Play Nice Richmond, set to become the biggest club in Australia, now with 100K members

[Madtiger2006]

It is very hard to determine who actually has the most supports in the competition. Obviously unless a nathional survey is done no one will really know. You can look at social media as the top 2 are clearly Collingwood and Essendon updated stats as of today are;

Facebook likes;

Essendon 347 k
Collingwood 345 k

Twitter

Essendon 133 k
Collingwood 121 k

Instragram

Collingwood 153 k
Essendon 133 k

Collingwood v Essendon are virtually identical.

But in terms of engaged hard core fans who will attend games watch on tv Collingwood are the biggest when they are a top 8 side. Essendon has never outdrawn Collingwood in attendances when both are playing finals. In fact Collingwood average about 5-8,000 more per game when both are in the finals.

Richmond are clearly in my opinion are the 3rd biggest club but if all 3 were top 4 Collingwood will be 1st Richmond 2nd just in front of Essendon because of Etihad. If all 3 teams played 14 games at the mcg Collingwood would be first averaging 65,000 at the g. Richmond and Essendon would averaged 60,000.

Until a club outdrawns Collingwood when the pies are in the finals then they cannot claim as being the biggest club in the afl

We have just woken up though. 37 years in the wilderness needs a premiership to get the trust of some fans. This years crowds were moderate to what we can achieve. The finals showed what we are capable of. If we get around 15 wins we should increase crowds by 20%

 

[blaisee]

It is very hard to determine who actually has the most supports in the competition. Obviously unless a nathional survey is done no one will really know. You can look at social media as the top 2 are clearly Collingwood and Essendon updated stats as of today are;

Facebook likes;

Essendon 347 k
Collingwood 345 k

Twitter

Essendon 133 k
Collingwood 121 k

Instragram

Collingwood 153 k
Essendon 133 k

Collingwood v Essendon are virtually identical.

But in terms of engaged hard core fans who will attend games watch on tv Collingwood are the biggest when they are a top 8 side. Essendon has never outdrawn Collingwood in attendances when both are playing finals. In fact Collingwood average about 5-8,000 more per game when both are in the finals.

Richmond are clearly in my opinion are the 3rd biggest club but if all 3 were top 4 Collingwood will be 1st Richmond 2nd just in front of Essendon because of Etihad. If all 3 teams played 14 games at the mcg Collingwood would be first averaging 65,000 at the g. Richmond and Essendon would averaged 60,000.

Until a club outdrawns Collingwood when the pies are in the finals then they cannot claim as being the biggest club in the afl

I think it is really funny how you keep shifting the goal posts. Funny, sad and desperate.

Facebook , twitter, Instagram? Please, you have to be joking.

On the measure of crowds and memberships in Australia, nobody comes close to Richmond. Clear number 1 now, and the gap will just get bigger and bigger.

Get use to it.

 

[madmug]

As predicted in 2015, Richmond is now the biggest AFL club in Australia, it is mow also the biggest sporting club in Australia, period.

That is on a measure of both Bums on seats and memberships, the real raw measure of size.

This is when it starts getting fun.

So you pick the measures which best suit you. Ok. Having the most members is A measure of passion & support. Its not the ONLY measure one should take into account in a discussion of BIGGEST.

Swans are the most popular team in terms of public support. As Ive said, thats very saleable to sponsors. In terms of finances, incomes from members & corporates, a number of clubs lead the pack. The biggest clubs membership wise are very close in numbers. But to disregard the other factors is really rather 'limiting'.

 

[blaisee]

So you pick the measures which best suit you. Ok. Having the most members is A measure of passion & support. Its not the ONLY measure one should take into account in a discussion of BIGGEST.

Swans are the most popular team in terms of public support. As Ive said, thats very saleable to sponsors. In terms of finances, incomes from members & corporates, a number of clubs lead the pack. The biggest clubs membership wise are very close in numbers. But to disregard the other factors is really rather 'limiting'.

The only measure to see how important a sporting club is to see how many people are actually willing to get up off the armchairs, leave home and actually attend a game.

