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footy mad 2 said:
Leigh mcinerny, belville, aaron james, spud,
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Sorry Footy Mad 2 but I would have to disagree with three of your four nominations. Belville is a genuine chance, he has been a solid performer over the last 10 years, the others, Aaron James, only played 1 year, McInerny has only come into his own over the last 2 years, didn't have much impact on games prior to having better players around him and Spud, IMO, is still not anywhere near the likes of Cuffe (who he'd be up against in selection for the ruck). Just an observation, not an attack, I know it's your opinion, I'm just encouraging healthy debate to help fine tune the selection process:thumbsu:

My picks off the top of my head....

Luke Edwards (Romsey)
Mark "Bulldog" Strack (Romsey)
Lee James (Riddell)
Andy Stewart (Kilmore)
Michael Werner (Gisborne)
Brad Fox (Gisborne)
Matthew Cox (Romsey) - Stiffest bloke not to win a Bowen
Dean Helmers (Sunbury/Macedon) there you go Mongrel, I'll nominate you!
Fitzpatrick (Wallan)
Cuffe (Romsey)

I'll get to thinking about a few more....
 
Harry Wilson said:
Sorry Footy Mad 2 but I would have to disagree with three of your four nominations. Belville is a genuine chance, he has been a solid performer over the last 10 years, the others, Aaron James, only played 1 year, McInerny has only come into his own over the last 2 years, didn't have much impact on games prior to having better players around him and Spud, IMO, is still not anywhere near the likes of Cuffe (who he'd be up against in selection for the ruck). Just an observation, not an attack, I know it's your opinion, I'm just encouraging healthy debate to help fine tune the selection process:thumbsu:

My picks off the top of my head....

Luke Edwards (Romsey)
Mark "Bulldog" Strack (Romsey)
Lee James (Riddell)
Andy Stewart (Kilmore)
Michael Werner (Gisborne)
Brad Fox (Gisborne)
Matthew Cox (Romsey) - Stiffest bloke not to win a Bowen
Dean Helmers (Sunbury/Macedon) there you go Mongrel, I'll nominate you!
Fitzpatrick (Wallan)
Cuffe (Romsey)

I'll get to thinking about a few more....
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Harry, how about Darren Kemp. He played in 3 flags for Kilmore in 3 different decades (87, 94 and 01). on his day he would've been more dominant than Andy Stewart.
 

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vantheman32 said:
It would be great to play in a premiership side with hopefully some of these young blokes returning for a 2 or 3 seasons. They would still have plenty of time to go play in the Bigger Leagues around Vic, Intrinsic values are something i hold highly, My old man always talks about:
1. how strong the league was
2. The great rivalries with opposition sides, nothing better then beating sunbury and lancefield. Especially in 80s when he was president.
3. The great social events around the club.
4. The best players in the league
5. When he played in the very early 70s that they were paid only 10 bucks a week haha

When i look at the 87 premiership side i see the names dad talks so fondly about, Darren Kemp, The Dalgliesh brothers, Wayne George, Grant Kayll, Nick Monaghan, Hussey, Clancy etc. Or how he so easily remembers everything from the 71 flag and talks about Terry Mills, Ross Clark, Robert Reid, Geoff Briggs, John Green, Wayne Henderson, etc

I want to do the same thing in 30 yrs time and talk about how Blokes like Mcintrye webb huy robbo kemp cornish kingy burger and the rest play in a flag or two together. i know theres nothing better, just from winning a flag with some of those fellas at ACK in 05.
My dream Kilmore Team for next few yrs could read something like this(prob not likely and alot of ifs and buts)
Colliver Barnes Duff
Kempy Mcintyre Hardiman
Newham Robbo Barton
Hede Salter Still(Captain)
Cornish Mills King

Wittmar Colliss, Ramsdale Etc
Webb
Huy
Add unknown recruits at this moment and the squad would be very dangerous, i know this is all ifs and buts, it would be great to have a side like that.
Just would be awesome for the club and town n possibly the league
of course i forgot some people i just realised goudge n strayney but ya just have to wait n see what happens.
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We aint here for the future lads, the future is determined by what we do today so play for the moment, play for today. Surround yourself with good people and good things will happen in time.

Talking about flags down the track is ok to dream about, but to insinuate the Blues are hoping of luring guys back for a better tilt at it later on is the ultimate kick in the guts to guys like me good mate Rysa and your older heads who think the list is good enough now.

A lot can happen between now and whenever then is gunna be and a lot of the above talk is hypothetical, who's gunna come, who's gunna go, who'll get injured during that supposed magical period.

They aint got forever, have tasted they success you strive - you young guys should be feeding off their knowledge, working harder on the track and having a red hot go at playing finals this year . . . . as I said earlier if you all play to your capabilities you will amaze yourselves (and your opposition).

