Richmond need the no 1 pick in this years draft

[Doug Hogan]

Having watched Richmond they are in desperate need of assistance at this years national draft!
Surely the AFL must step in & award them the first pick as well as pick 4!
To me it seems ludicrous to hand the Gold Coast all these top picks when a struggling club like the Tigers are in dire straits!
The way it is atm no club will be able to rebuild through the draft over the next few years.
Obviously GC17 & GWS need to get their clubs up & running but not at the expense of those who also want to thrive in this competition!

Well, given your club has won 1 game from your last 8 by a single point agsint Port, after the softest possible draw ever given to a side to start the year, perhaps you guys need more concessions given you are three years into a rebuild. 11 out of your first 12 in Victoria.

Talk about premature exhiliration!

 

[Pee Tear Griffin]

I love the fact that Richmond supporters are obsessed with our club.

 

[HyperAgressiveDonk]

I love the fact that Richmond supporters are obsessed with our club.

And I love the sh**fights between Melbourne and Richmond about who has the brighter future

Reminds me of Carlton and Hawthorn fans arguing in 06/07 about who had the brighter future and better young players. And we all know how that turned out don't we!!

 

[NQTIGER]

I love the fact that Richmond supporters are obsessed with our club.

Obsession? what club does the OP support?

Get your skis on sonny........

 

[NQTIGER]

Well, given your club has won 1 game from your last 8 by a single point agsint Port, after the softest possible draw ever given to a side to start the year, perhaps you guys need more concessions given you are three years into a rebuild. 11 out of your first 12 in Victoria.

Talk about premature exhiliration!

 

[crisis talks]

Well, given your club has won 1 game from your last 8 by a single point agsint Port, after the softest possible draw ever given to a side to start the year, perhaps you guys need more concessions given you are three years into a rebuild. 11 out of your first 12 in Victoria.

Talk about premature exhiliration!

Gold douglass..gold!

Melbourne's last two months have been rubbish and their cocky supporters got carried away early after an easy draw to start the year.

 

[94_Eagles]

Pretty sure the OP spelt West Coast wrong in the thread title.

 

[On the bench]

Gold douglass..gold!

Melbourne's last two months have been rubbish and their cocky supporters got carried away early after an easy draw to start the year.

Like our supposed easy draw to start the season which included Hawthorn & Collingwood in rounds 1 & 2 Richmond have beaten the three most rubbish teams in the comp as we speak over the past month,oh yes we beat some rubbish teams at the time earlier on in the year Richmond included as one of them!

 

[Sin City]

And we all know how that turned out don't we!!

No, we don't. It's only 2010.

 

[crisis talks]

Like our supposed easy draw to start the season which included Hawthorn & Collingwood in rounds 1 & 2 Richmond have beaten the three most rubbish teams in the comp as we speak over the past month,oh yes we beat some rubbish teams at the time earlier on in the year Richmond included as one them!

The same hawthorn who missed the finals the year before that lost their next 6 games? You were classifying that one as a "hard" game? LMAO!

You had 11 out of your first 12 in Victoria and the away one was at a neutral venue. You draw at the start was a disgrace and it over inflated your stocks.

Do you want to compare? In the same period we went interstate five times and a trip to Geelong-all in the first 12 weeks. As an example, inconsectitve weeks, we went Freo at freo, Geel at geel then followed by adelaide at adelaide. All this time, you were going to the G week after week against interstate sides.

We are now getting that part of the draw( and rightly so) and I am merely pointing out that all the hoo ha about Melbourne was overstated because of an incredible draw.
I have never heard of a side having their first 11 in Victoria?

 

[coke_zero]

They could have had Franklin. However, maybe they can draft a star this year if they finish bottom. It'll be hard with Gold Coast coming in, but then again maybe a later pick is better for Richmond, as they seem to get flustered with number 1 or 2.

we have Deledio and Cotchin from picks 1 and 2. i think you fail buddy.

No, we don't. It's only 2010.

pretty sure that premier ship begs to differ. They will probably get close to it again. Carlton will finish 7th-8th and go no where again.

 

[NQTIGER]

The same hawthorn who missed the finals the year before that lost their next 6 games? You were classifying that one as a "hard" game? LMAO!

You had 11 out of your first 12 in Victoria and the away one was at a neutral venue. You draw at the start was a disgrace and it over inflated your stocks.

