Riverina FL - Off Season News Part 2

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There is a few things playing on my mind in regards to the whole situation.

Firstly, the relegation should be changed to the two grand finalists and two bottom rfl every year, not just one as it is going to be set up.

Secondly, Collingullie should be in the ffl next year and have a chance to play against better opposition in east wagga and prove themselves for another year - look at what happened to Wagga Tigers, they jumped ship for the brighter lights sooner then they should and ended up back in the same place.

Thirdly, Nrth Wagga are the only team certain to be relegated if they only go for the bottom to be be dropped to the ffl to even it out. East Wagga are only one win behind Narrandera and have a better percentage then the Eagles and did recently bet them by nearly 10 goals.
If, Griffith win that and East can snare a win over Ganmain, Turvey or Leeton which they are pushing for then the could jump above Narrandera dropping them to second last.

Fourthly, tied in with the third point - Narrandera are carrying on it will "kill" them.
In the situation that they finish second last this year they will have to do it, they have no choice.
On that as well, they stay in the rfl for the time being and they get the wooden spoon the following season - are they going to carry on like they are at the moment or would they bite the bullet as the have agreed to it and not up to standard.

Lastly, all games should be played on a Saturday. Teams like Turvey need to wake up and play Saturday only and Griffith, well Sunday at games at Griffith should be made illegal - that is the biggest joke of the whole rfl.


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Crackers.
 
Need to revisit the whole idea. Simply merge the two leagues and put the onus on the clubs to do what they need to do to be competitive. This would produce a 16 team league. The league doesn't need to force clubs to merge, but common-sense would tell Rivcoll to seek out a merger with North Wagga, which would benefit both clubs. Marrar may decide to go it alone but should probably follow suit and merge with coolamon. Down to 14 teams. Jets & Temora can decide if they want to spend the dollars to be competitive, or better still look to enter the Northern riverina league. This would only strengthen that league and both clubs could survive without having to recruit too widely from outside of their areas. There it is - a twelve team league with all clubs in a fairly strong, healthy position going into the future, rather than the uncertainty that will be the case if the current scenario goes ahead.
 
There is a few things playing on my mind in regards to the whole situation.

Firstly, the relegation should be changed to the two grand finalists and two bottom rfl every year, not just one as it is going to be set up.

Secondly, Collingullie should be in the ffl next year and have a chance to play against better opposition in east wagga and prove themselves for another year - look at what happened to Wagga Tigers, they jumped ship for the brighter lights sooner then they should and ended up back in the same place.

Thirdly, Nrth Wagga are the only team certain to be relegated if they only go for the bottom to be be dropped to the ffl to even it out. East Wagga are only one win behind Narrandera and have a better percentage then the Eagles and did recently bet them by nearly 10 goals.
If, Griffith win that and East can snare a win over Ganmain, Turvey or Leeton which they are pushing for then the could jump above Narrandera dropping them to second last.

Fourthly, tied in with the third point - Narrandera are carrying on it will "kill" them.
In the situation that they finish second last this year they will have to do it, they have no choice.
On that as well, they stay in the rfl for the time being and they get the wooden spoon the following season - are they going to carry on like they are at the moment or would they bite the bullet as the have agreed to it and not up to standard.

Lastly, all games should be played on a Saturday. Teams like Turvey need to wake up and play Saturday only and Griffith, well Sunday at games at Griffith should be made illegal - that is the biggest joke of the whole rfl.

Some good points here Crackers, but I'd just thought i'd add some thought to some points above that I've highlighted.

Why do you think there should be two teams relegated and promoted? I personally think there should only be one each way, there is only eight teams in each competition (unlike 20 in English Premier League) and changing two in each competition is a bit drastic. One is enough i think.

Although a bit similar, you would have to agree Piston and Eastlakes that the Wagga Tigers situation was a bit different? Tigers expected they would get more support from talented players elsewhere in the Riverina community to prop up their team (with players such as yourself Eastlakes), in order to become a side good enough to play in ACTAFL. Collingullie already have the list and talent to be a very competitive side in the RFL and importantly don't have to travel out of their local area to play. They would regain N. Mortimer, S. Gow and others who went elsewhere looking for a challenge. I guess the question remains if they join the RFL, who will they lose? Geppart, C. Hamblin and others to home RFL clubs and those wanting to play Saturday football. But if Gullie went to the RFL and could somehow keep all these players, we would all agree they would be a very competitive side.