This is the only way to understand the scale and popularity of a club. All the rest of the measures are garbage as they can be manipulated.

Social media, is about 50% bots.
Corporate support while important, does not represent true scale and size.
Even memberships are not an ideal measure, as the hawks memberships are inflated due to playing in Tassie.
And this Essendon Etihad talk is also garbage. If they could fill the MCG every week they would, they chose to play at Etihad, and must live with the consequences.

Richmond is clear number 1 now, there is no debate and I love when I am right. !

 

[madmug]

The only measure to see how important a sporting club is to see how many people are actually willing to get up off the armchairs, leave home and actually attend a game.

This is the only way to understand the scale and popularity of a club. All the rest of the measures are garbage as they can be manipulated.

Social media, is about 50% bots.
Corporate support while important, does not represent true scale and size.
Even memberships are not an ideal measure, as the hawks memberships are inflated due to playing in Tassie.
And this Essendon Etihad talk is also garbage. If they could fill the MCG every week they would, they chose to play at Etihad, and must live with the consequences.

Richmond is clear number 1 now, there is no debate and I love when I am right. !

Im pleased your happy in your own world. Just disregard the facts to suit yourself. I know if my club had a $70mil income & in a sound financial position, I'd be happy

So 9k Hawks members in Tasmania dont count?? Clearly your figures are inflated because you play at the MCG. Same difference.

Why dont you just limit the count to Richmond memberships in Richmond? You'd have no argument then.

 

[boncer34]

I think it is really funny how you keep shifting the goal posts. Funny, sad and desperate.

Facebook , twitter, Instagram? Please, you have to be joking.

On the measure of crowds and memberships in Australia, nobody comes close to Richmond. Clear number 1 now, and the gap will just get bigger and bigger.

Get use to it.

Uh you had on average 200 people more then Essendon at your H&A games.

 

[blaisee]

Im pleased your happy in your own world. Just disregard the facts to suit yourself. I know if my club had a $70mil income & in a sound financial position, I'd be happy

So 9k Hawks members in Tasmania dont count?? Clearly your figures are inflated because you play at the MCG. Same difference.

Why dont you just limit the count to Richmond memberships in Richmond? You'd have no argument then.

Of course they count. But they had to relocate to survive. If they were big enough and popular enough they would not have had to relocate.

I am sure that if Richmond moved 4-5 games to Tassie every year we would have 20,000 Tassie members, but at what cost? The Melbourne members would never allow it, and we are way too big to do it now.

We are in a new world now, a world were the tiger has awoken, all records will be smashed to smithereens.

Sit back and relax and enjoy the show.

 

[BobbyMorri]

The only measure to see how important a sporting club is to see how many people are actually willing to get up off the armchairs, leave home and actually attend a game.

This is the only way to understand the scale and popularity of a club. All the rest of the measures are garbage as they can be manipulated.

Social media, is about 50% bots.
Corporate support while important, does not represent true scale and size.
Even memberships are not an ideal measure, as the hawks memberships are inflated due to playing in Tassie.
And this Essendon Etihad talk is also garbage. If they could fill the MCG every week they would, they chose to play at Etihad, and must live with the consequences.

Richmond is clear number 1 now, there is no debate and I love when I am right. !

Expect that is biased as well. Richmond basically plays in an unlimited stadium. If someone wants to go, they can. Essendon, WCE and to a lesser extent, Adelaide do not have that luxury. Plus WCE cant played Freo each year 6 times at a 100K stadium.

And you are talking about the biggest club in AUSTRALIA. Tas is in Australia. You cant just ignore stats if they don't suit you.

I thought this "we a big club" stuff would end once you actually had success on the field. But no, you(in particular) seems hell-bent on making up a bunch of magic rules which ends up with Richmond on top.

 

[BobbyMorri]

Of course they count. But they had to relocate to survive. If they were big enough and popular enough they would not have had to relocate.

I am sure that if Richmond moved 4-5 games to Tassie every year we would have 20,000 Tassie members, but at what cost? The Melbourne members would never allow it, and we are way too big to do it now.

