Essendon the same question. Not our fault we had the money to go out there and spend it on players. At least our competition isn't like the EPL, where the same 3-4 teams win the title each year.

I don't need to go ask them.

I'm responding to someone from our club who is holding up these flags as an example of our great recruiting over the years.

I'm merely pointing out that those flags don't count in the context of todays playing field taking into consideration the impact of zone removals and cap introduction.

 

[Alpha1]

A flag is a flag, I don't care how we won those flags. Just like all those other teams who threw the cash around and won flags. Unfortunately for us the AFL decided to make an example of us while at the same time letting the bummers, wobblers etc get away with it. That is the past, but hopefully we have learned and we are going to come out of this stronger, tougher and much much better. The signs are there, we let one of our best players go because we had enough. I am sure doing that sent out a very loud signal to the rest of the young group, and I am pleased we are drafting young kids who are mature, and have their heads screwed on the right way.

 

[incog43]

I fricken love this thread. It has a bit of biffo and then there is a bit of love. You cant get better than that.

Rose coloured glasses off - Group hug everyone !

 

[The Toad]

I fricken love this thread. It has a bit of biffo and then there is a bit of love. You cant get better than that.

 

[Salaryman]

Thirdly, enough of your dry humour!

ok

 

[incog43]

Enough fun, gotta get back to stuffing this corpse

 

[AndSmithMustScore]

Have a think about what you are suggesting. You seem to be saying that some suburbs might have something about them...what the soil??? that produces better footballers.

We had superior talent scouts able to extract maximum value from the geographical zone we had.....but to suggest one zone was better than another...I must alert David Attenborough because you seemed to have found something that anthroplogists might want to know about......

Oh good lord.

The Bendigo zone WAS one of the best areas for young footballers for years for Carlton.

It was FAR superior to say the Ballarat zone form which St Kilda recruited.

So have a think about what you are typing next time you make comment on such things.

 

[Tanks_Alot]

Finally some people are seeing it. Harker, Malifice BB, Kramer, Splendini, TheGeneral + many more all fight hard to make their point on these forums but absolutely say relevant stuff. They can play the ball or the man but above all have relevant stuff to say which is worth READING.

90% of your stuff is completely garbage, completely irrelevant and you play the man as well. You don't help your side of an argument at all, and you're sheep following the group.

Be rude, but at least make sensible points!

EXACTLY what I was trying to say to him

 

[The Toad]

Rose coloured glasses off - Group hug everyone !

F**k inc you quoted my post before I even posted it.

 

[40yearBLUE]

That too, personally although we have had some bitter disagreements on here, I think some of the things you post do have value, but 80% of the time you seem to live in another world.

I do, I live in ARL country........ah now thats livin

 

[incog43]

F**k inc you quoted my post before I even posted it.

Its a kinda magic

Now if only this corpse would stay still

 

[Tanks_Alot]

You could ask Collingwood, Richmond and Essendon the same question. Not our fault we had the money to go out there and spend it on players. At least our competition isn't like the EPL, where the same 3-4 teams win the title each year.

The 81 GF was on 7TWO Sunday Morning

 

[invinciBlues]

Can't you guys just be happy that Cloke is gone?!

 

[Alpha1]

30year I have to admit you rock, you have a knack of firing things up, where no fire existed.

 

[BlackGoanna]

I fricken love this thread. It has a bit of biffo and then there is a bit of love. You cant get better than that.

Yeah, dont know whether to back in cyber-punks or the cyber-monks.

 

[40yearBLUE]

Oh good lord.

The Bendigo zone WAS one of the best areas for young footballers for years for Carlton.

It was FAR superior to say the Ballarat zone form which St Kilda recruited.

So have a think about what you are typing next time you make comment on such things.

Do you have a scientific explanation for this geographic phenomenon Dr Smith?

Or perhaps was it that per 1000 population (any population) there might be x (x being the actual number, we could for the sake of this argument call it 3) gun footballers, but Stkilda had a bum for a recruiter that pulled names out of hats because he did not have the dedication that the Carlton recruiter had and as a result his results were even more random than usual but the Carlton guy had a much better strike rate, giving amateur anthropologists the mistaken impression there was something geographic about recruiting success, so again perhaps you might want to rethink your thesis Dr Smith?