Do you want to compare? In the same period we went interstate five times and a trip to Geelong-all in the first 12 weeks. As an example, inconsectitve weeks, we went Freo at freo, Geel at geel then followed by adelaide at adelaide. All this time, you were going to the G week after week against interstate sides.

We are now getting that part of the draw( and rightly so) and I am merely pointing out that all the hoo ha about Melbourne was overstated because of an incredible draw.
I have never heard of a side having their first 11 in Victoria?

That was done so it wouldnt interfere with the start of the Ski season, we all know how passionate they are about their club.

 

[Rimmer]

We could make the finals now and if we do we could win, would they give the first draft choice to the premiers

 

[HurleyLegend]

That was done so it wouldnt interfere with the start of the Ski season, we all know how passionate they are about their club.

I know Richmond have shown some really promising form of late, but at the end of the day, I agree the AFL should make special consideration and give Richmond the number 1 pick.

Whilst Richmond have some good talent (Cotchin-pick 2, Martin-pick3, Delideo- pick 1, Reiwold- pick 13), they do not have the mass amount of talent coming through that other teams do down the bottom of the ladder. They really need another 6-7 top echelon talented youngsters coming through if they are ever going to be able to get rid of all the dreck on their list.

For this reason they will struggle to make finals for the next few years. Too many stuffed up draft picks, only really nailing picks in the first 3 picks.

Richmond need help to get them out of the stuff ups of past seasons, and the AFL should intervene. It's unfair the AFL give GC17 every chance to succeed, but neglect Victorian teams

 

[NQTIGER]

I know Richmond have shown some really promising form of late, but at the end of the day, I agree the AFL should make special consideration and give Richmond the number 1 pick.

Whilst Richmond have some good talent (Cotchin-pick 2, Martin-pick3, Delideo- pick 1, Reiwold- pick 13), they do not have the mass amount of talent coming through that other teams do down the bottom of the ladder. They really need another 6-7 top echelon talented youngsters coming through if they are ever going to be able to get rid of all the dreck on their list.

For this reason they will struggle to make finals for the next few years. Too many stuffed up draft picks, only really nailing picks in the first 3 picks.

Richmond need help to get them out of the stuff ups of past seasons, and the AFL should intervene. It's unfair the AFL give GC17 every chance to succeed, but neglect Victorian teams

I would be looking in your own back yard first, we are in a rebuild and progressing quite nicely, you guys are in freefall ( coach not getting on with palyers) (coach not getting on with press) (coach not getting on with club champions) and as for the Tanking Brigade mark II.

They shot their bolt after a average start to the season when they were talking about finals. Now all they can look forward to is another SKI season.

We all said we were going to finish bottom or close to it.

WE didnt predict top 8 unlike some of your fellow supporters, we didnt over rate our list and have never asked for draft concessions.

 

[jko'neal]

I know Richmond have shown some really promising form of late, but at the end of the day, I agree the AFL should make special consideration and give Richmond the number 1 pick.

Whilst Richmond have some good talent (Cotchin-pick 2, Martin-pick3, Delideo- pick 1, Reiwold- pick 13), they do not have the mass amount of talent coming through that other teams do down the bottom of the ladder. They really need another 6-7 top echelon talented youngsters coming through if they are ever going to be able to get rid of all the dreck on their list.


Please tell me the other teams and name the talent they have coming through???????? You must be watching different games then I do each week.
Melbourne 3 years into a rebuild, have they improved at all?
West Coast, where are they at?
Port, see WC
Our first year players have shown more then some of these teams 2nd and 3rd year players.

 

[worthy]

The most important selection Richmond have made in the last 5 years is Hardwick as coach, the renewed spirit and the development of players is already noticeable, out with the Wallace show and in with tough footy. Should be a big improver in 2011.

 

[Sin City]

pretty sure that premier ship begs to differ. They will probably get close to it again. Carlton will finish 7th-8th and go no where again.

I think where they end up after about 10-12 years will be a better indicator of who had the best young talent, a lot can happen between now and then.

 

[NAUGHT5]

IMO the problem at the moment for them is that in comparison to Melbourne:

Scully = Martin
Cotchin = Trengove
Riewoldt = Watts (obviously not as good atm)


Outside of that top bracket Melbourne still have Gysberts, Jurrah, Tapscott, Jones, Pettard, Frawley, Morton, Grimes, Bate etc. as youngsters with a nice blend of older guys like Green, Moloney, Davey, McDonald, Jamar, Bruce etc. (Sylvia doesnt really fit either category)

Richmond dont have that sort of quality IMO. And whilst at the moment they're travelling a bit better in terms of form, long term you still need the superior cattle no matter how good the coach is.