I don't agree entirely that all games should be on a Saturday. Clubs like Ganmain and Coolamon have to keep their showcase games on a Sunday. These two clubs draw the best crowds at home games in the league on Sundays because it is a day out for their community. People work on Saturdays and can't make it to the game.
 

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Need to revisit the whole idea. Simply merge the two leagues and put the onus on the clubs to do what they need to do to be competitive. This would produce a 16 team league. The league doesn't need to force clubs to merge, but common-sense would tell Rivcoll to seek out a merger with North Wagga, which would benefit both clubs. Marrar may decide to go it alone but should probably follow suit and merge with coolamon. Down to 14 teams. Jets & Temora can decide if they want to spend the dollars to be competitive, or better still look to enter the Northern riverina league. This would only strengthen that league and both clubs could survive without having to recruit too widely from outside of their areas. There it is - a twelve team league with all clubs in a fairly strong, healthy position going into the future, rather than the uncertainty that will be the case if the current scenario goes ahead.

Thats got to be the biggest load of bulls*it i've read. It would be the quickest way to kill footy around here
 
Some good points here Crackers, but I'd just thought i'd add some thought to some points above that I've highlighted.

Why do you think there should be two teams relegated and promoted? I personally think there should only be one each way, there is only eight teams in each competition (unlike 20 in English Premier League) and changing two in each competition is a bit drastic. One is enough i think.

Although a bit similar, you would have to agree Piston and Eastlakes that the Wagga Tigers situation was a bit different? Tigers expected they would get more support from talented players elsewhere in the Riverina community to prop up their team (with players such as yourself Eastlakes), in order to become a side good enough to play in ACTAFL. Collingullie already have the list and talent to be a very competitive side in the RFL and importantly don't have to travel out of their local area to play. They would regain N. Mortimer, S. Gow and others who went elsewhere looking for a challenge. I guess the question remains if they join the RFL, who will they lose? Geppart, C. Hamblin and others to home RFL clubs and those wanting to play Saturday football. But if Gullie went to the RFL and could somehow keep all these players, we would all agree they would be a very competitive side.

I don't agree entirely that all games should be on a Saturday. Clubs like Ganmain and Coolamon have to keep their showcase games on a Sunday. These two clubs draw the best crowds at home games in the league on Sundays because it is a day out for their community. People work on Saturdays and can't make it to the game.

Can i just say your in alot of trouble if you think mortimer and shane gow are going to make a big differemce to gully being competitive. Both would be just average players at best in the rfl and thats putting it politely.
 
RFL a
1 -wagga tigers
2- turvey park
3- nrth wagga
4 - east wagga
5 - rivcoll
6 - marrar
7 - the rock
8 - mango

RFL b
1 - griffith
2 - letton
3 - narrandera
4 - temora
5 - nrthn jet
6 - collingullie
7 - coolamon
8 - ganmain


The RFL "a" and "b" are just what I put them as, not saying one league is stronger or better as they are not, just to divide them up.

This way still have all of the rivalries which occur and teams close by - coolamon vs ganmain, griff/leeton & narra all close to continue the hate.
Turvey tigers continues, the rock and mango (from years ago) and so on.

Come finals time...very very simple way of doing it and not have two different "comps" or "finals".
Simple as this...

Im using these teams as an example.
Turvey = minor premiers
Tigers = runner up
East Wa = third

turvey get a week off - tigers vs east wagg, loser eliminated.
winner of tigs/east play turv for a spot in the RFL grandfinal - loser eliminated.

Winner of it plays the winner from the other division under the same process.

Come grand final day have the two best teams playing off from both comps and havn't played each other all year until the big day!!

Whats everyone thoughts on this? I have to say that I think is a pretty good idea and what should be put in place.

Crackers.
 
Can i just say your in alot of trouble if you think mortimer and shane gow are going to make a big differemce to gully being competitive. Both would be just average players at best in the rfl and thats putting it politely.

It's obvious Puttputt that you didn't read my post properly. I'm very positive that if you read my post, you will not find anywhere that I said that these two players would 'make a big difference' to Gullie being competitive. I think I clearly said they would already be competitive with the side they have got. The point i was trying to make however, was that players such as those I mentioned, (I'm sure there is more who might come back, but I just used those two as an example) would compliment the side they have already got, or make up for those players who might leave.
On another point, how many games have you seen Ned Mortimer play? I'm guessing not many? He's not bad for a guy playing on one leg.
 