 

[BlueGibbs2011]

The players say their pre-season is hard but what about us supporters!!

This is the hardest keyboard pre-season I have done to date!

PS
i'm holding out until the new year for everyone's new year's resolutions to kick-in just for a breather!

 

[HBF]

I don't need to go ask them.

I'm responding to someone from our club who is holding up these flags as an example of our great recruiting over the years.

I'm merely pointing out that those flags don't count in the context of todays playing field taking into consideration the impact of zone removals and cap introduction.

But recruiting back in the day came in all shapes and sizes. Paul Meldrum walked in off the street and asked for a game, whereas a Stephen Kernahan was chased very hard by our football club. We still had to find these players, turn them into VFL footballers. Look at Wayne Johnston, he wasn't wanted by Melbourne, played a year with Prahran in 1978, and then twelve months later, he had just played in a VFL premiership.

Whilst I agree that we got the "rub of the green" with one of our recruiting zones, that's only a small part of it.

 

[Silvagnis]

I like what we did in this draft.

It looks like we made a decision to draft the best available early, before addressing need with the later picks.

Cachia and Dare sound like types who will put their head over the ball.

And Dare can kick.

We need these types plus developing KPP in the seconds.

Yet I'm not confident about players drafted after or before Fisher, Allen, Cloke, Newton, Meeson, Fisher and Oakley-Nicholls.

Nonetheless, great logical selections by our recruiting team.

What happens with them from now on is out of Hughes' hands.

Hughes and co. have done their job.

It's up to Ratten and Cordy to whip them into shape and make them into AFL players.

 

[AndSmithMustScore]

Do you have a scientific explanation for this geographic phenomenon Dr Smith?

Or perhaps was it that per 1000 population (any population) there might be x (x being the actual number, we could for the sake of this argument call it 3) gun footballers, but Stkilda had a bum for a recruiter that pulled names out of hats because he did not have the dedication that the Carlton recruiter had and as a result his results were even more random than usual but the Carlton guy had a much better strike rate, giving amateur anthropologists the mistaken impression there was something geographic about recruiting success, so again perhaps you might want to rethink your thesis Dr Smith?

Yes there's an explanation for it.

It's called in the western world "blind luck".

Carlton got lucky with its zone, others not so fortunate.

A recruiter back then had far less to worry about knowing that other clubs couldn't touch a player in that zone until another team had passed them by.

And you're still passing over the fact our financial clout landed us alot of great players because we could ffer them more than alot of our rivals could.

 

[Kramer1]

Really good work all round guys.

But now that you've all had a turn, and the biscuit is good and soggy, what do you think about our performance in the rookie draft?

 

[Salaryman]

Really good work all round guys.

But now that you've all had a turn, and the biscuit is good and soggy, what do you think about our performance in the rookie draft?

Huh? What's a rookie draft?

 

[AndSmithMustScore]

But recruiting back in the day came in all shapes and sizes. Paul Meldrum walked in off the street and asked for a game, whereas a Stephen Kernahan was chased very hard by our football club. We still had to find these players, turn them into VFL footballers. Look at Wayne Johnston, he wasn't wanted by Melbourne, played a year with Prahran in 1978, and then twelve months later, he had just played in a VFL premiership.

Whilst I agree that we got the "rub of the green" with one of our recruiting zones, that's only a small part of it.

Well then technically we didn't recruit Meldrum, he picked us

The Kernaham era was the last time we got to splash our cash around to good effect.

After that as a club our arrogance meant we were one of the last clubs to finally realise we were in a national competition and the old rules we played under weren't applicable any more.

That's why we landed in so much shit for so many years.

If we'd had someone stand up then and question our clandestine practices we might have avoided alot of that hardship.

Alas nobody did, but fortunately its now water under the bridge and we are setting ourselves up to be a modern football club and an elite force onces again.

 

[Fastcrew]

really excited by Caboult and Dare

Joe Dare is a good mackie-like defender and fills a good needs basis and is a hard worker

Someone posted how Casboult was similar to Lade and was happy he had a good kick for a big guy

great rookie draft well done wayne hughes also like what i've heard of Cachia