 

[Demonheart]

The same hawthorn who missed the finals the year before that lost their next 6 games? You were classifying that one as a "hard" game? LMAO!

You had 11 out of your first 12 in Victoria and the away one was at a neutral venue. You draw at the start was a disgrace and it over inflated your stocks.

Do you want to compare? In the same period we went interstate five times and a trip to Geelong-all in the first 12 weeks. As an example, inconsectitve weeks, we went Freo at freo, Geel at geel then followed by adelaide at adelaide. All this time, you were going to the G week after week against interstate sides.

We are now getting that part of the draw( and rightly so) and I am merely pointing out that all the hoo ha about Melbourne was overstated because of an incredible draw.
I have never heard of a side having their first 11 in Victoria?

Interesting, you pointed out that Richmond played against Geelong in Geelong but conveniently forgot to mention the same about Melbourne. What a surprise

Have a whinge kid, Melbourne has already overtaken the tiggers even without a forwardline. Once we get our forwards developed and up and running the gap will just continue to widen, just get used to it.

 

[Demonheart]

IMO the problem at the moment for them is that in comparison to Melbourne:

Scully = Martin
Cotchin = Trengove
Riewoldt = Watts (obviously not as good atm)


Outside of that top bracket Melbourne still have Gysberts, Jurrah, Tapscott, Jones, Pettard, Frawley, Morton, Grimes, Bate etc. as youngsters with a nice blend of older guys like Green, Moloney, Davey, McDonald, Jamar, Bruce etc. (Sylvia doesnt really fit either category)

Richmond dont have that sort of quality IMO. And whilst at the moment they're travelling a bit better in terms of form, long term you still need the superior cattle no matter how good the coach is.

Good post, Richmond's top players are absolute guns, no question about it, but they lack class and depth across the park.

 

[Martin#36]

Wft ? are people blind ? .

Astbury
Conners
Nason
Foley
Collins
Dea
All look the goods so far . Barring Injury could all be A graders

Not to mention Martin Cotchin Deledio Roo jr

 

[Grockadoc]

IMO the problem at the moment for them is that in comparison to Melbourne:

Scully = Martin
Cotchin = Trengove
Riewoldt = Watts (obviously not as good atm)

There is no way in hell that Scully is on equal terms with Martin at this point in time. Scully is an accumulator. Racks up the high numbers, but really is an outside mid. Martin is inside the top 5 for clearances this year, in a struggling side, is breaking tackles of opponents who have been playing for 5+ years, and is still improving. MArtin has shown more this year than what Scully has. I expect scully to catch up in the near future be it this year or early next. They will be equal at some point, however, martin is slightly ahead. And as for teh Riewoldt comparison to Jack Watts, do not compare a pick 13 Coleman leading forward to a pansy fairy forward who was taken at pick one and still has yet to play 20 games. GTF off it dude.

 

["The Roar Is Back"]

IMO the problem at the moment for them is that in comparison to Melbourne:

Scully = Martin
Cotchin = Trengove
Riewoldt = Watts (obviously not as good atm)


Outside of that top bracket Melbourne still have Gysberts, Jurrah, Tapscott, Jones, Pettard, Frawley, Morton, Grimes, Bate etc. as youngsters with a nice blend of older guys like Green, Moloney, Davey, McDonald, Jamar, Bruce etc. (Sylvia doesnt really fit either category)

Richmond dont have that sort of quality IMO. And whilst at the moment they're travelling a bit better in terms of form, long term you still need the superior cattle no matter how good the coach is.

I'd suggest guys like Nason , Astbury , Griffiths, Graham and even Taylor might be getting overlooked a little , all I think have equalled Watts output in their first year . Whilst older players Deledio , Newman , and Foley ( despite injury ) would rate as good as any player on Melbournes list .
Put Melbournes key defenders into the Richmond side and the opposition would be cringing with envy !!
Also although he cops plenty of neative media don't underestimate having a experienced player like Cousins around can do for our players development , unfortunately Carlton are gaining similar benefit from Judd !!

 

[Grockadoc]

PTF dont forget collins, connors and edwards.