RFL a
1 -wagga tigers
2- turvey park
3- nrth wagga
4 - east wagga
5 - rivcoll
6 - marrar
7 - the rock
8 - mango

RFL b
1 - griffith
2 - letton
3 - narrandera
4 - temora
5 - nrthn jet
6 - collingullie
7 - coolamon
8 - ganmain


The RFL "a" and "b" are just what I put them as, not saying one league is stronger or better as they are not, just to divide them up.

This way still have all of the rivalries which occur and teams close by - coolamon vs ganmain, griff/leeton & narra all close to continue the hate.
Turvey tigers continues, the rock and mango (from years ago) and so on.

Come finals time...very very simple way of doing it and not have two different "comps" or "finals".
Simple as this...

Im using these teams as an example.
Turvey = minor premiers
Tigers = runner up
East Wa = third

turvey get a week off - tigers vs east wagg, loser eliminated.
winner of tigs/east play turv for a spot in the RFL grandfinal - loser eliminated.

Winner of it plays the winner from the other division under the same process.

Come grand final day have the two best teams playing off from both comps and havn't played each other all year until the big day!!

Whats everyone thoughts on this? I have to say that I think is a pretty good idea and what should be put in place.

Crackers.

Not a big fan of it to be honest. I like the rivalry side of it. But this system basically gives the Wagga RFL sides, Tigers and Turvey an armchair ride into the finals.

To be honest I think the whole hemisphere idea is ordinary. It didn't last long in SIRU, surely the AFL won't be naive enough to repeat history. People might say it works in NFL and NHL, but in those competitions everyone plays everybody in the home-and-away season anyway.

I believe the promotion-relegation model, which is what the majority of clubs voted for, is the most fair. The RFL is currently working well. Prune off the deadwood from the bottom of the ladder and it makes it even better.
 
Not a big fan of it to be honest. I like the rivalry side of it. But this system basically gives the Wagga RFL sides, Tigers and Turvey an armchair ride into the finals.

To be honest I think the whole hemisphere idea is ordinary. It didn't last long in SIRU, surely the AFL won't be naive enough to repeat history. People might say it works in NFL and NHL, but in those competitions everyone plays everybody in the home-and-away season anyway.

I believe the promotion-relegation model, which is what the majority of clubs voted for, is the most fair. The RFL is currently working well. Prune off the deadwood from the bottom of the ladder and it makes it even better.

Did anyone hear what came out of the meeting at HQ last night??
 
RFL a
1 -wagga tigers
2- turvey park
3- nrth wagga
4 - east wagga
5 - rivcoll
6 - marrar
7 - the rock
8 - mango

RFL b
1 - griffith
2 - letton
3 - narrandera
4 - temora
5 - nrthn jet
6 - collingullie
7 - coolamon
8 - ganmain
I have favoured conferences all along, so I like the idea, but call them eastern-western.
But failing this, I think Third Man's idea of merging the two leagues and seeing if the Jets and Temora want to go to the Nthn Riverina League deserves serious consideration.
 
how about this
gullie piss off and start being what they are, a farrer league club.
i like everyone not associated with colingullie trashmont kapooka demons (farrer) football club hope tryc fagpies or temora dragons or marrar bombers or even rivcoll "we are worse then north wagga sinners (just look at dick carey allegations)" bushpigs win the farrer final this year or next year weneva that chophead buchanan is making it, altho we all kno gayry is just a puppet being controlled by the selfish shame lemon.
 
RFL a
1 -wagga tigers
2- turvey park
3- nrth wagga
4 - east wagga
5 - rivcoll
6 - marrar
7 - the rock
8 - mango

RFL b
1 - griffith
2 - letton
3 - narrandera
4 - temora
5 - nrthn jet
6 - collingullie
7 - coolamon
8 - ganmain
I have favoured conferences all along, so I like the idea, but call them eastern-western.
But failing this, I think Third Man's idea of merging the two leagues and seeing if the Jets and Temora want to go to the Nthn Riverina League deserves serious consideration.

Thankyou! My point is, if a Griffith is relegated, this year or in the future, that will almost certainly be the finish of the club. Narrandera is in only a slightly stronger position. Imagine playing for Griffith and having to drive through Leeton and Narrandera every second week to get to away games. Blokes won't do it. Then we are back to seven teams in div 2, no better off than we are now.

