Umpiring Questionable Umpiring Decisions

[Sentinel]

Starting a thread to discuss one-off umpiring decisions from current games, which I figure might be useful for this forum rather than start a new thread (or for it to be lost within a match day thread) each time something unusual/debatable/questionable pops up.

Two from the weekend past:

Owies appearing to dive forward into the ground to play for a dangerous tackle. Hard to understand what Maynard could do differently in this instance, and was not cited by the MRP. Does accentuating contact like this need to be umpired differently, against the bloke with the ball?


This 50m penalty against the Richmond player for dropping the ball post siren. Very similar to the game a season or two back where Warner kicked it into the crowd and was not given a 50m penalty (which would have led to a shot on goal to draw the game). The inconsistency is maddening, in my mind given the siren clearly influenced both acts there should be no penalty in either instance.

 

[2big sound]

Usually because of gloating by the undeserving.

 

[lordbob]

It still wastes time. Not time for the players perhaps, but it extends the length of the game as a whole due to longer being required to finish the quarter. Or does the break start when the siren goes and not when the play has actually finished?

 

[smasha]

Starting a thread to discuss one-off umpiring decisions from current games, which I figure might be useful for this forum rather than start a new thread (or for it to be lost within a match day thread) each time something unusual/debatable/questionable pops up.

Two from the weekend past:

Owies appearing to dive forward into the ground to play for a dangerous tackle. Hard to understand what Maynard could do differently in this instance, and was not cited by the MRP. Does accentuating contact like this need to be umpired differently, against the bloke with the ball?


This 50m penalty against the Richmond player for dropping the ball post siren. Very similar to the game a season or two back where Warner kicked it into the crowd and was not given a 50m penalty (which would have led to a shot on goal to draw the game). The inconsistency is maddening, in my mind given the siren clearly influenced both acts there should be no penalty in either instance.

Gary Lyon ticked this off yesterday.
Now having a good look,I was at the game but this was on the other side of the ground.
What a bloody rort by the umpire but I expect nothing less from these cheats when umpiring Richmond games.
And once again they wear a colour that clashes with the Richmond jumpers,that's a CFL issue.

Still shake my head at that decision by the "umpire".

Umpires are quick to use "common sense" against Richmond but ignore this common sense decision.

I just saw the umpire pluck something out of nothing and was fiercely angry,the Tiger Army were ready to jump onto the ground for that crap.

 

[smasha]

Laura Kane poor form on Molloys show when Mick asked the question of biased umpiring and she deflected the answer then fat shamed Molloy by offering him a huge umpires Guernsey.
No explanation whatsoever because she knew deep down and did not want to admit it.

 

[danster168]

Melbourne is too tough for this game. The game rewards soft marshmallows that can't handle the physicality. embarassing ticky touchwood free kicks paid these days.

 

[Vindicater]

Melbourne is too tough for this game. The game rewards soft marshmallows that can't handle the physicality. embarassing ticky touchwood free kicks paid these days.

But it does allow throwers to prosper and you have well and truly benefited from that.

 

[danster168]

But it does allow throwers to prosper and you have well and truly benefited from that.

Who? Oliver? One of the best handballers in the game right there.

 

[Vindicater]

Who? Oliver? One of the best handballers in the game right there.

 

[HTPunter]

The advantage rule needs looking at

 

[HTPunter]

On the flip side, Chris Scott

Chris Scott

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complaining about holding the ball rule puts into context how players fans & coaches will never be happy.

He wants the ball player to be given opportunity to get rid of it once tackled to keep the game moving. But he also wants the whistle blown immediately to prevent dump tackles.

“It’s kind of like, that is a whistle and a ball-up straightaway or it’s holding the ball.”

“We should protect the ball-player who’s trying to keep the game going and if he hasn’t had prior opportunity, he should get time to try to get rid of it. But if it’s clearly locked up, play a stoppage.”

What’s clearly locked up? What is prior opportunity, how much time should someone who hasn’t had prior opportunity get to get rid of it - enough time for a 720 spin, which is clearly locked up? But then they miss their boot and it’s incorrect disposal and it’s a free kick against the ball player who is trying to keep the game going.

Fans need to STFU and realise how unrealistic it is to Expect to have perfect decision umpiring in a 360 fast paced game where half the rules are grey areas. fans don’t even know half the rules ffs.

 

[PhatBoy]

On the flip side, Chris Scott complaining about holding the ball rule puts into context how players fans & coaches will never be happy.

He wants the ball player to be given opportunity to get rid of it once tackled to keep the game moving. But he also wants the whistle blown immediately to prevent dump tackles.

“It’s kind of like, that is a whistle and a ball-up straightaway or it’s holding the ball.”

“We should protect the ball-player who’s trying to keep the game going and if he hasn’t had prior opportunity, he should get time to try to get rid of it. But if it’s clearly locked up, play a stoppage.”

What’s clearly locked up? What is prior opportunity, how much time should someone who hasn’t had prior opportunity get to get rid of it - enough time for a 720 spin, which is clearly locked up? But then they miss their boot and it’s incorrect disposal and it’s a free kick against the ball player who is trying to keep the game going.