It's starts on the track, two nights a week plus more, be the best you can, dont all try and be like Robbo, or Twitty just be the best you can as individuals and the rest will fall into place.

DO NOT WAVE THE WHITE FLAG AND TALK OF DOWN THE TRACK . . . . .Tez, Jamie and your older players deserve better get yourselves up for a big month and you'll be surprised at what momentum can do
 
why dont we stick to the players we know at your club, maybe even add the position they played so that we can match them against someone else. for example sims- midfield, belleville - midfield,
would make the peoples job of picking and sorting though this team alot easier.

this is wha i mean:
for example
woodend-heskett:
backline players:
player a
b
c
d
ect
midfielders:
a
b
c
d
fowards:
a
b
c
d
ect.
it then sorts out the players into catogories that everone can relate to and form an opinion on, if we keep throwing up names it will get to confusing.

just an idea
 
BrownDog2 said:
what's Macedon's ground like for tomorrow? I assume it was trained on last night?
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With such an important weekend of football here is the ground reports. This is not a go at clubs we all know everyone tries to get their grounds in the best possible condition. The ratings will be from Good 1 to Heavy 10 with Good 3 being ideal for footy .

Romsey's oval; Firm with good grass coverage, patchy at CHF Tennis club end with the FF area at that end a bit softer and patchy. Overall rating Dead 5.

Riddel's oval; Surprisingly firm, clubroom wing a bit patchy with some surface water in small areas at the old duck farm end. Plenty of Cape Weed on surface (needs spraying before it gets to woody) because of the cape weed (strap ankles). Overall rating Dead 6 some areas Heavy 7.

Lancfield's oval; Slippery with reasonable grass coverage club rooms area a bit patchy. Overall Rating Dead 6.

Macedon's oval; Very slippery clubrooms wing with not much grass, small areas of surface water but firm underfoot. Area of most concern would be centre square with little grass on clubrooms side of cricket pitch. Overall rating Heavy 8.

Woodend's oval; Extremely wet and in some places at golf course end allmost unplayable. Will be very cut up by seniors. Obviosly not trained on last night if at all this week. Overall rating Heavy 10+.
 
Doona2 said:
We aint here for the future lads, the future is determined by what we do today so play for the moment, play for today. Surround yourself with good people and good things will happen in time.

Talking about flags down the track is ok to dream about, but to insinuate the Blues are hoping of luring guys back for a better tilt at it later on is the ultimate kick in the guts to guys like me good mate Rysa and your older heads who think the list is good enough now.

A lot can happen between now and whenever then is gunna be and a lot of the above talk is hypothetical, who's gunna come, who's gunna go, who'll get injured during that supposed magical period.

They aint got forever, have tasted they success you strive - you young guys should be feeding off their knowledge, working harder on the track and having a red hot go at playing finals this year . . . . as I said earlier if you all play to your capabilities you will amaze yourselves (and your opposition).

It's starts on the track, two nights a week plus more, be the best you can, dont all try and be like Robbo, or Twitty just be the best you can as individuals and the rest will fall into place.

DO NOT WAVE THE WHITE FLAG AND TALK OF DOWN THE TRACK . . . . .Tez, Jamie and your older players deserve better get yourselves up for a big month and you'll be surprised at what momentum can do
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:thumbsu::thumbsu::thumbsu:well said doona. that was always the problem when times were tough in 02, 03 players would think about how good the side would be next year rather than worrying about what they can change now.
self belief is the biggest thing there. They can do it, but they have want to do it not only for themselves but also as a club as well. too many players have regrets after they have retired rather than treating every game as there last . for every game they play, they are one step closer to retirement. regardless of your age, who knows what tomorrow, next week or year can bring.
 
Halffullonfence said:
With such an important weekend of football here is the ground reports. This is not a go at clubs we all know everyone tries to get their grounds in the best possible condition. The ratings will be from Good 1 to Heavy 10 with Good 3 being ideal for footy .

Romsey's oval; Firm with good grass coverage, patchy at CHF Tennis club end with the FF area at that end a bit softer and patchy. Overall rating Dead 5.

Riddel's oval; Surprisingly firm, clubroom wing a bit patchy with some surface water in small areas at the old duck farm end. Plenty of Cape Weed on surface (needs spraying before it gets to woody) because of the cape weed (strap ankles). Overall rating Dead 6 some areas Heavy 7.

Lancfield's oval; Slippery with reasonable grass coverage club rooms area a bit patchy. Overall Rating Dead 6.

Macedon's oval; Very slippery clubrooms wing with not much grass, small areas of surface water but firm underfoot. Area of most concern would be centre square with little grass on clubrooms side of cricket pitch. Overall rating Heavy 8.