Mergers aren't the end of the world. Just ask anyone at GGGM. Especially for Rivcoll, which exists primarily to give blokes who attend uni a place to have a run. North Wagga are trying hard, merging with Rivcoll would give them another avenue for recruiting players. As for Marrer & Coolamon, in 5 years time everyone would be asking what all the fuss was about, as they are geographically close and many players travel from wagga anyway. Would be the catalyst for a fairly strong club.

As I mentioned before, NRFL would benefit from having Jets & temora. Would be a good, social country footy league with these two clubs competing against the likes of W/wyalong, Barellan, Tulli, Hillston etc.
 
I didnt ask you why Gullie think they should be in the RFL, I want you to tell me your theory on why the AFL NSW rushed the Gullie in against the Vote. You agree that the shouldnt be in there along with 99% of everyone else, so how did they do it then.


terrible facts on this site!

its a joke that anyone thinks shane lennon is influencing the outcome! and gullie were told that they would be put into the rfl in2010 by the appeals board if nothing changed! so quiet clearly the afl is getting productive by coming up with a solution that can best suit all clubs "albeit being soft and a bandaid solution as what ever the afl comes up with will not still be in place in 2012 or 13 ill have a grand with anyone on that! and the rock will not go to hume league as it will rip the heart out of there junior cub!!

athough collungullie's main excuse is player depature! if they play farrer league they will lose certain players! contracted out of town players!
different situation if they were in the same boat as say a "leeton" who have devoloped juniors from a premiership 16's and 18's into a team that played in a grand final "say they then go on to win two premierships!
if collungullie did this is the farrer league it would be more of a ground to stand on then they have now!! close the cheque book develop their junior base which is not upto scratch at the moment!!!!
 

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I can't get over the fact that Gullie are still carrying on that they haven't got their way. they have just changed two league stuctures and possibly ruined the clubs going down to the Farrer but they are still not happy because they think they should get a free ride into the RFL. What a selfish bunch of w***ers!

Their argument is that they will lose a lot of players if they are in the Farrer League next year... Do they think it will be any different for Nth Wagga and Eastern Hawks?
 
I can't get over the fact that Gullie are still carrying on that they haven't got their way. they have just changed two league stuctures and possibly ruined the clubs going down to the Farrer but they are still not happy because they think they should get a free ride into the RFL. What a selfish bunch of w***ers!

Their argument is that they will lose a lot of players if they are in the Farrer League next year... Do they think it will be any different for Nth Wagga and Eastern Hawks?

Dont forget what would happen if the following happens:

Griffith and Turvey Park both beat Narrandera
and
EasternHawks beat either Turvey Park or Leeton

That then puts Narrandera in the bottom two, to go back to Farrer
 
Dont forget what would happen if the following happens:

Griffith and Turvey Park both beat Narrandera
and
EasternHawks beat either Turvey Park or Leeton

That then puts Narrandera in the bottom two, to go back to Farrer
On todays paper article, it sounds like the 10 clubs are now saying they dont care what the Gully wants no one's going any where.
 
This article was in the Area News on Monday. What was the result of the meeting? Obviously RFL clubs support the previous motion of two clubs to be relegated and no promotion of any FFL team for 2010. If the Swans were relegated that would place the future of AFL in the second largest city in the Riverina in doubt - who would be responsible for that?

Leagues debated tonight
SCOTT HAZELWOOD
10/08/2009 12:00:00
Australian football

IN A further twist to the future landscape of AFL in the Riverina, the ruling body has again thrown it's controversial city-country proposal into the mix for tonight's Riverina Football League delegates meeting in Narrandera.

The "AFL Riverina" proposal was panned by all clubs when it was announced as the first option for the future of the game, but now the review committee in charge of deciding the final outcome, says it has received renewed support for the original idea.

The plan would see the Griffith Swans join Ganmain-Grong Grong-Matong, Leeton-Whitton, Narrandera, Marrar, Northern Jets and Temora in the Country division.

The other two plans that are up for debate are the promotion-relegation system, beginning at either the end of the 2009 season or at the end of 2010.

After the Swans' loss today, the lesser of two evils would be the AFL Riverina competition which would mean there is not as much pressure on the first grade side to win this coming round against Narrandera.
 
The loss of players would affect all clubs not just CAK - but CAK would lose all their paid imports which make up the majority of the side anyway.

Who says the money may not run out at Gullie and the players leave anyway. Their juniors are struggling and in my opinion that is where the future of the club lies. They need to have the correct and a sustainable structure in place before they can be considered to be put in the RFL. One premiership is great but it needs to be sustainable success over a longer period.
 
