Riewoldt or Brown

[Munga]

Gives me the shits. This debate always pops up whenever Brown has a good game. Don't get me wrong, Brown is a great player, but he's gone missing quite a bit over his career. On the other hand Riewoldt has a far higher level of consistency. I was trying to think of a way to back this up this overall consistency, thought the old dream team points would be a good indicator, and they are...

............Riewoldt - Brown
Games..........184 - 186
DT Median......95 - 80
Gms>100pts....82 - 54
% > 100pts.....45 - 29

So over 180 odd matches, Riewoldt is 15 points PER GAME BETTER!! That's a massive difference and more than I thought it would be. Riewoldt nearly one in two games over 100 points, Brown not even one in three!

Timely wake up call to some people in the media ***Billy Brownless!

 

[Plugger35]

Yes the stats don't lie. Brown can be more damaging in front of goal when he is on his game but also goes missing quite a bit at times. Riewoldt is far more consistent and is almost always in our top 5 players.

I admire both players, both are champion CHFs and captains. Pretty hard to split them really, which is why all the bias here towards Brown over Riewoldt really doesn't make sense when you look at the stats.

I'd love to have a player like Brown in my team but I wouldn't swap him for Riewoldt. I prefer Riewoldt's consistency over Brown's potential to be more damaging in front of goal.

 

[alfy!]

You compared DT points? Stopped reading when i saw that. Hilarious.

 

[Knife Wrench]

wow...

 

[Wooljay]

Christ, why are Saints supporters so desperate to "prove" that Riewoldt is supposedly better than Brown? Why can't you just be happy you have one of the best CHFs of this generation of footballers and call it a day?

You're embarassing yourselves.

 

[didak04]

Does this really need another thread?

 

[BONG RIPS MKII]

dt points?

facepalm.jpg

at least use sc points, it's slightly less idiotic

also brown>riewoldt

 

[Adelaide Hawk]

Gives me the shits. This debate always pops up whenever Brown has a good game.

And yet you decide to start it up again?

Oh ... and FYI .... Brown is better.

 

[Munga]

I don't see anyone else trying to justify the Riewoldt/Brown argument.
People who say Brown>Riewoldt, well back it up with something ffs.

 

[Wooljay]

I don't see anyone else trying to justify the Riewoldt/Brown argument.
People who say Brown>Riewoldt, well back it up with something ffs.

Have a look at every one out of three threads made since Thursday night mate. Seriously, it's getting so old, just walk away.

 

[BONG RIPS MKII]

how about goals and contested marks?

how about premierships?

 

[coldpieswarmbeer]

lol, dreamteam points. hang your hats on that

by the way,

brown>reiwoldt.

 

[Big Nasty]

I simply cannot believe the both of these players are suddenly being compared to Wayne Carey as the greatest ever CHF. Especially after only the first two rounds of footy.

To answer the OP's question though... I'm gonna have to say Brown, as he has much more impact on a game than Riewoldt.

 

[Art Vandelay]

The power bracelet that Riewoldt wears to improve his core strength by up to 500 % tips the scales in his favor...

 

[crownie]

Gives me the shits. This debate always pops up whenever Brown has a good game. Don't get me wrong, Brown is a great player, but he's gone missing quite a bit over his career. On the other hand Riewoldt has a far higher level of consistency.

yep only bad players get injured

both great players however both have different 'morals' on how they go about it.

one doesnt stage for freekicks (which people appreciate), while the other drops the second someone touches him (which people dont appreciate)

 

[stui magpie]

Riewoldt has the physical presence of a blancmange. On that score alone, Brown is way in front.

 

[Plugger35]

Riewoldt has the physical presence of a blancmange. On that score alone, Brown is way in front.

He still manages to tear your team apart every time he plays against you. BOG in our last two finals against Collingwood.

 

[OnceWeWereKings]

I don't see anyone else trying to justify the Riewoldt/Brown argument.
People who say Brown>Riewoldt, well back it up with something ffs.

There called premierships, Brown has three of them.

 

[Dojo]

Gives me the shits. This debate always pops up whenever Brown has a good game. Don't get me wrong, Brown is a great player, but he's gone missing quite a bit over his career. On the other hand Riewoldt has a far higher level of consistency. I was trying to think of a way to back this up this overall consistency, thought the old dream team points would be a good indicator, and they are...

............Riewoldt - Brown
Games..........184 - 186
DT Median......95 - 80
Gms>100pts....82 - 54
% > 100pts.....45 - 29

So over 180 odd matches, Riewoldt is 15 points PER GAME BETTER!! That's a massive difference and more than I thought it would be. Riewoldt nearly one in two games over 100 points, Brown not even one in three!

Timely wake up call to some people in the media ***Billy Brownless!

Who cares? They're both guns. We're more than happy to have Nick and I'm sure Lions supporters are more than happy to have Brown.

 

[loki04]

No contest Brown easy.

 

[The Passenger]

pffffftttt dream team points....

at least DNine used super coach points to justify his argument
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=689409

 

[bradrowe#32]

He still manages to tear your team apart every time he plays against you. BOG in our last two finals against Collingwood.

I bet you were sitting at your computer salivating at the thought of a negative reply from a Collingwood so you could whip out that little "chestnut."

Regardless, these types of debates are obviously very subjective and stats only form part of the overall debate. The overall notion of comparing players is pretty lame.

 

[Byron_Clanger]

brown>reiwoldt

 

[salty parish]

brown is not a sook...................

 

[nobbyiscool]

i won't say anything more about the idiocy of comparing dream team points...


the fact is that it's pointless for st kilda fans to constantly try and prove that reiwoldt is better when i would guess that at least 80% of fans (and thats being generous) of the other 14 clubs would take brown every day of the week ahead of reiwoldt.

no one is saying that reiwoldt is a hack. the guy is in the top 5 players in the comp.

but brown is a leader. reiwoldt is not.

brown has incredible presence because he will beat you with class and power, and if he doesn't then he might kill you. reiwoldt has equal class, but significantly less power, and if he can't beat u with class and power then he will dive, earn a soft free kick, and further lose the respect of the footy watching community.

i would quite comfortably have brown kick at goals for my life, from anywhere in or around the 50. there are at least 100 players in the AFL that i would choose before reiwoldt in a dire situation.

brown has 3 premierships and led the lions to at least 2 of those premierships. reiwoldt "leads" a team of high draft picks and has yet to get the job done.

i'd take either of them in my team in a heartbeat (everyone would) - but if i only got one? brown, every single day of the week.