NO TROLLS Racism Bombshell Claim - Carlton and Essendon Named

[Cyber_punk]

All 18 clubs on notice as class action lawsuit expands

Into historical racism

wwos.nine.com.au

 

[Mofra]

His defence will be "I can't remember" and he probably can't with all the knocks to the head he has taken.

Are those head knocks in schooners or pints?
He gets a little thirsty by an accounts....

 

[Jim Prideaux]

Uh yes, predictable deflection. Other types of deflection such as 'but in some areas, whites are the minority' or 'we white get discriminted in blah blah industries' have also been used. The context of racism in the current time is totally irrelevant to the period when white got enslaved.

Today, Aus is a nation built during the victoria era, an era known for it's legalised slavery and violent colonisation. The wealth of white nations have been built on exploitation, rape and pillage of other colonies. The racists we are talking about are not only those doing the aggressive abuse but also those trying to 'help' them. Those 'help' is not for the victims but for the personal aggrandization of those 'helpers' as they want to satisfy their moral compass.

Not to be pedant, and I agree with the jist of your statement, but slavery was outlawed in the British empire prior to Victoria’s reign from my memory. Otherwise, yes, wholeheartedly agree.

 

[Jim Prideaux]

Where is it happening now ?

Recruiting and drafting

 

[Corkintheocean]

Not to be pedant, and I agree with the jist of your statement, but slavery was outlawed in the British empire prior to Victoria’s reign from my memory. Otherwise, yes, wholeheartedly agree.

Correct. Emancipation Act was in 1833 and she came to power in 1837.

Of course the abolition of slavery doesn't equate to the abolition of mistreating colonised people.

 

[Cmarsh]

All 18 clubs on notice as class action lawsuit expands

Into historical racism

wwos.nine.com.au

Pretty sure there were no racial vilification laws in place at the time of the claims through the 70's and 80's. Wouldn't fly in court I would think.

 

[kaiserchief13]

What do they want out of it?

 

[Cmarsh]

What do they want out of it?

Money I assume.

 

[Jim Prideaux]

Correct. Emancipation Act was in 1833 and she came to power in 1837.

Of course the abolition of slavery doesn't equate to the abolition of mistreating colonised people.

No, certainly not.

 

[HairyO]

What do they want out of it?

They arent going through the HRC so you can guess.

 

[Blue1980]

Pretty sure there were no racial vilification laws in place at the time of the claims through the 70's and 80's. Wouldn't fly in court I would think.

I wouldn’t have thought so. Though they mentioning expanding it up to 2022, though I can imagine it getting rather he said/she said.

 

[perplexed]

What do they want out of it?

Why do you need to question the motivations of the victims?

 

[Altum Volantes]

I wouldn’t have thought so. Though they mentioning expanding it up to 2022, though I can imagine it getting rather he said/she said.

One way to keep it in the news.

‘The VFL was very racist in the 70s and 80s - in some cases quite outwardly so’

Well duh, that comes as a surprise to nobody, so was most of Australia.

If they want public outrage and people calling for heads it’s going to need something within the last 30 years.

 

[South of the Yarra]

“As long as they conduct themselves like white people" I guess everything will be ok,

 

[Freomaniac]

His life might’ve turned out differently if he wasn’t abused all the time hey,
But you do you.

Sadly it's a similar story with Robbie "mad dog" Muir. Talented Aboriginal player in the 1970s and 1980s. Played in the SANFL for West Torrens and Woodville.

Point is Muir was copped a lot of racial abuse in his day.

 

[HairyO]

Why do you need to question the motivations of the victims?

Because at the moment its alleged. And the path is very different to the Hawthorn case where they wanted to go through the HRC for apologies.

As opposed to going to the Supreme Court demanding money.

 

[South of the Yarra]

Because at the moment its alleged. And the path is very different to the Hawthorn case where they wanted to go through the HRC for apologies.

As opposed to going to the Supreme Court demanding money.

People encourage victims of Domestic violence and crime to seek compensation but victims of racism against Aboriginals are money chasers if they seek compensation.

 

[South of the Yarra]

Sadly it's a similar story with Robbie "mad dog" Muir. Talented Aboriginal player in the 1970s and 1980s. Played in the SANFL for West Torrens and Woodville.

Point is Muir was copped a lot of racial abuse in his day.

Nearly all Aborigiinal players in the 70s and 80s copped it.

 

[Freomaniac]

I can't remember who the player was, but he admitted him and others would say racist comments to Robbie Muir to make him snap and give away free kicks due to his short fuse. (Also a few punches thrown by Robbie as a result too).

Racism was unfortunately a tactic

Adam Goodes has been racially vilified, yet he gets some support. Sadly Robbie Muir has to fend for himself.

The racial abuse Muir went through was horrific. He even got racially abused in SANFL games too , not just VFL

 

[Freomaniac]

and Broome.
Look at the little jarjums being tied up by a non owner for jumping in the neighbours pool.

I saw that too. That was sad

 

[Freomaniac]

That’s so sad that some are educated in the way of hate and intolerance at such an early stage of life.

Sad that this stuff is still recent. Eddie Betts copped it badly when it comes to racism. Admittedly it was only once in a showdown when a banana was thrown at him.

Eddie Betts kids copped it too sadly earlier this year when some random clown yelled the "n" word that rhymes with digger over the back yard fence.

 

[perplexed]

Because at the moment its alleged. And the path is very different to the Hawthorn case where they wanted to go through the HRC for apologies.

As opposed to going to the Supreme Court demanding money.

Yes it's alleged. But is anyone actually disputing that the Krakouers and others were regularly racially abused during their careers? We can call them victims, and we don't need to question their motives.

Tonight the AFL has their dreamtime game. Every year the cameras pan to Sheedy who is celebrated as some sort of hero for what he did for Aboriginal players. I imagine this is sickening for anyone who thinks Sheedy was a perpetrator of abuse against them.

 

[HairyO]

People encourage victims of Domestic violence and crime to seek compensation but victims of racism against Aboriginals are money chasers if they seek compensation.

I wouldnt necessarily suggest they seek compensation either.

Im pointing out the different approaches being followed.

 

[campbell]

Nearly all Aborigiinal players in the 70s and 80s copped it.

They still do.

 

[Kram]

They still do.

Personally either playing or watching footy from the 90s in WA I haven't seen any racism whatsoever, these days thankfully I'd say its likey to be very rare.