Woodend's oval; Extremely wet and in some places at golf course end allmost unplayable. Will be very cut up by seniors. Obviosly not trained on last night if at all this week. Overall rating Heavy 10+.
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Few blokes had a run on small parts of Woodend last night fair to say, cut up by the seniors is an understatement. Could be a soccer match first score could win. Dissapointing for a big match!
 
Rodriguez said:
Few blokes had a run on small parts of Woodend last night fair to say, cut up by the seniors is an understatement. Could be a soccer match first score could win. Dissapointing for a big match!
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Terrible management by Woodend, should have moved the game and made the call earlier......
 

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Trueblueroo said:
Terrible management by Woodend, should have moved the game and made the call earlier......
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Club stayed off the ground for 6 weeks and have already moved one game. Trained on the ground last week and tuesday was pretty soft under foot but very playable.

Unfortunately bucked down yesterday, I guess if not predicting weather conditions is terrible management than yes. Has full grass coverage and looks a picture. Will look OK for the 18's, but will be cacti by the 1's.

Conditions will be similiar to a final played at macedon in '02. I think Centrals won 2.3 to 1.12.
 
Harry Wilson said:
Sorry Footy Mad 2 but I would have to disagree with three of your four nominations. Belville is a genuine chance, he has been a solid performer over the last 10 years, the others, Aaron James, only played 1 year, McInerny has only come into his own over the last 2 years, didn't have much impact on games prior to having better players around him and Spud, IMO, is still not anywhere near the likes of Cuffe (who he'd be up against in selection for the ruck). Just an observation, not an attack, I know it's your opinion, I'm just encouraging healthy debate to help fine tune the selection process:thumbsu:

My picks off the top of my head....

Luke Edwards (Romsey)
Mark "Bulldog" Strack (Romsey)
Lee James (Riddell)
Andy Stewart (Kilmore)
Michael Werner (Gisborne)
Brad Fox (Gisborne)
Matthew Cox (Romsey) - Stiffest bloke not to win a Bowen
Dean Helmers (Sunbury/Macedon) there you go Mongrel, I'll nominate you!
Fitzpatrick (Wallan)
Cuffe (Romsey)

I'll get to thinking about a few more....
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Harry I did not see a minimum time limit anywhere therefore a james would have to be named. In your opinion L mc has come into his own in the LAST couple of year therefore they count. As for spud and cuff there would be far better judges than me. If not ruck could he squeeze in any where else as I believe he is a player of hu\ge quality.
 
Trueblueroo said:
Terrible management by Woodend, should have moved the game and made the call earlier......
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That is bullcrap, Some blokes need to deal with it, Football is a winter sport, you play the ground as it is, the only time a venue should be changed, is if it's a final or like earlier in the year dangerously hard.
Too many players complain about conditions, it is local footy, harden up or go and play something inside by your heater.:thumbsdown:
No telstra dome in RDFL
 
Halffullonfence said:
Lesson for all football clubs with recycled water "Make sure drainage is able to cope with excess water during winter". Recycled water great for cricket clubs not so great for football clubs, make sure you know your winter useage allocations.
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Next year the roos should have recycled water, Hume council install rain sensors at all grounds, so hopefully this problem doesn't happen.
 
Got no problem playing it, Blues just would have thought for a game with a bit at stakem, I would have thought Woodend may have looked at moving it, to catter for a bigger specticle. That's all.
 
footy mad 2 said:
Harry I did not see a minimum time limit anywhere therefore a james would have to be named. In your opinion L mc has come into his own in the LAST couple of year therefore they count. As for spud and cuff there would be far better judges than me. If not ruck could he squeeze in any where else as I believe he is a player of hu\ge quality.
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I'm not saying L McInerny shouldn't be included and yes his form over the last couple of years definately counts, I'm just saying that there would be longer serving, better performers in the same time period. Where would he line up? If you say in the middle, then surely Fitzy from Wallan, Coxy or Luke Edwards from Romsey and Brad Fox would be more likely to get the nod. Remembering two of the four blokes I have just mentioned won Bowen medals playing in the middle. As stated earlier Matty Cox is probably the unlukiest bloke not to win a Bowen and Brad Fox played AFL. Fox's sheer size and ferocity at both the ball and the player saw him become the most dominant centre man in the league. As far as Aaron James is concerned, would you name him at Full Forward? If so, do you not think that Lee "Slugga" James has been the most consistant, dominant Full Forward in our league over the last 5 years? Surely he deserves to be named the Full Foward of the decade. Spud is a player of huge quality, I'm not doubting that, but he doesn't dominate the game the way Cuffe used to. I had the pleasure of playing with Cuffe and he was as dominant at ground level as he was in the Ruck and likewise around the ground, taking big contested marks. Like I stated earlier, just my opinion and of course you're entitiled to yours. Great to see some healthy debate about footy rather than the BS that gets bantied about sometimes on this thread:thumbsu:
 
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