We are in a new world now, a world were the tiger has awoken, all records will be smashed to smithereens.

Sit back and relax and enjoy the show.

haha haha

2 words. Karmichael Hunt.

 

[blaisee]

Uh you had on average 200 people more then Essendon at your H&A games.

Home games buddy, home games. And we won the home and away number as well, and the finals and we have the highest grand final crowd for 20 years, against an interstate club no less.

It is a Juggernaut make no mistake

 

[blaisee]

Expect that is biased as well. Richmond basically plays in an unlimited stadium. If someone wants to go, they can. Essendon, WCE and to a lesser extent, Adelaide do not have that luxury. Plus WCE cant played Freo each year 6 times at a 100K stadium.

And you are talking about the biggest club in AUSTRALIA. Tas is in Australia. You cant just ignore stats if they don't suit you.

I thought this "we a big club" stuff would end once you actually had success on the field. But no, you(in particular) seems hell-bent on making up a bunch of magic rules which ends up with Richmond on top.

No magic rules, just bums on seats, not sure why this is so controversial.

 

[BobbyMorri]

No magic rules, just bums on seats, not sure why this is so controversial.

Example: Who do you think is the biggest club. West Ham United or Chelsea.
Clippers or the Lakers

West Ham/Clippers got more bums on seats so, in your narrow thinking, it would be the them.

Someone already said that Richmond's average home attendance was helped by having home blockbusters. There are too many factors that influence attendance per game to just use that as one singular stat. Especially over 1 season. it is flawed thinking. I have mentioned the MCG/Melbourne Derbies a thousand times but once more won't hurt to say it again.

As someone said earlier, this is all a lot of fun because there is no true figure of bigness. But ignoring all other the stats for one reason or another isn't going to win your agreement.

 

[blaisee]

Example: Who do you think is the biggest club. West Ham United or Chelsea.
Clippers or the Lakers

West Ham/Clippers got more bums on seats so, in your narrow thinking, it would be the them.

Someone already said that Richmond's average home attendance was helped by having home blockbusters. There are too many factors that influence attendance per game to just use that as one singular stat. Especially over 1 season. it is flawed thinking. I have mentioned the MCG/Melbourne Derbies a thousand times but once more won't hurt to say it again.

As someone said earlier, this is all a lot of fun because there is no true figure of bigness. But ignoring all other the stats for one reason or another isn't going to win your agreement.

Not sure what the relevance is of the EPL or the NBA.

The three biggest clubs in Australia, Tigers, Pies, Bombers all have access to the same venue, the MCG, if they choose not to play there, then that is their problem ( IE Bombers and Etihad ) if anything Bombers Pies have an unfair advantage due to the monopoly of playing on the public holiday Anzac day, but good luck to them, I expect this year the Anzac Day eve match ( Rich v Minnow Melbourne ) to outdraw the Anzac Day clash, how funny will that be ?Just waiting for the excuses to come in, weather, no finals ect. can't wait for the lols

It is great to be Kings again !

 

[BobbyMorri]

Not sure what the relevance is of the EPL or the NBA.

Not sure what is relevant or ignoring my points again.

West Ham only out attended Chelsea because they have a bigger stadium. The Clippers only out attended their bigger brothers because the Lakers suck atm. I am showcasing, using REAL world examples, my point regarding stadium capacity and the seasonal flows of attendance and why using attendance, especially short-term ones, as the sole figure is flawed.

The three biggest clubs in Australia, Tigers, Pies, Bombers all have access to the same venue, the MCG, if they choose not to play there, then that is their problem ( IE Bombers and Etihad ) if anything Bombers Pies have an unfair advantage due to the monopoly of playing on the public holiday Anzac day, but good luck to them, I expect this year the Anzac Day eve match ( Rich v Minnow Melbourne ) to outdraw the Anzac Day clash, how funny will that be ?Just waiting for the excuses to come in, weather, no finals ect. can't wait for the lols

It is great to be Kings again !

lol Yes, because the Tigers dont have "unfair advantage" to dreamtime, Opening day and ANZAC Day eve.........