RFL a
1 -wagga tigers
2- turvey park
3- nrth wagga
4 - east wagga
5 - rivcoll
6 - marrar
7 - the rock
8 - mango

RFL b
1 - griffith
2 - letton
3 - narrandera
4 - temora
5 - nrthn jet
6 - collingullie
7 - coolamon
8 - ganmain


Thankyou! My point is, if a Griffith is relegated, this year or in the future, that will almost certainly be the finish of the club. Narrandera is in only a slightly stronger position. Imagine playing for Griffith and having to drive through Leeton and Narrandera every second week to get to away games. Blokes won't do it. Then we are back to seven teams in div 2, no better off than we are now.

Mergers aren't the end of the world. Just ask anyone at GGGM. Especially for Rivcoll, which exists primarily to give blokes who attend uni a place to have a run. North Wagga are trying hard, merging with Rivcoll would give them another avenue for recruiting players. As for Marrer & Coolamon, in 5 years time everyone would be asking what all the fuss was about, as they are geographically close and many players travel from wagga anyway. Would be the catalyst for a fairly strong club.

As I mentioned before, NRFL would benefit from having Jets & temora. Would be a good, social country footy league with these two clubs competing against the likes of W/wyalong, Barellan, Tulli, Hillston etc.
You have no idea. Mergers of the above mentioned clubs will mean more people not playing footy. IE Rivcoll and Nth Wagga Both clubs are fulfilling their commitments on the field number wise, and Rivcoll have up to six or eight missing out on a game, not sure about NTh Wagga but know they have good numbers. So if they merge then there would be at least 40 players miss out on a game. The same would happen if Marrar and Coolamon merged, would be worse as both clubs have blokes missing out on a game. Not to mention the NETBALL. So then you have a minimum of 80 players not playin footy that would help!! Yes mergers will make stronger clubs, however the clubs mentioned have all fought hard to survive and are fullfilling their commitments so they are entitled to remain in their own right afterall to them WINNING IS NOT EVERYTHING. AS for Jets and Temora they are both also fulfilling commitments so why should they be shipped off to the NRFL as I know for a fact that most Jets and Temora players (who are ex juniors) are Wagga based, because they have to be for work, and going to Northern riverina is not an option for them travel wise. Same for their NETBALL.Have a think about it before you go solving the problems of the world.:mad:
 
You have no idea. Mergers of the above mentioned clubs will mean more people not playing footy. IE Rivcoll and Nth Wagga Both clubs are fulfilling their commitments on the field number wise, and Rivcoll have up to six or eight missing out on a game, not sure about NTh Wagga but know they have good numbers. So if they merge then there would be at least 40 players miss out on a game. The same would happen if Marrar and Coolamon merged, would be worse as both clubs have blokes missing out on a game. Not to mention the NETBALL. So then you have a minimum of 80 players not playin footy that would help!! Yes mergers will make stronger clubs, however the clubs mentioned have all fought hard to survive and are fullfilling their commitments so they are entitled to remain in their own right afterall to them WINNING IS NOT EVERYTHING. AS for Jets and Temora they are both also fulfilling commitments so why should they be shipped off to the NRFL as I know for a fact that most Jets and Temora players (who are ex juniors) are Wagga based, because they have to be for work, and going to Northern riverina is not an option for them travel wise. Same for their NETBALL.Have a think about it before you go solving the problems of the world.:mad:

Here Here!!

Spot on Phantom.

Griffith Football Club have every right to keep their identity, why can't Marrar Football Club, North Wagga Football Club, Temora Football Club and Rivcoll Football Club keep theirs?

What you 'hemisphere' believers don't take into account is other factors. If the comp splits into two in the halfway region, how are clubs supposed to plan their year? Clubs need a draw at the start of the year so they can plan social functions (which is essential for the livelihood of the country clubs) and catering for home games, plus many other factors. Or, if you combine the two leagues into one finals system, the strong Wagga teams such as Turvey, Tigers or Mango have a huge advantage in getting to the finals compared to the four (maybe even 6) strong teams in the 'Country' Division. Now that is unfair!

If an RFL club cannot survive going back into the Farrer League, because they didn't perform, well i think that puts into question the 'strength' of that club. If a club wants to deserve to be in the RFL, then prove it by winning the FFL premiership, come back a year later.