Fans need to STFU and realise how unrealistic it is to Expect to have perfect decision umpiring in a 360 fast paced game where half the rules are grey areas. fans don’t even know half the rules ffs.

Swings and roundabouts.

Port got away with a heap of throws and drops last night I thought but in at least one game this year the same happened to us (can’t remember which game) so it tends to even out

 

[Romeoh1]

On the flip side, Chris Scott complaining about holding the ball rule puts into context how players fans & coaches will never be happy.

He wants the ball player to be given opportunity to get rid of it once tackled to keep the game moving. But he also wants the whistle blown immediately to prevent dump tackles.

“It’s kind of like, that is a whistle and a ball-up straightaway or it’s holding the ball.”

“We should protect the ball-player who’s trying to keep the game going and if he hasn’t had prior opportunity, he should get time to try to get rid of it. But if it’s clearly locked up, play a stoppage.”

What’s clearly locked up? What is prior opportunity, how much time should someone who hasn’t had prior opportunity get to get rid of it - enough time for a 720 spin, which is clearly locked up? But then they miss their boot and it’s incorrect disposal and it’s a free kick against the ball player who is trying to keep the game going.

Fans need to STFU and realise how unrealistic it is to Expect to have perfect decision umpiring in a 360 fast paced game where half the rules are grey areas. fans don’t even know half the rules ffs.

Not quite what he was saying- but the htb rule is being given a lot more time and leniency this year and it’s not a welcome addition for mine. You happy with the more generous interpretation?

 

[Mitchell Madness]

On the flip side, Chris Scott complaining about holding the ball rule puts into context how players fans & coaches will never be happy.

He wants the ball player to be given opportunity to get rid of it once tackled to keep the game moving. But he also wants the whistle blown immediately to prevent dump tackles.

“It’s kind of like, that is a whistle and a ball-up straightaway or it’s holding the ball.”

“We should protect the ball-player who’s trying to keep the game going and if he hasn’t had prior opportunity, he should get time to try to get rid of it. But if it’s clearly locked up, play a stoppage.”

What’s clearly locked up? What is prior opportunity, how much time should someone who hasn’t had prior opportunity get to get rid of it - enough time for a 720 spin, which is clearly locked up? But then they miss their boot and it’s incorrect disposal and it’s a free kick against the ball player who is trying to keep the game going.

Fans need to STFU and realise how unrealistic it is to Expect to have perfect decision umpiring in a 360 fast paced game where half the rules are grey areas. fans don’t even know half the rules ffs.

Define the tackle.
I've said for years it's simple
League is elbow spot or momentum
Nfl is knee spot or momentum

Afl is when the umpire "thinks" play has stopped.

 

[Sarcoidevo]

Hawks v Saints ... last quarter .... downfield free paid for Saints player fairly and legally bumping a Hawks player as he was kicking the ball ... Hawks player still had the ball in hand when he was bumped ... bump wasn't late

 

[Sentinel]

Tonight's free kick against Sullivan for not handing the ball directly back to the umpire. What rule exactly has he broken here? 18.13.d "engages in Time Wasting"?

If so, it seems ridiculously technical and, given no apparent intent from the "offending" player to time waste, not a free kick which should be paid at any time of the game or any position on the ground.

 

[BigFrizz36]

Tonight's free kick against Sullivan for not handing the ball directly back to the umpire. What rule exactly has he broken here? 18.13.d "engages in Time Wasting"?

If so, it seems ridiculously technical and, given no apparent intent from the "offending" player to time waste, not a free kick which should be paid at any time of the game or any position on the ground.

Wasn't time wasting as the clock was stopped.

 

[Sentinel]

Wasn't time wasting as the clock was stopped.

You can time waste with the clock stopped - doing so can allow your defence to reposition themselves.

This wasn't an example of that given they might have gained 1 second at most. It was just a stinker of a decision, unless there's specifically a rule which states they must hand the ball back directly (which I haven't seen and don't believe exists).

 

[kaiserchief13]

Tonight's free kick against Sullivan for not handing the ball directly back to the umpire. What rule exactly has he broken here? 18.13.d "engages in Time Wasting"?

If so, it seems ridiculously technical and, given no apparent intent from the "offending" player to time waste, not a free kick which should be paid at any time of the game or any position on the ground.

Hurting the umpires ego - new rule introduced today

 

[ReidBetweenTheLines]

3 minutes before gifting Fremantle a goal 10m out…

 

[Sentinel]

3 minutes before gifting Fremantle a goal 10m out…

Troy Nicholls on the flight back to Melbourne tomorrow: "now I know what a victory feels like".

 

[BF Tiger]

It was the correct interpretation of a crap rule tonight.

 

[Sweeetleftfoot]

It's in the rules. No time wasting.

How is it time wasting when the clock is stopped ?

 

[YeoShuey]

LOL.

Freo goal touched by Quaynor clearly touched and paid a goal anyway. Deplorable.

 

[Nicco_jj]

It was reviewed as every goal is - they decided that on the evidence available it wasn't touched

The up late footy show guys just had a look at it. "clearly touched" based on the vision available. All three guys agreed...

Hard for the goal ump to call a score review when he's 40m away from it.

The quick review seemed pretty obvious. Am I missing something?