I wonder if you will be singing the same tune next year when WCE average 50-55K for the Homes games next season.

 

[Francis]

It is very hard to determine who actually has the most supports in the competition. Obviously unless a nathional survey is done no one will really know. You can look at social media as the top 2 are clearly Collingwood and Essendon updated stats as of today are;

Instragram

Collingwood 153 k
Essendon 133 k

Don't care much for these 'mine is bigger than yours' contests but just as an update, Richmond is no. 1 on instagram with 155k followers.

 

[blaisee]

Not sure what is relevant or ignoring my points again.

West Ham only out attended Chelsea because they have a bigger stadium. The Clippers only out attended their bigger brothers because the Lakers suck atm. I am showcasing, using REAL world examples, my point regarding stadium capacity and the seasonal flows of attendance and why using attendance, especially short-term ones, as the sole figure is flawed.



lol Yes, because the Tigers dont have "unfair advantage" to dreamtime, Opening day and ANZAC Day eve.........

I wonder if you will be singing the same tune next year when WCE average 50-55K for the Homes games next season.

As stated, Bombers Pies and Tigers all have access to same ground, therefore comparisons between West Ham and Chelsea irrelevant.

Also as stated Anzac Day is a public holiday, hence a huge free kick for the last 25 years for both participants.

Season kick off has been built by Richmond, averages 80k, thats why we got it because we fill stadiums, we do not need a public holiday to fill crowds.

Anzac Day eve is 2 years old, anyone could have had that fixture , we were just smarter, bigger and stronger

Dreamtime again, not a public holiday, stadiums are filled regardless.

Not one of these games gives the monopoly of Anzac Day, and the massive benefits and free kicks that result for the Bombers and Pies, but again good luck to them.

We will smash their crowds regardless, just like we did in 2017, but in 2018, it will be a mauling.

 

[Kwality]

Home games buddy, home games. And we won the home and away number as well, and the finals and we have the highest grand final crowd for 20 years, against an interstate club no less.

It is a Juggernaut make no mistake

How many of the 3 game members are upgrading, any $numbers?

 

[gopies1981]

As stated, Bombers Pies and Tigers all have access to same ground, therefore comparisons between West Ham and Chelsea irrelevant.

Also as stated Anzac Day is a public holiday, hence a huge free kick for the last 25 years for both participants.

Season kick off has been built by Richmond, averages 80k, thats why we got it because we fill stadiums, we do not need a public holiday to fill crowds.

Anzac Day eve is 2 years old, anyone could have had that fixture , we were just smarter, bigger and stronger

Dreamtime again, not a public holiday, stadiums are filled regardless.

Not one of these games gives the monopoly of Anzac Day, and the massive benefits and free kicks that result for the Bombers and Pies, but again good luck to them.

We will smash their crowds regardless, just like we did in 2017, but in 2018, it will be a mauling.

Lol try breaking 1,306,000 through the turnstiles in 2010 like Collingwood and then get back to me.

In the home and away season Richmond only drew 1,021,000 through the gates Collingwood has beaten that record 10 times.

Lol smashed Collingwood and Essendon crowds???? You guys in the home and away season only drew 5k more then Essendon and 18 k more then Collingwood who finished 13th and Essendon finished 7th and played 5 more games at Etihad.

If all three were in the top 4 Collingwood would be drawing the biggest crowds and Essendon or Richmond would be 2nd or 3rd

 

[Madtiger2006]

Lol try breaking 1,306,000 through the turnstiles in 2010 like Collingwood and then get back to me.

In the home and away season Richmond only drew 1,021,000 through the gates Collingwood has beaten that record 10 times.

Lol smashed Collingwood and Essendon crowds???? You guys in the home and away season only drew 5k more then Essendon and 18 k more then Collingwood who finished 13th and Essendon finished 7th and played 5 more games at Etihad.