What is unfair about categorising clubs on objective performance?
 
terrible facts on this site!

its a joke that anyone thinks shane lennon is influencing the outcome! and gullie were told that they would be put into the rfl in2010 by the appeals board if nothing changed! so quiet clearly the afl is getting productive by coming up with a solution that can best suit all clubs "albeit being soft and a bandaid solution as what ever the afl comes up with will not still be in place in 2012 or 13 ill have a grand with anyone on that! and the rock will not go to hume league as it will rip the heart out of there junior cub!!

athough collungullie's main excuse is player depature! if they play farrer league they will lose certain players! contracted out of town players!
different situation if they were in the same boat as say a "leeton" who have devoloped juniors from a premiership 16's and 18's into a team that played in a grand final "say they then go on to win two premierships!
if collungullie did this is the farrer league it would be more of a ground to stand on then they have now!! close the cheque book develop their junior base which is not upto scratch at the moment!!!!

Have you been to a Hume League game? The family friendly atmosphere in this competition would allow The Rock juniors to flourish. I think you'll find actually the Hume League knocked back The Rock unamimously.

I agree also that Gullie should develop their juniors. But it's a bit rich coming from your club. Although it is at an all time level, how many Wagga Tigers juniors are in your first grade side...? Hmm you heard about rocks in glass houses?
 
You have no idea. Mergers of the above mentioned clubs will mean more people not playing footy. IE Rivcoll and Nth Wagga Both clubs are fulfilling their commitments on the field number wise, and Rivcoll have up to six or eight missing out on a game, not sure about NTh Wagga but know they have good numbers. So if they merge then there would be at least 40 players miss out on a game. The same would happen if Marrar and Coolamon merged, would be worse as both clubs have blokes missing out on a game. Not to mention the NETBALL. So then you have a minimum of 80 players not playin footy that would help!! Yes mergers will make stronger clubs, however the clubs mentioned have all fought hard to survive and are fullfilling their commitments so they are entitled to remain in their own right afterall to them WINNING IS NOT EVERYTHING. AS for Jets and Temora they are both also fulfilling commitments so why should they be shipped off to the NRFL as I know for a fact that most Jets and Temora players (who are ex juniors) are Wagga based, because they have to be for work, and going to Northern riverina is not an option for them travel wise. Same for their NETBALL.Have a think about it before you go solving the problems of the world.:mad:

If you read my original post it did say that no clubs should be forced to merge. Just merge the two leagues. Under the city/country proposal Rivcoll will be playing the likes of Tigers anyway. Lucky for them, winning isn't everything.

On the other hand, like several posters have already mentioned, Gullie could just piss off and leave everyone alone.
 
You have no idea. Mergers of the above mentioned clubs will mean more people not playing footy. IE Rivcoll and Nth Wagga Both clubs are fulfilling their commitments on the field number wise, and Rivcoll have up to six or eight missing out on a game, not sure about NTh Wagga but know they have good numbers. So if they merge then there would be at least 40 players miss out on a game. The same would happen if Marrar and Coolamon merged, would be worse as both clubs have blokes missing out on a game. Not to mention the NETBALL. So then you have a minimum of 80 players not playin footy that would help!! Yes mergers will make stronger clubs, however the clubs mentioned have all fought hard to survive and are fullfilling their commitments so they are entitled to remain in their own right afterall to them WINNING IS NOT EVERYTHING. AS for Jets and Temora they are both also fulfilling commitments so why should they be shipped off to the NRFL as I know for a fact that most Jets and Temora players (who are ex juniors) are Wagga based, because they have to be for work, and going to Northern riverina is not an option for them travel wise. Same for their NETBALL.Have a think about it before you go solving the problems of the world.:mad:

well said!!!
 
Can i just say your in alot of trouble if you think mortimer and shane gow are going to make a big differemce to gully being competitive. Both would be just average players at best in the rfl and thats putting it politely.
couldnt agree more putt putt both are living off their family names which makes it a real shame that the mortimer family is better known for rugby league
 
Have you been to a Hume League game? The family friendly atmosphere in this competition would allow The Rock juniors to flourish. I think you'll find actually the Hume League knocked back The Rock unamimously.

I agree also that Gullie should develop their juniors. But it's a bit rich coming from your club. Although it is at an all time level, how many Wagga Tigers juniors are in your first grade side...? Hmm you heard about rocks in glass houses?

been to many!!! and ill think you would find that the rock were in the hume league and would have been on appeal anyway! then decided against it as all there juniors would have come to wagga juniors as a break away club

in wagga tigers 1st grade squad that have played more than three first grade games this year there would be 12 tigers juniors then a few more that have come through the 18's so not that rich really???
 
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