Private schools are not for profit.
Public vs Private School funding
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Yes, but schools will receive different cuts of the same pool though.
If 20 private schools shut down and 20,000 kids enter the public system how exactly does this benefit anyone?
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Middle class welfare is the Howard legacy
Giving more to people who need it less to set them against those who need it most
I never said wealthy, I said your access to education shouldn't be decided by what your parents can afford to pay.
I said wealth not wealthy
Every time funding for education is distributed the public system is fighting with the private system for that funding.
The problem is the public system doesn't have the influence or leverage the private system does.
As long as the private system has access to government funding the public system will be disadvantaged
And as already mentioned as long as the private system exists and is subsidised by public money, enough people can afford it to limit the pressure on governments to better fund the public system
But we've been over all of this before and you don't care because you're taking advantage of this middle class welfare and you don't want the advantage you're able to get from it to go away because you don't care about the wider impact, only getting yours
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Cultural assimilation is good for the country, yeah?
To accommodate the 20,000 kids? Possibly, but unlikely... yet, that wouldn't place anyone in a better position than they are now, would it? Because the additional funds would go toward covering basic needs for those 20,000 kids.
I wouldn’t suggest there is a significant cultural divide between people who attended private vs public schools.
Ok extra money goes in because 20,000 extra kids go in. Now tell me how this benefits anyone’s education?
There is no guarantee the government wouldn’t lower their “per student” budget if private schools disappeared.
Regardless the money would need to come from somewhere so the state would be losing in another way if it wasn’t changed.
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Sure but that isn't what you've been arguing.
Feds also fund education but massively biased towards private
There's a very simple model in place, it's been going on for decades and it's happening across the board with government services in every single government that is neoliberal
Allow the private sector into public services so there is an alternative
Start subsidising the private sector at the expense of the public
Public service gets worse, use that as an excuse to pour more into the private sector/ fully privatise the public service
Transfer massive amounts of public money and assets into private entities who are for profit.
Sure they set up a not for profit or charity shell and just "happen" to be owned by a for profit parent company
The only people that benefit from this in the end are the people who own those companies
Private school kids aren't getting a better education
They do get better facilities though. Can't deny that.
Public school students tend to do better at uni.
Thirty studies and 15 years later: review shows public schools produce same results
A detailed analysis of almost 30 academic studies has found public, private and Catholic schools produce the same results when comparing children from similar socioeconomic backgrounds.
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lol
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they just wont shut down - its just a bluff. they’ll pay double what they are now. Cash in their super. whatever it takes to keep their kids away from ours.
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then there’s not much point debating you. you’re in denial or fantasyland
I'm currently reading John Howard's autobiography. In it, he boasts about:
And that's part of how we ended up in this stupid situation where almost half of parents have abandoned public schools. Why is it the taxpayer's job to help set up a new private school? **** me.
- How Robert Menzies helped break the Labor Party's grip on Catholics by starting extensive federal funding for Catholic schools
- How the Howard government boosted federal funding to better enable new independent schools to start in competition with the local public and Catholic school
And that's part of how we ended up in this stupid situation where almost half of parents have abandoned public schools. Why is it the taxpayer's job to help set up a new private school? **** me.
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exactly Howard was the architect of this abomination
I have plenty of friends and family who went to a mix of private and public school and no one gives a rats ass where you went once you are 20
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Well, you seem to care.
How so? Certainly not what this discussion is based on.
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You can Lol. All it does is demonstrate your ignorance. Any surplus or ‘profit’ generated by a private school has to be ploughed back into the school. There are no shareholders receiving dividends.
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Why would they have to? Aren’t they paying enough for private health to make it adequate? Or is the entire “private” health and schools systems just a Rort?
