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DynamoUltra said:
I'm surprised Birchall hasn't been mentioned. He's been pretty bloody good, if you ask me.
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Been a lot better than Bartram :rolleyes:
 
lidsyyy3 said:
celtic pride. you have no pride after that ridiculous comment. u are a tool
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Have a whinge and stop being so subjective. He is posting an opinon and I doubt he is trying to stir any of you up.
 
lidsyyy3 said:
celtic pride. you have no pride after that ridiculous comment. u are a tool
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Gee whiz ...
I think that Shaw and Peace (and maybe Murphy) will actually poll more votes then Raines come season's end.
They have had better season's then Raines from my viewpoint, so how am I a tool for that comment ?
 

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celtic_pride said:
Gee whiz ...
I think that Shaw and Peace (and maybe Murphy) will actually poll more votes then Raines come season's end.
They have had better season's then Raines from my viewpoint, so how am I a tool for that comment ?
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Because he disagrees with you :rolleyes:
 
Not sure if Murph has done enough but pierce has been amazing. A bit inconsistent but nonetheless he has dominated.
 
HeLMie said:
Who is to know who will win but, i guess it comes down to how many biased football personalities ar eont he board to give votes. Who cna forget Kevin Bartlett last year,
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That was shocking, is he still on the panel? Hope not.
 
While raines, pearce etc are very very good, murph was excellent and proceeded all expectations. got alot of the ball, used it very well (im sure everyone can say they have heard a commentator say that "Brendon Fevola is going to love playing with Marc Murphy") and was really a class above before he went down. Im not sure how they will vote but Murph is the best young player in the comp in the criteria.
 
It is Shaw's 3rd year btw, second year since his debut.

1. H. Shaw
2. D. Pearce
3. A. Raines
4. M. Murphy
5. D. Polo

6. D. Thomas
7. T. Chaplin
8. M. Rischitelli
9. C. Bartram
10. M. Bate

11. M. Rosa
12. N. Foley
13. B. Symes
14. C. Stiller
15. G. Birchall

16. M. Moody
17. A. Swallow
18. J. Surjan
19. C. Young

My ranking of the players so far. Based on their impact in 2006.
 
jabso said:
It is Shaw's 3rd year btw, second year since his debut.

1. H. Shaw
2. D. Pearce
3. A. Raines
4. M. Murphy
5. D. Polo

6. D. Thomas
7. T. Chaplin
8. M. Rischitelli
9. C. Bartram
10. M. Bate

11. M. Rosa
12. N. Foley
13. B. Symes
14. C. Stiller
15. G. Birchall

16. M. Moody
17. A. Swallow
18. J. Surjan
19. C. Young

My ranking of the players so far. Based on their impact in 2006.
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You don't rate Bate highly enough. Although he's missed games hi impact when playing would rank him 3-5. Take the time to watch him play, he's very good.
 
yulong said:
You don't rate Bate highly enough. Although he's missed games hi impact when playing would rank him 3-5. Take the time to watch him play, he's very good.
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I rate him in the top 5 as far as potential goes (i.e. who is most likely to become a great player) but he hasn't had a better year than these players. Bartram has been more important to you guys as a tagger.
 
jabso said:
It is Shaw's 3rd year btw, second year since his debut.

1. H. Shaw
2. D. Pearce
3. A. Raines
4. M. Murphy
5. D. Polo

My ranking of the players so far. Based on their impact in 2006.
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Honestly do you think Heath Shaw 'impacts' a game. He mops up around the back without an opponent, sure he is clearly noticeable on the field, but yes i Bate actually impacts on the game. Shaw mearly is a cog in the system, even if he is a highly polished one. Even Polo impacts a game far greater then Shaw, shutting down key players often effecting results of games.
 

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ptrain8 said:
Honestly do you think Heath Shaw 'impacts' a game. He mops up around the back without an opponent, sure he is clearly noticeable on the field, but yes i Bate actually impacts on the game. Shaw mearly is a cog in the system, even if he is a highly polished one. Even Polo impacts a game far greater then Shaw, shutting down key players often effecting results of games.
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Does mopping up and giving drive off half back affect games?
He is an important cog to our side.
Shaw always plays on his oponent and his oponent rarely has an impact. He is fantastic overhead and one on one.

Oh but wait Raines played on Riccutio and beat him. Has that been metioned enough?
 
jabso said:
Does mopping up and giving drive off half back affect games?
He is an important cog to our side.
Shaw always plays on his oponent and his oponent rarely has an impact. He is fantastic overhead and one on one.

Oh but wait Raines played on Riccutio and beat him. Has that been metioned enough?
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All im saying is that Shaw takes lesser players to Raines, and they both give drive. Id take Raines, as he is harder at the footy and is more responsible defensively. I know i probably rant on about shaw, but i think one of Murph Pearce and Raines should be the eventual winner as they are less experienced and better players.
 
Saw Pearce play at the dome agaists the Kangaroos a few weeks back (remember that blockbuster!)
He will be a future champ.... even future brownlow if i keeps up what he is doing. Very polished player already. Even has captain written on his forehead. Even if he dosn't get rising star I reckon he has a bright future.
PS: I don't barrack for Port Either ...was just impressed with his work ethic.
 
ptrain8 said:
All im saying is that Shaw takes lesser players to Raines, and they both give drive. Id take Raines, as he is harder at the footy and is more responsible defensively. I know i probably rant on about shaw, but i think one of Murph Pearce and Raines should be the eventual winner as they are less experienced and better players.
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There is hardly anything between the two players. Raines I suppose plays on better players but Shaw also takes dangerous players but not necesarily always the best small forward. Shaw IMO is more damaging in terms of #s of possesions and his run and precise delivery. Shaw is very hard at it also, both in terms of bursting through packs and getting the hard ball off the deck.

I don't think inexperience and potential should be taken into consideration (well maybe a bit of potential) but it will be interesting to see how they judge it.
 
Pearce has come back in this one, somehow i doubt he will win the real thing though.

He isnt really being talked about in the same breath as Raines, Shaw, Murphy, Bartram and Thomas are.
 
Should be Matthew Bate

Has averaged 17 possies per game, and has contibuted greatly in Melbournes wins

His game on Queens Birthday in front of 70,000 was a classic


Much better player than Thomas, Shaw, Pearce, Murphy etc..
 
Trav 20 said:
Bate should finish on 13 games for the year, the same as Murphy. As the comparison below indicates, he sits well in this company.

His lack of games will count against him.


http://www.finalsiren.com/PlayerCompare.asp?SeasonID=2006&SelectedPlayers=1620,1422,1605,1619,1601,1639,1621,1631,&Compare=Go&Sort=AverageRating%20Desc
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17.3 possies per game

leade all rising stars in tackles per game, with over 3 per contest

Equalo leader in goals per game among leading candidates

Why the hell isnt Matthew Bate being talked up by the media? Oops, he doesnt play for Collingwood, Port or Carlton
 
Yze_Class said:
Pearce has come back in this one, somehow i doubt he will win the real thing though.

He isnt really being talked about in the same breath as Raines, Shaw, Murphy, Bartram and Thomas are.
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That's because he plays for Port
 

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