If all three were in the top 4 Collingwood would be drawing the biggest crowds and Essendon or Richmond would be 2nd or 3rd

What you expect? You were up near the top 4 for a decade and got 1.3 mill after the premiership. We can get those figures now that we have opened the floodgates. We needed something bigger than average to open them too. I want 15 wins on the board this year and you will see 1.2 million for sure. Possibly 1.25 million. 1.3 million is a bit hard now that gws and gc are in the competition now though

 

[Frank Gallagher]

I cant wait till Richmond/Collingwood average 60K against everyone in the AFL, let alone non Victorian teams.

Richmond ONLY this year broke 50K barrier for the first time against an interstate side in the H&A season. (IIRC)

60K is a big number.

Pretty sure we've already done that in 2011.

 

[Madtiger2006]

Pretty sure we've already done that in 2011.

Yeah when your window was open. Now it’s our turn

 

[Tits_McGee]

Richmond with a Collingwood 2010 style draw and without GWS and Gold Coast in the comp would have drawn 1.3 too this year. The Pies had Blues/bombers/cats at G/hawks twice that year

People forgetting that we copped a shocking crowd pulling draw after our shit 2016. No Friday nights, game in Geelong, no return games against any of the big 4 but carlton (who had a huge 15k fans out in force for the second game against us) just lol

Also to the Pies supporter who said Pies fans celebrations in 1990 and 2010 were bigger than Richmond’s this year well you clearly weren’t on Swan st on grand final night made the pies celebrations look like a tea party.

 

[Ancient Tiger]

It is very hard to determine who actually has the most supports in the competition. Obviously unless a nathional survey is done no one will really know. You can look at social media as the top 2 are clearly Collingwood and Essendon updated stats as of today are;

Facebook likes;

Essendon 347 k
Collingwood 345 k

Twitter

Essendon 133 k
Collingwood 121 k

Instragram

Collingwood 153 k
Essendon 133 k

Collingwood v Essendon are virtually identical.

But in terms of engaged hard core fans who will attend games watch on tv Collingwood are the biggest when they are a top 8 side. Essendon has never outdrawn Collingwood in attendances when both are playing finals. In fact Collingwood average about 5-8,000 more per game when both are in the finals.

Richmond are clearly in my opinion are the 3rd biggest club but if all 3 were top 4 Collingwood will be 1st Richmond 2nd just in front of Essendon because of Etihad. If all 3 teams played 14 games at the mcg Collingwood would be first averaging 65,000 at the g. Richmond and Essendon would averaged 60,000.

Until a club outdrawns Collingwood when the pies are in the finals then they cannot claim as being the biggest club in the afl

I'm a baby boomer and don't have Facebook etc. There are many people my age that are in the same boat. Memberships are the only true indicator of popularity. If you are popular enough you will fork out the hard earned.

 

[Tits_McGee]

I'm a baby boomer and don't have Facebook etc. There are many people my age that are in the same boat. Memberships are the only true indicator of popularity. If you are popular enough you will fork out the hard earned.

Richmond now has the most instagram followers

I too do not have facebook and I’d imagine a lot of Tiger fans would be in the same boat (we do have a lot of older supporters)

The thing is we had a heap of young under 12s 2 or 3 years ago when the hawks were winning multiple flags. I think we were mentioned as being second in youth memberships to only the hawks. I’d imagine we will pickup even more kids with this flag and we will just continue to grow our already huge supporter base

 

[Ancient Tiger]

Expect that is biased as well. Richmond basically plays in an unlimited stadium. If someone wants to go, they can. Essendon, WCE and to a lesser extent, Adelaide do not have that luxury. Plus WCE cant played Freo each year 6 times at a 100K stadium.

And you are talking about the biggest club in AUSTRALIA. Tas is in Australia. You cant just ignore stats if they don't suit you.

I thought this "we a big club" stuff would end once you actually had success on the field. But no, you(in particular) seems hell-bent on making up a bunch of magic rules which ends up with Richmond on top.

How many times have Essendon actually had a lock out? They play all their potential lock outs at the MCG.